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    you sound like a really sweet person that tries to be genuine and give honest answers to stupid questions, and the customers are just pulling all the shit they know only works on new girls.

    i used to be this way and lost a lot of dough. i always got told not to let the business change me, then i realized that what they mean is "dont ever become a real hustler, and make any serious money."

    what you need to do is find a different person inside you, to be while you are at work. so you aren't your sweet self, you are a money-grubbin stripper just like you're supposed to be. smile and be friendly but dont sit down next to guys who just want to waste time and ask questions, and if you do learn to get up and leave quickly.

    it seems so rude, it goes against everything we are taught - but time is important. always smile, don't look mad like you lost something, smile secretly like you know something they don't.

    i learned to interrupt them, and walk away while they are still talking. SO RUDE, but so NECESSARY!!

    "so would you like a private dance?"
    "no honey but i --"
    "okay great well have fun, enjoy the show, i'll come and bug you later!"
    SMILING SMILING the whole time- not bummed cause of no sale.
    HAPPY to escape a time-waster!!!!!

    if they keep talking, KEEP WALKING!!!! time waster!

    if they grab your hand, swat it and say "no no!" like a bad puppy that peed.

    if they start to pull out their wallet and say wait wait i want a dance, put on the brakes. (but that won't happen with a time waster) they will shake their hand, and wave their hand, like there she goes.

    and watch, once you leave, some other dumb girl will go up and sit and have the same story told to her. watch how long she stays, while you're getting $$$$$

    you'll learn good luck girl!
    "I'm teaching fools some basic rules. / I believe in the Golden Rule. The man with the gold rules. / I made a little money.
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    threadjack: tipthestripper, are you who i think you are? do you work in a club in northern idaho? PM me hon.

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    Default Re: newbie havin issues with [email protected]!

    some of these things will eventually fall into place with experience. after a year i have stock answers rolling off my tongue to every single answer.

    advice:

    see what you can get away with
    dont let them take advantage of you
    they know youre new so they try manipulate you the most, be wary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickdreams View Post
    I dont know about that... I think then they would want to know why you were an atheist and talk about their beliefs
    Okay, that's fair enough. I've had discussions about being an atheist with customers but that has only happened when I've given up hustling and not even intending to lead the conversation towards a private dance. It's just an unsexy topic and I don't think it should be discussed unless you're already in the VIP or just don't care if the guy is actually going to spend any money on you. Then again, he might love your beliefs and views and actually give you some $$ for that, but that's pretty rare. I'm just relying on my own experience, maybe it works for other girls, but it's definetly not for me.

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    Fucked up today...i feel like a shit... i had a co-worker asian chic made 300 $ from a guy only for lap dance...She gave me some advises and poorly i listened... she told me i should not ask for customer that"do u wanna get another dance"i should just keep go untill customer stops or notice. I definatly tried because it was succeded for her.I gave a customer 2 lap dances and he only paid 25$ he said he did not have money. i asked for credit card or atm card he said he did not have money... and we all fighted .. he had a friend his friend was gonna pay for him but he did not let him pay because he blames me i did not give him notification that he could stop...i told manager... and i talked with bouncer... it ended up with not chargin more money because amount was small.. we forgot about it.... i am pissed of... should i keep chargin from people without no notice which i tried and fucked up... or always give notifications and keep dance??? which one is better?


    And another girl made 380 dollar she was a newbie too i only made... 260$ she told me she doesnt hussle people grab her hand and ask for dances.... whats wrong with me why i could not make money like her or nobody asked for me((( i feel like a ugly duck

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    Quote Originally Posted by missplayful View Post
    Fucked up today...i feel like a shit... i had a co-worker asian chic made 300 $ from a guy only for lap dance...She gave me some advises and poorly i listened... she told me i should not ask for customer that"do u wanna get another dance"i should just keep go untill customer stops or notice. I definatly tried because it was succeded for her.I gave a customer 2 lap dances and he only paid 25$ he said he did not have money. i asked for credit card or atm card he said he did not have money... and we all fighted .. he had a friend his friend was gonna pay for him but he did not let him pay because he blames me i did not give him notification that he could stop...i told manager... and i talked with bouncer... it ended up with not chargin more money because amount was small.. we forgot about it.... i am pissed of... should i keep chargin from people without no notice which i tried and fucked up... or always give notifications and keep dance??? which one is better?


    And another girl made 380 dollar she was a newbie too i only made... 260$ she told me she doesnt hussle people grab her hand and ask for dances.... whats wrong with me why i could not make money like her or nobody asked for me((( i feel like a ugly duck
    After being ripped off in the past, having to deal w/ pissed off/confused/idiotic customers, etc., I now usually make a mention of when one song changes to the next. You will save yourself a LOT of stress and problems this way, believe me. The obvious exceptions: when you KNOW the customer, he's a good regular or gets dances from you occasionally, knows the deal about strip clubs and that he's getting charged PER SONG, tends to "cut himself off" after the number of songs appropriate to how much money he has (or is willing to spend), is known to be very wealthy (money isn't an issue for him), etc. If I don't know the guy, I let him know specifically that it is $30 PER SONG (not "per dance", surprisingly there are guys who don't know what that means, or act like they dont know). When the song changes over I might whisper "More?" or "?Mas?" (Spanish) or "One more." (as a statement, not a question) or "Let's do 4, to make it even". Sometimes a guy will tell you beforehand that he only has x amount of $, or you will see him pulling crumpled bills outta his wallet to try to scratch together enough cash to get a dance or 2 from you. I tell him I'll let him know when we've done 1 (or 2 or whatever) songs, and that if he wants to keep going we can keep going and he can just pull $$ outta the ATM afterward or use his credit card. I want him to feel at ease, like I'm not gonna rip him off, but to keep it in his mind that yes, if he wants to keep going w/ the dances we can do that uninterrupted and worry about the money stuff later.

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    hey hun, you sound like a really sweet girl. you sound like me a couple years ago when i started. i used to waste time and have long conversations with customers for 1-2 dances. remember that it doesn't matter what they think of you. try to be nice but firm and make your way around the room quickly. "hi, how are you? what's your name? nice to meet you! i'm ____. where are you from? oh cool, i'm from ___! gosh, i'm freezing!! let's go have a dance and warm me up!" this usually takes me only a couple minutes if even to get through this conversation. half the time i don't even listen, because conversations with sc patrons drain my wellbeing.

    no one thinks im rude, because i always smile, laugh, and just seem happy. this is definitely a numbers game and to me, it's a race against the clock. i pay out a total of about 100 bucks for dj, house mom and housefee, so i need to maximize my profit. try the lineup i gave you. if 1 out of 5 guys says yes, it's still a quick sale, and when other guys see you dancing for other men and constantly being busy, they will want you even more. always make yourself look busy. if you're not doing well, run to the dressing room, freshen up, have some water.. whatever you need to regroup. then get back on the floor and ask EVERY person you can for a dance.

    if he says no, i quickly say "aww that's ok (with a smile). why don't you relax for a bit, and if youd like a dance later come find me."

    if he says "i'm waiting for someone" i say, "what a lucky girl. have fun and find me when you're done"

    by the end of the night you should have guys waiting for you to approach them. you're a beautiful girl. i never talk about politics or religion. those are two of the most controversial things you can ever talk about. i always look for similar points of interest or things we agree on. i say that i do not follow religion or politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britneyireland View Post
    I made so much MORE money when I wore my ring and told guys I was married than I do now that I'm single!

    Much of your frustration comes from your mindset. This is a SALES job...not a dancing job. The purpose of the conversation is to lead the customer towards the close. If you allow HIM to dominate the conversation...he won. It's YOUR job to dominate the conversation and always lead it back towards lapdances.

    I wrote a bunch of Stripper School articles on this topic

    That's funny, so did I.. You copied one of my articles word for word. guess you couldn't get creative enough to write your own article. You can see the original at http://exoticdancerguide.webs.com/ar...dancerbag.html
    and your copied version here: http://ezinearticles.com/?What-Shoul...rk?&id=3740217
    where Ezine is paying you money for clicks. I wrote part of that article a few years ago where it became part of a sticky.

    and other articles...been online for a few years now, and I'm always on the lookout to make sure that others (like you) aren't copying my articles & making money on them too.


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    we ALL have issues with customers.
    you sound just like me when I just started dancing. what works for me is to avoid/redirect the conversation to something light and sexy. My answers have always been that I'm single, which makes my job super fun... then i'll say something like let's go get naked and see how much you can turn me on.

    phone number? I'll ask them if they wanted to buy me one, lol. smile and be flirty, it'll make them laugh. or i would take their phone and tell them to call me anytime while walking towards the dance area. I'm goofy and comes up with all sorts of crazy stuff to say, otherwise Ill be bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missplayful View Post
    # Customers want me to get a converstation with them which is cool. They ask do i have bf? i say no hunney .
    I usually tell them that I'm "recently single" or I "just got out of a bad relationship." It usually shuts them up, but if they start insisting that I take their number or meet them OTC, I make it perfectly clear that I need to get to know them better HERE at the club FIRST.

    #Even we have a good chit chat i ask for dance they say another time or later. ITS OK . when i am ready to move for another customer they either grab my hand and make me wanna stay or they tell me nobody is gonna buy any dances anymore noone has money.
    Try not to spend more than a song or two of your time with any one customer. When you find out they're not going to spend $$ on you, it's time to make up an excuse and walk away. Some good excuses include "I have to use the ladies room." "I need to get some water, I'm parched!" "I have to run to the dressing room and freshen up." "I have to check with the DJ to find out when I'm on stage again." If they grab your hand say, "Don't worry, sweetie, I'll come back and visit again." (But ONLY come back if you think they may spend money on you later.)

    #They wanna take my time and after a while they say :go make your money?? Which is annoyin me a lot.
    They're basically flat out telling you that they have no intention of spending $$ on you and you should go hustle someone else. If you played everything right, you shouldn't have wasted more than one song of your time on this guy so try not to let spoil your mood.

    #They only buy one dance or tip couple dolars at stage still they ask me to sit with them very long time.
    I get so annoyed by guys who spend like $20 tops on me and think that's enough to purchase an hour of my time. Let them know what an hour of your time REALLY costs, then, when they tell you that's too much, simple tell them "I'm worth every penny." and WALK AWAY.

    # They ask about my number or take out when i say no i dont do that they stop buyin more dances .
    When guys want my number I say "I'd like to get to know you a little better first," and then I hustle them for a dance. If they refuse my dances and insist on my number, I tell them "I'll think about it," and leave. More often than not, the guys who REALLY want my number are the same guys who DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY ON ME AT ALL. I don't waste my time with them.
    However, when a guy who's spending lots of money on me wants my number, I tell him "I can't give it to you, it's the law... BUT I could take YOUR number if you write it on a napkin and hand it to me discreetly..." (this is fun, because it's like we've got a dirty secret between us.) But I never call anyone-- because I'm a MARRIED woman.

    #They wanna date with me or have a dinner but no they dont wanna buy dances which dinner or date is not gonna pay my bills.
    So TELL THEM, "Dinner doesn't PAY MY BILLS." These guys need to understand that you're WORKING here, not seeking out potential boyfriends.

    #I have a regular he keep askin about my number and he offers money for sex out of club which i dont want him but i dont wanna lose my money either.
    It's nice to have a regular... but one who keeps pressuring you to do things you don't want to do I really don't feel is worth it. I say, put up with it for as long as you can stand and make as much money off him as you can, then END IT.

    #Some guys show their money or they mention they have money but they dont wanna buy dances or they only buy one and they tell me i should hang out with them they would pay me more
    If they wanna pay you to hang out with them, set your price, GET THE MONEY FIRST, THEN hang out with them.

    I think that about covers everything...
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    Quote Originally Posted by missplayful View Post
    Fucked up today...i feel like a shit... i had a co-worker asian chic made 300 $ from a guy only for lap dance...She gave me some advises and poorly i listened... she told me i should not ask for customer that"do u wanna get another dance"i should just keep go untill customer stops or notice. I definatly tried because it was succeded for her.I gave a customer 2 lap dances and he only paid 25$ he said he did not have money. i asked for credit card or atm card he said he did not have money... and we all fighted .. he had a friend his friend was gonna pay for him but he did not let him pay because he blames me i did not give him notification that he could stop...i told manager... and i talked with bouncer... it ended up with not chargin more money because amount was small.. we forgot about it.... i am pissed of... should i keep chargin from people without no notice which i tried and fucked up... or always give notifications and keep dance??? which one is better?


    And another girl made 380 dollar she was a newbie too i only made... 260$ she told me she doesnt hussle people grab her hand and ask for dances.... whats wrong with me why i could not make money like her or nobody asked for me((( i feel like a ugly duck
    I'm in agreement with everyone else about this one... you need to let him know when a song is over and ask him if he'd like another dance. If you don't you run the risk of getting ripped off or making the customer REALLY MAD.

    There's a sexy way to ask that works almost 90% of the time for me. Once the first dance is over, I get really close to him and gaze into his eyes or whisper into his ear "Shall I keep going?" The only time I've ever had a guy say no to that was when he just couldn't afford for me to keep going!
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    Thank u for whoever posts to my thread. Its been 4 months since i work at Strip club. Definatly i do not have problems which i mentioned it earlier. I do great job and know how to deal with people right now. I think only way to learn from mistakes is just experience some of them. Still i have anxiety when i talk with people i cant deny. I feel bad when guys turn me down because i am pretty makes me feel sad even though it doesnt happen too much i feel bad some ugly girls get dances easily and i spend time for my hair, make up and always wear nice outfits i go to floor perfect. However there is always some girls just wears old bra,horrible panties ,nasty make up never style their hair, smelss like a fish or missin tooth still they make money... i discovered my club is not so clean i do not do extras but still do good money i havent witnessed some girls doin extras but i heard a lot. Anyways i dont think thats not fear some guys prefer really bad lookin ones . Dances are based same price 20 $ why they would go get worst one instead of gettiin same price the best one at the club? I dont get it. When u go store if price is same who would like to get worst piece for same price? maybe i should stop spendin time for my look .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinn View Post
    That's funny, so did I.. You copied one of my articles word for word. guess you couldn't get creative enough to write your own article. You can see the original at http://exoticdancerguide.webs.com/ar...dancerbag.html
    and your copied version here: http://ezinearticles.com/?What-Shoul...rk?&id=3740217
    where Ezine is paying you money for clicks. I wrote part of that article a few years ago where it became part of a sticky.

    and other articles...been online for a few years now, and I'm always on the lookout to make sure that others (like you) aren't copying my articles & making money on them too.
    say it ain't so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by missplayful View Post
    Thank u for whoever posts to my thread. Its been 4 months since i work at Strip club. Definatly i do not have problems which i mentioned it earlier. I do great job and know how to deal with people right now. I think only way to learn from mistakes is just experience some of them. Still i have anxiety when i talk with people i cant deny. I feel bad when guys turn me down because i am pretty makes me feel sad even though it doesnt happen too much i feel bad some ugly girls get dances easily and i spend time for my hair, make up and always wear nice outfits i go to floor perfect. However there is always some girls just wears old bra,horrible panties ,nasty make up never style their hair, smelss like a fish or missin tooth still they make money... i discovered my club is not so clean i do not do extras but still do good money i havent witnessed some girls doin extras but i heard a lot. Anyways i dont think thats not fear some guys prefer really bad lookin ones . Dances are based same price 20 $ why they would go get worst one instead of gettiin same price the best one at the club? I dont get it. When u go store if price is same who would like to get worst piece for same price? maybe i should stop spendin time for my look .
    it's like i always say...."stripping is 95% people skills, 5% looks" meaning, you can be the hottest girl in the club and make no money but the ugly ducklings are making bank. why? because they are focused on making the customers feel good and WANT to spend money on THEM. then again, they could be doing extras. whatever it is, DONT WORRY ABOUT THE OTHER GIRLS AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE MAKING! Only focus on yourself, as if you're the only girl in the room and you have to make the best impression you can. Carry yourself with class and confidence, and always with a SMILE! The minute you start worrying about who's making what you lose your focus. I still struggle with this sometimes, and I've been doing it for 8 years.

    there are some really good threads on what to say and do with a customer on this board, you can get a lot of great ideas for conversation and flirty tips to use. i get the sense that you are a bit self-conscious about your ethnicity, but if you learn how to use it to your advantage and make them focus on the fact that you are EXOTIC and DIFFERENT they will be begging for more!!! you are beautiful, be the strong woman you are and embrace yourself and don't let these idiot guys try to take advantage of your time. it's not easy to learn how to hustle, it takes a lot of practice and making a lot of mistakes but you are determined, and determination and willingness to learn from your mistakes (as well as others mistakes) is half the battle!!

    good luck, honey!!! you're doing great!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addison View Post
    say it ain't so!
    It IS so! How embarrasing! heh..... Unfortunately, some dancers make their entire career out of copying others, and they get by with it, day by day. Creativity has to count for something, ya know?

    And yes, dancing is 95% hustle and 5% dancing. Its all in how you play the game and make your name on others shame so you can get that fame


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    You cant please everybody. I an a boring protestant and I get guys sometimes try to preach me the Bible, whatever dude.

    I would find a fun playful way to avoid religion completely. Try the line about not bringiing it up on the first date. Or, "Doen't matter, I'm gonna take you to paradise tonight!" or "No religion--I AM A GODDESS!" or "There is only one religion in a strip club--the cult of the Nudie Girl"

    There now. That should tide you over until you can think of some new lines.

    Just for curiosity, don't you ever get redneck weirdos accusing you of being a terrorist? Around here, that would be a much more common problem than a fellow muslim trying to save you from the club.


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    Something I have found is that the way you dress has a big impact on how guys treat you. If you dont like the kind of attention you are getting try a few different styles of outfits and costumes to get the right attention. Every city and club is different too - a classic example is the nurse costume, it was a huge hit every time in my first club, but has absolutely no impact in my current club. I find that bra and panties lingerie combo gets unwelcome attention, but babydolls, short dresses and little skirts get good attention. But its different for everyone. You have to play around with it.

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