oooh
i came across this http://www.sugarsugar.com/blog/
its gooood





oooh
i came across this http://www.sugarsugar.com/blog/
its gooood
QFT. Having SD's ended up being much more work than working in a SC. What makes it even more difficult is that the transactions are much less clear than at the SC. So you might spend a lot of time with the person and not actually get any money from it.
Took me about a month to burn out.





^ thats exactly what i was wondering about today. do you just hang out with them and expect them to give you what they think is a reasonable amount of money /gifts that might never turn up? i dont want to date losers for free.
im still skirting around this SD issue. im not meeting up with anyone unless im clear how its gonna run
^ I posted the SD thread on the first page of this one. Read through all of it!!





its probably an art in itself getting the money out instead of free dates. kinda like sitting with a custy in the SC who has no intention of buying dances
^ i read through most of it! its 19 pages....... ima digest it slow




See, I don't get this either. The site is called "seeking arrangement" or "sugar daddy for me" or whatever. Its all about those arrangements.
Any girls you are talking to on the site are telling you they like you because its strategic. If they just wanted to meet a nice guy, they would go to Okcupid or match. Now, you seem an affable enough fellow, and have proven success. So whatever works for you, fine.
But its just as annoying to be on a site like that and have everyone looking for traditional dating, as having the guys looking for cheap hookers.
Honestly, I think those sites are crap. Ladies, you are giving men way too much control here. They are waving that carrot in front of your faces and you come scrambling. At least in the SC the transaction is clear.
I had one guy that was great, but there was sex involved, which is fine with me. Tried another who was awful. Never again.
Thanks for the props, and I totally see your point. Although I can't speak on the motivations of those women looking for an actual "arrangement". The ones I've had relationships with from these sites have told me that guys they meet in the bars and on sites like OkC are immature, unmotivated and not very established. So they're looking for higher quality. And they appreciate that I'm not the typical balding, overweight and often married guy on the SD sites just looking to trade $$$ for sex.





Ummm excuse Me? "Nothing"? Why is it that when it comes to money suddenly a girl isnt worth anything unless she's on her back with her legs in the air and nothing else counts. I am intelligent, funny, opinionated, I give hours and hours of entertainment, THAT'S what I want to give instead of sex. Jeezus. Nothing, my ass...
^ DJoser had a great retort after that guy posted.





Ya I saw that after I posted, I was too pissed off to keep reading.
^Lol, that happens to me too!![]()



I opted not to reply to the other guy, since I didn't really care, but since you quoted me...Did I say anything about providing sex? No. My original response was to someone who wished for a SD that only wanted company. Wouldn't everyone love to receive money in exchange for being taken out? I find the concept of expecting money for "providing hours of entertainment" (aka hanging out) to be ridiculous. Calling it "very hard work" is laughable.
I'm not saying there shouldn't be SDs or you shouldn't go seek one or whatever. Do whatever you want.




There's validity in both of these. In my opinion it would really come down to a case by case basis.
At the end of the day though... This isn't backbreaking labor in the sun. Nor is it sitting by the pool counting the hundreds. To pretend that it is either/or is laughable.




^I can imagine...




lol. if you don't think it's real work, there's no convincing you. if you don't want to spend money, don't. it's that easy. if someone else wants to spend his, well, tough shit. deal with it. different people value different things.
when i go out to eat, i tip over 20% just to be given my food and left alone. other people expect a server to come back over and over again to kiss their ass and listen to their bs stories, then only tip 10% because it's not really work. pretending that listening to someone's bullshit isn't hard work IS the hard work.
people who are generous usually just like being generous. they don't think about life the same way stingy jerks do.
-love everyone but keep them far from your soul-




I just recently signed up for a SD website and I'm a little nervous because nobody knows that I dance and I sure as hell don't want people knowing I'm on a SD website but I posted a pic of my face anyway because I don't think I would get too many hits otherwise.
so far so good thoug![]()




update: I got a ton of responses. plenty to weed through as I figured. some weird things ("I'll pay you to do a rape fantasy with me") and of course guys not looking to pay for dates but also a bunch of serious offers





i got a reply from a somewhat decent sounding guy who wants to fly me up to the gold coast to hang out.
but i dont know id rather get to know them home base before i commit to travelling someone who could turn out to be a psycho. i think ill just wait till he comes to sydney.
i figured some blue's opinion is not worth listening to in this case, theyre the one in the SC who will waste your time to chat for hours then try and huste you home for $100.




seriously try to find something a little more local or ask up front how much he'll pay you and ALWAYS get the cash up front. I had one of my regulars totally BS me into going out for coffee, he said he'd give me 50 bucks to go out for half an hour before work and he didn't even give me the 50 dollars. I asked for it after and he was like "oh shoot can I give it to you at the club?" and he never did. I was LIVID about that. I can't imagine flying out somewhere to waste time and not make any money.
plus don't you think it's a little weird that he wants you to fly so far away from your home? tell him you would be comfortable meeting him close by
And the man gets what again from such an arrangement? There's no lack of very good looking women who are more then happy to have such a set up with a wealthy guy willing to pay for such things, but what he gets out of all that is you on his arm for social events? You would have to be a true 10, have a PHD in physics (bio physics preferred...), and a JD, and be an amazing conversationalist for it to approach worth the type of $$$ you are talking about, for no sex at all.
You are asking for an awful lot from some man in exchange for not very much frankly, if one is looking at it from a strictly $$$ for services type set up.
A high end escort service could supply great looking arm candy all day long.
I have some very wealthy friends in FL who are not great looking, a tad older, and either too busy or not interested in commitments, who have such arrangements, and I have noticed they seemed to "supplement" the sex with others if they had one they enjoyed that didn't include sex. One friend introduced me to his non sex "friend" and she was stunning beyond belief, had an MD from a top school, was owned several clinics in the southern FL area, but he's a fun guy to hang out with and worth hundred million + easy, and she was married oddly enough.
It's all good to me if it works for them, and it seemed to, but he still had to get his sex some place, and he does.
I think you're being unrealistic, but I don't know what you look like, what you have to offer, etc, etc for what amounts to a very expensive date you know will not end with any sex.
I don't go on dates expecting anything at all, but I also don't pay for people's rent, school, etc,
Just a male POV. Good luck.![]()
A cunning linguist...
I'd advise you, and other people with like-minded POV's, to stay out of this thread. As I've said before, the SD issue is very different from escorting and whatnot. There really are guys out there who are willing to pay for a beautiful woman's company/conversation. Yes, even without sex and without a PhD in biophysics and without being a "10".
I would know--I've met them (as have many women on this board). They aren't super common, but they are definitely, definitely out there.
So anyone with no helpful information who merely wishes to criticize women looking for SD's can keep their thoughts to themselves.
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