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    Hey its been almost 3 weeks strippin experience almost.I have some issues with my customers which i dont know how to find a solution or react.Almost every shift i have to handle those things.

    # Customers want me to get a converstation with them which is cool. They ask do i have bf? i say no hunney .

    #Even we have a good chit chat i ask for dance they say another time or later. ITS OK . when i am ready to move for another customer they either grab my hand and make me wanna stay or they tell me nobody is gonna buy any dances anymore noone has money.

    #They wanna take my time and after a while they say :go make your money?? Which is annoyin me a lot.

    #They only buy one dance or tip couple dolars at stage still they ask me to sit with them very long time.

    # They ask about my number or take out when i say no i dont do that they stop buyin more dances .

    #They wanna date with me or have a dinner but no they dont wanna buy dances which dinner or date is not gonna pay my bills.

    #I have a regular he keep askin about my number and he offers money for sex out of club which i dont want him but i dont wanna lose my money either.

    #Some guys show their money or they mention they have money but they dont wanna buy dances or they only buy one and they tell me i should hang out with them they would pay me more

    #Guys regularly want hang out with me after my shift

    I am gonna be crazy how other girls can handle those creppy customers and still make money? DO they give fake numbers? do they go out with them? What do they do ? mostly customers have an expectetion and no i m married and i just wanna make my money and go home.

    Couple time i gave fake numbers to my customers because i did not wanna lose money. Still i am not sure it was a smart move or not? Give me some tips girls what do u do?
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    tell guys you have a boyfriend.

    when I started dancing I thought if I told guys I was single, I would make more money, but instead they just wanted to take me out on dates and hang out after work.

    I haven't lost any money saying I have a boyfriend. if a guy asks if you have a boyfriend, that means you're his type. if you say you have one, he'll get a lap dance with you anyway because that's the best he'll be able to get.

    I told one of my regulars right away that I had a boyfriend when he asked me and he comes in every week to do a champagne room with me and then leaves. if I had told him I was single, he would probably be begging me for my phone number and to go out on a date with me.

    from my experience, telling men you have a boyfriend makes you more desirable because you're unattainable.

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    My regular is married hunney and i gave him fake number first, i did not know he was gonna be my regular. than second time he found me again . he comes 3 times a week and finally he asked me whats wrong with me and i told him i am married which is true and no we cant hang out we cant meet out of club etc. Right now he is more comfotable he tells me we both married and better we should have some fun.... it did not work for my regular but definatly i ll try for another customer that bf thing. i hope it works still thinkin about my regular what to do with him.

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    oh you're married? I didn't know that. do you have a wedding ring you can wear? I know a girl who wears her wedding ring to work and she banks

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    lol siriously hahahah thats funny i have a wedding ring my manager knows i m married he told me i should not wear my wedding ring at work

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    I don't know. it seems like the girl at my club does well every single night and customers appreciate the fact that she's honest about being married.

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    I have the same problem as you! I thought maybe I was being too nice, or not playing the "fantasy" right, I can't figure it out either. I don't want these guys to think of me as potential girlfriend material so they'll spend the money instead of wasting my time trying to take me out!

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    I don't answer the relationship status question... it's not good for your money. If you are unavailable some guys will lose interest or refuse to buy because you are "taken". If you say you are single they want to date, which is no good. Just tell them that you don't share your status... leave it a mystery. If they ask why tell them exactly what I told you.

    Don't let guys drag on the conversation. You should be trying to close your sales within three songs. If they aren't going for it say "It was great talking to you, I have to get back to work now".

    As for giving out your number, check local laws. If it is legal for you to give out your number then get a second pre-paid phone or a second phone number that rings to your real number (such as Google Voice).

    On the guys wanting to have sex, just tell them "I'm not that type of girl, besides - if I were willing to do that then I'd probably be doing it with all the customers... & no guy wants to think he isn't special", then just give him a wink of the eye & walk off.
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    Don't let a customer stop you from leaving. Gently move his hand if he tries to hold you back, or wiggle out of his grip if he grabs yours, smile, remind him that you're at work, and say you'll come back to say hi later. If you really think there's a chance he'll spend money on you, DO go back and try and hustle a dance out of him. But in all likelihood, customers who say nobody is going to buy dances are just there for a free show and to try and get free company from girls who don't know any better. Not worth your time. Just leave them once you realize you're not getting anything out of them, and move on to the next customer. As a general, I sit around and talk for 2-3 songs and then ask if they want a dance - you should always be the one in control of the conversation. You need to learn to be a bit aggressive and stand up for yourself in this industry. Don't take their shit.

    I find that customers who heckle you for dates/your number aren't worth it. Some girls don't mind the headache because they can string them along and turn them into regulars, but I just politely tell them I don't do that and go on my merry way. It's up to you to decide how much you're willing to put up with.

    If you get a customer who you made a nice amount of money off of, and you think it's likely that he'll come back to the club for more dances, then I recommend either getting his email address so you can let him know next time you'll be in the club, or giving him yours (a real but stripper one that you only use for customers and doesn't have your real name attached to it) so he can tell you next time he'll be in the club.

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    Don't feel bad about leaving non-paying customers!
    When customers who aren't spending a lot or no money ask me to stay I say very nicely "Honey, I'm at work, time is money, you understand right?" They always say yes. You can always throw in "If you change your mind, let me know, I'd love to have some one on one time later."

    As far as phone numbers go, check out Google Voice. It gives you a non-traceable number and voicemail...you can give the custies your google voice number and it forwards the calls to your phone without the custy knowing your real number. It's great because they can let you know when they are coming in but without giving out your real number (like I did a couple weeks ago and I've been pestered to death by a regular. sigh.).
    When customers ask me to hang out after work, I tell them I have a day job and I must go home and get some rest. Act like you want to BUT DON'T!

    Remember: you owe these people NOTHING. They are supposed to be paying for YOUR precious time.

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    my number one advice is: don't ever feel guilty! as women, we are trained to feel guilty when we say "no" to a man for any reason, whether it's no for a date, no to a phone number, no to a date, don't ever feel bad about doing that. if you feel that a guy doesn't have enough money or that he isn't going to spend his money on you, don't feel bad about walking away and talking to somebody else. it's him that should feel bad for not spending $$ or expecting too much from a beautiful girl such as yourself.

    Customers want me to get a converstation with them which is cool. They ask do i have bf? i say no hunney .
    I always tell them that I'm single or that I got out of a long relationship and it's going to be a while before I date again.

    #Even we have a good chit chat i ask for dance they say another time or later. if a custy says "maybe later" to me, i give him a big hug and tell him that i have to "get back to working" but that i will be around for when he does want a dance. i tell him to go find me when he is ready for one.

    when i am ready to move for another customer they either grab my hand and make me wanna stay or they tell me nobody is gonna buy any dances anymore noone has money.
    that's not cool. i've never had that happen to me. if they are being rude or grabby, i would tell them that i have to go to the dressing room to freshen up and if they want a dance, THEN, talk to me, but only if they are ready for a dance.

    They wanna take my time and after a while they say :go make your money?? Which is annoyin me a lot.
    this is somebody that doesn't have any money but wants to talk to you for free. tell them to get ahold of you when they want to spend money. don't come back to them and talk to them for free - at least that's what i would do.

    They only buy one dance or tip couple dolars at stage still they ask me to sit with them very long time.
    once again, tell them that you have to: (go back to work, fix your hair, make a phone call in the dressing room, etc.) don't let a man waste your time for free.

    They ask about my number or take out when i say no i dont do that they stop buyin more dances .
    this is what i say when a new custy asks me this "im not comfortable giving out my phone number, especially since i just met you. im having such a great time with you however and would love to get to know you better. come back and see me next week so we can get to know each other a little more." keep doing that each time they come in until they either stop coming in or you are comfortable enough to give them your work number. either give them the phone number of the club you work in or have a separate phone just for business calls (a lof of the girls i work with do this)

    They wanna date with me or have a dinner but no they dont wanna buy dances which dinner or date is not gonna pay my bills.
    option A: if they don't want to spend money w/o a date and you are not comfortable with, move on and find another customer. don't worry about this one anymore.
    option B: if you are comfortable with having dinner with a customer, do it only for $$ and tell them how much upfront. go to a restaurant where you feel comfortable and tell them that you can only spend a couple of hrs with him and then you have to go home.

    I have a regular he keep askin about my number and he offers money for sex out of club which i dont want him but i dont wanna lose my money either.
    tell him you're not comfortable with that but that he can continue seeing you at the club. tell him that you have to get to know him better. there are so many excuses for this one.

    Some guys show their money or they mention they have money but they dont wanna buy dances or they only buy one and they tell me i should hang out with them they would pay me more
    this is a sign of someone cheap. guys that flash their money usually dont spend it. customers with a lot of money that they intend to spend usually never flash it or tell you about it (especially with pretenses) - they just give it to you, simple as that.

    Guys regularly want hang out with me after my shift
    dont feel guilty just tell them youre not comfortable with that and that you want to get to know them better and want to see them again in the club.

    anyways, hope this advice helps you out
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    I made so much MORE money when I wore my ring and told guys I was married than I do now that I'm single!

    Much of your frustration comes from your mindset. This is a SALES job...not a dancing job. The purpose of the conversation is to lead the customer towards the close. If you allow HIM to dominate the conversation...he won. It's YOUR job to dominate the conversation and always lead it back towards lapdances.

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    Hi, first post....

    I admit to being married and say "I have an open minded husband" *smile suggestively* "after all he lets me dance/ encourages me to enjoy myself" *wink*

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    Thank u ladies... still i really dont know what to do...Today was a weird day i had a customer he was a black guy from KUWAIT.We had a nice converstation and he was ready for lap dance. We were waitin for next song to begin than converstation end up about our religions. As soon as he learnt i am muslim he did not wanna buy dances from me He asked me how much do i make for a night i said 200 $ which it is true for slow nights...he gave me 200 $ and wanted me too leave to club. He did not want me to work at to club. Because i am muslim he was too he felt very bad about me...he did not want to buy dances from me...he said he should help me because we are both muslim. siriously work becomin more drama.. even he told me he can take care of mee... soooo weird. Lesson learnt i m not gonna tell anythin about my religion ...even customer guess right about it. Its so hard to hide while i am from middle east...

    Anyways again it was same 90% guys wanted to date with me.... which is boring... my stage show sucks... i collected stage tips less and less... i feel depressed. Especially today nobody was noticing about me i was invisible maybe... normally as soon as i walk people would stare me or try to talk today nobody even bothered.... what "s wronnnnng!
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    ^^^ While it could depend on what type of Muslim he is, in that religion there are certainly other options that probably came to mind for him. I would avoid telling them your religion.
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    Our customers are mostly military guys who mostly deployed in my country Turkey. As soon as i tell people where i am from they figure out my religion otomaticly.I look like latino ..damn i wish i could speak little bit spanish...I should hide my religion status too... i should say i m jewish...i cant tell i am christian i dont know anythin about it.

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    Religion and politics are a no-no topic for me. This stuff doesn't go together with strip clubs. Just tell them you're an atheist. Simple.

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    makes sense ! But i am too newbie its hard too control converstation especially when people tell me ... u are Turkish so u are muslim too arent u? i ll figure out an excuse and skip the answer next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by missplayful View Post
    makes sense ! But i am too newbie its hard too control converstation especially when people tell me ... u are Turkish so u are muslim too arent u? i ll figure out an excuse and skip the answer next time
    Are you living in the United States? If so, you don't HAVE to be anything. You can tell them you are looking at new religions (thinking of converting), that you are Atheist (don't believe in God(s)) or Agnostic (question the existence of God(s)). If you become set on any one religion with customers they can usually find some way to pick you apart, so just don't even give them the chance.
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    Such a good idea)) i live in NC ... I WORK very close to military base)) thank u for great advise! that will fit for any customer! yey!

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    yes, don't be afraid to dominate the conversation and steer it into which ever way you need.

    remember: Always Be Closing! try to steer the conversation towards something sexy, so you can ask them for a lap dance.

    if they ask an uncomfortable question, laugh it off, say "lets talk about that AFTER we have some fun",or "lets talk about that in VIP while i give u a dance" etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfect View Post
    Religion and politics are a no-no topic for me. This stuff doesn't go together with strip clubs. Just tell them you're an atheist. Simple.

    I dont know about that... I think then they would want to know why you were an atheist and talk about their beliefs

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    when people ask me what my ethniticity is i always tell them "american"
    if they make comments suggesting you're muslim, make some joke like "what gave it away? i have too much clothing on?" then offer to take it off for him.
    or you could do the cutesy flirty thing and say "i thought you're never supposed to bring up religion, politics, or quantum physics on the first date"
    a line i find myself saying a bit is "well that's mighty presumptuous of you"
    (mostly after they imply that i'm hooker) don't let them offend you, just turn it into a joke and have a laugh about it. hopefully he'll appreciate you're sense of humor. the last thing he wants is a lecture on geography, history, religion, his manners etc.
    actually, addressing the whole chit-chat aspect, i have never been to a quite strip club- they keep the music so loud in there to keep our mouths shut and bodies moving not so we have to keep saying what huh and repeating ourselves all night. that being said you have to determine what kind of customer you're sitting with. if it's a man that is maybe just lonely and wants the company suggest he bring you to vip because it's a lot quieter there and you can get to know each other much more intimately' usually an older gentleman who will likely have the money to keep spending and if not find one will. if you think that you're in a deadend conversation talking about you, him, the weather, the football team, his kids, what you watched on tv last night and what you're planning to eat for breakfast and he hasn't coughed up a dime do you really think he's going to go home and reflect on the wonderful conversation yall had? and would you really want him to come back expecting such a lovely evening again with you for free? while having great social skills is a MUST for this job what these guys come in there for is a GOOD TIME. this however means different things to different people. while you are introducing yourselves ask him what brought him in there tonight? tell him you're new and ask him if he's ever gotten a lap dance before and when he says yes ask him would he help you learn what you could be doing better? ask him what he liked about his last dance and if you could practice the same moves on him? tell him you're a virgin and he could be your first "professional lap dance". maybe ask him to get one of the other dancers to give you a dance first so you can see how they're done then he should get one from you to see what you've learned. guys like a little girl-on-girl action. as far as sharing you're phone # you can give them the number of the club, you can say that you never ever give your # out but you can take his business card. once you have his card, tuck it away in your garter and then challenge him to "make you're night" tell him he needs to set himself apart from all the other boys. tell him that the more fun yall have that night IN the club that you would seriously CONSIDER calling him. guys like the challenge so hopefully he'll step up. of course if he doesn't then you just throw the card away. however if he does spend alot of $$$ the best thing about the card is you can write on the back stuff about him so if he does become a regular it will be easier to remember with a little cheat sheet. also a business card is best because you can find out what company he works for and you have his first and last name. you are however in no way ever obligated to call. if he does comeback and is upset you didn't contact him just lie - you lost it, forgot it in your locker, phone got cut off, dog ate it whatever. OR you could make another game for them saying that if they want you number so bad you would give them 1 number at a time, area code first, for every dance they buy or 1 per visit. tell them you're not really supposed to or you're not comfortable giving it to strangers but after that much time together you wouldn't be strangers anymore. then you give them the number as they hand your $. of course you could get tricky and give them the right numbers but just not in the right order.
    as for the wedding rings at work, most of the time it was a non-issue. for the few guys that refused to get a dance, they're the guys that want extras or otc and in my opinion it was worth the 20$ i lost. i did have one customer who i told that i wore my rings "psychology 101" he said that was a smart move but i never revealed if i was married or not. it's all trickery in there. if you don't plan on ever seeing them out of the club who cares right? you pick a stage name because you're playing a role. you don't need them to know everything about you and vice versa. answer their question with a question.
    there is a reason each came to a strip club that night when there are plenty of other options of adult entertainment. free internet porn, magazines, 900 numbers, craigslist etc. i don't think they're there for the overpriced alcohol either.
    one final piece of advice is always remember, it's not what you say but how you say it.

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    Tipthestripper thank u for great advises but i can not say i am American. Barely i look like hispanic but i m not people assume i am hispanic 90% ... I have very heavy accent and as soon as i talk people ask where am i from... even i tell hi how u doin r u havin fun tonite? people ask right away where am i from? My english level is only intermediate only i have been practisin last 2 years for english. There is no way somebody would believe i am American.They wont believe me. Thats why converstation turn arounds nationality things which easy to guess my religion. Thats ok mostly i use to tell people i am such a sexy muslim ever lol// and they liked it. But that customer absolutly did not like it because he was muslim too. Whatever he thinks i am such a horrible muslim ever and WTF was he doin at the strip clubs with full of half naked chics ... This makes him horrible muslim and not acceptable muslim too. He admit it he should not be at SC either.Whatever i charged him 200$ and left the club that day... He is the only one who did not like it not important too much. if other customers assume i m muslim i figure out a lie ...

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    well you could just say you're european or asian or just give them the vaguest info about you and tell them you are new to this country and you don't have places like the SC where you are from but you're so excited about being there he should get a dance to "see if you're doing it right yet?" and also since you have such a thick accent you can just tell him you don't understand. be real cute and try to get them to feel like they're helping you out in this new country. tell them your manager warned you about how dangerous it is to go home with the customers so that makes you really nervous but tell him how you think he's such a nice wonderful guy because you don't want him to think that it is you who thinks he dangerous. and like i said before, generally you do not care about what they think as long as they are giving you their money so you can lie lie lie. if he offers to be your personal tour guide to help you around town just say you appreciate his offer but you are so busy between work and classes right now you barely have time for sleep. tell them you are trying to save up for a house and things are soooo much more expensive here than you thought or tell him you're trying to save up enough money to buy a plane ticket back home because you miss your family friends etc. that will also give him the opportunity to help you meet your financial goal or if he's not spending tell him how important it is that you make the money you need for that so you must really get back to work.

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