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    Quote Originally Posted by firemaiden04 View Post
    I agree that Democrats are pussies, and they need to get their shit together and take a stand.

    But you know what? Starting January 1 of 2011, I once again get complete health, vision, and dental coverage from my Mom's insurance through her work. It used to be I could only get it through the age of 22 if I was in school full-time. Now, thanks to Obama's health care reform, I get total coverage again, and my taxes have been lower these past two years than they ever were when Bush was in office. So it really does make a difference, and this stuff really does effect people's lives.
    Hmmmm, wonder why my health care coverage is Higher?

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    My vote gets the Green Party a buck and a half in funding. Every little bit helps.

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    if you dont believe in the system and dont vote and think they are all evil, then i hope you never try to take advantage of things like medicare, medicaid, food stamps, WIC, social security, or any other gov't run benefit/assistance program.

    since those are all run by the system you so hate.

    As has been said in the past....by choosing not to choose, you still make a choice.

    one drop on a bucket might not count for much, but put thousands, or millions of them together and you get something significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    I vote because I want to be able to get an abortion if I ever get raped.

    Which, according to some candidates, shouldn't be an option.

    You know, silly stuff like that.
    I'm quoting myself.

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    As has been said in the past....by choosing not to choose, you still make a choice.

    one drop on a bucket might not count for much, but put thousands, or millions of them together and you get something significant.
    Yes. Yes. Yes. It also sickens me to think of all of the Democrats sitting at home wallowing in political apathy while the country goes to shit in the Republican majority.

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    ^^^ I don't think it's that black and white. You don't have to hate every aspect of the government or love every aspect. If you pay your taxes, you have a right to take advantage of the very programs you helped support when you need them, even if you don't feel there's any issues worth voting on in an election, even if you feel there is more integrity in not voting than choosing between the lesser of two evils. Voting isn't the only way of supporting your country and community, voting isn't the only way of being politically involved.
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    As Katherine Hepburn put it so eloquently " Nature is what we were put here to rise above"

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    Quote Originally Posted by YKnot View Post
    Hmmmm, wonder why my health care coverage is Higher?
    I think the reason hers has stayed the same price has more to do with the employer she's getting her health insurance through than any real healthcare reform. Most everyone's health insurance prices are rising, and will likely continue to.
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    Blergh. I should never have subscribed to a political thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    I'm quoting myself.



    Yes. Yes. Yes. It also sickens me to think of all of the Democrats sitting at home wallowing in political apathy while the country goes to shit in the Republican majority.

    The democrats have brought it upon themselves by being pussies who would rather just roll over to the republicans than actually fight to keep the campaign promises they've made. Just look at Biden, calling people "whiners" for criticising Obama for not living up to his promises. The people elected them based on certain promises, and when THEY don't live up to it, they blame us, the people who voted for them. Of course we are becoming apathetic when we elect candidates to do something and then have the blame thrown back at us when they continually cave at the first sign of having to fight for us, i.e., do the damn job we hired them to do.
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    As Katherine Hepburn put it so eloquently " Nature is what we were put here to rise above"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    The democrats have brought it upon themselves by being pussies who would rather just roll over to the republicans than actually fight to keep the campaign promises they've made. Just look at Biden, calling people "whiners" for criticising Obama for not living up to his promises. The people elected them based on certain promises, and when THEY don't live up to it, they blame us, the people who voted for them. Of course we are becoming apathetic when we elect candidates to do something and then have the blame thrown back at us when they continually cave at the first sign of having to fight for us, i.e., do the damn job we hired them to do.
    In response to this, I quote myself again.

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    Blergh. I should never have subscribed to a political thread.
    Aaaaand bow out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    I vote because I want to be able to get an abortion if I ever get raped.

    Which, according to some candidates, shouldn't be an option.

    You know, silly stuff like that.
    When Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle was asked about what a 13 year old girl who was raped by her father should do about her pregnancy, she said we should "err on the side of life" and talked about turning a lemon situation into lemonade.

    Republican Senate candidate Ken Buck also opposes allowing rape victims to get an abortion. As a prosecutor, he refused to prosecute a rape case because the victim was drunk and let the perpetrator in, even though the perpetrator admitted she said "no". Another reason why he refused to prosecute is because the victim allegedly had an abortion. (She said she had a miscarriage)

    What's scary is, both of these candidates came close to winning. This is why women, and rational people in general, need to vote.

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    the problem is that the US is a country of people who want instant results. instant gratification.

    obama has been president for less than a full 2yrs and they are pissed that he didnt wave a magic wand and turn the country into utopia.

    change happens over time, not overnight. I voted for him and still stand by him.

    then again, im someone who has not missed an election since i was 18, loves politics, is a liberal (though lean conservative fiscally), in law school, and think there are too many damn uninformed, stupid people out there voting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopaw View Post
    Perhaps.....but knowing that Athena has our backs makes me feel alot better should it ever occur .



    On the cali political front - we lost our ganja quest (booooooooooo!), but at least our dysfunctional state is still blue .
    Yes, I would definitely want Athena on my side, in the unlikely event a zombie apocalypse should occur. Unfortunately, right now the Republicans are a much bigger threat to our country than zombies.

    What's the difference between the captain of the Titanic and the Republican Party?

    The captain of the Titanic was trying to avoid the iceberg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    When Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle was asked about what a 13 year old girl who was raped by her father should do about her pregnancy, she said we should "err on the side of life" and talked about turning a lemon situation into lemonade.



    Republican Senate candidate Ken Buck also opposes allowing rape victims to get an abortion. As a prosecutor, he refused to prosecute a rape case because the victim was drunk and let the perpetrator in, even though the perpetrator admitted she said "no". Another reason why he refused to prosecute is because the victim allegedly had an abortion. (She said she had a miscarriage)



    What's scary is, both of these candidates came close to winning. This is why women, and rational people in general, need to vote.
    ^Same in Wisconsin. One of the candidates for...was it Congress?...pro-life even in the face of rape, health risk to woman, etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole84 View Post
    the problem is that the US is a country of people who want instant results. instant gratification.

    obama has been president for less than a full 2yrs and they are pissed that he didnt wave a magic wand and turn the country into utopia.

    change happens over time, not overnight. I voted for him and still stand by him.

    then again, im someone who has not missed an election since i was 18, loves politics, is a liberal (though lean conservative fiscally), in law school, and think there are too many damn uninformed, stupid people out there voting.
    Exactly. I mean seriously, it takes some couples years just to get through the divorce process. It's gonna take longer than 2 years to put a country back together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole84 View Post
    the problem is that the US is a country of people who want instant results. instant gratification.

    obama has been president for less than a full 2yrs and they are pissed that he didnt wave a magic wand and turn the country into utopia.
    No, we're pissed because Obama promised us real health care reform and without much of a fight, rolled over and gave us a "solution" that now just requires us all to give money to the same corrupt people who have been fucking us over forever. We're pissed because he stabbed the gay community in the back when he promised again and again to do away with DOMA and then turned around and openly supported it. So please don't reduce our very real and valid objections by pretending we want him to "wave a magic wand."
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Aaaaand bow out.
    Feel free to go ahead and do that anytime now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    No, we're pissed because Obama promised us real health care reform and without much of a fight, rolled over and gave us a "solution" that now just requires us all to give money to the same corrupt people who have been fucking us over forever. We're pissed because he stabbed the gay community in the back when he promised again and again to do away with DOMA and then turned around and openly supported it. So please don't reduce our very real and valid objections by pretending we want him to "wave a magic wand." What an empty, childish thing to say.
    if you waited for "perfect" to get passed, we'd all be dead first.

    Get something basic, with some basic starting points passed, and then work on it. it's getting a foot in the door quickly, rather than waiting forever to just smash the door down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    Feel free to go ahead and do that anytime.
    ...Ouch?

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    ^^^ I'm sorry if that sounded harsh, I don't actually want you to leave the thread. I just find it irksome when people continually announce that they are leaving a thread, as if it must be announced. Even more so when they do it repeatedly. Even more so when they do so as a "response" to something I've posted. Even more so when they apparently have no interest in leaving the thread, just periodically announcing that they are leaving the thread. It often looks like they want to portray themselves as being above it, while still continuing to participate. I just don't get it. If you want to contribute, do so. If you don't, don't. *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole84 View Post
    if you dont believe in the system and dont vote and think they are all evil, then i hope you never try to take advantage of things like medicare, medicaid, food stamps, WIC, social security, or any other gov't run benefit/assistance program.
    Call me crazy but I think people who pay their taxes but don't vote have more right to assistance programs and benefits than those who vote religiously but never pay a dime in taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia View Post
    ^^^ I'm sorry if that sounded harsh, I don't actually want you to leave the thread. I just find it irksome when people continually announce that they are leaving a thread, as if it must be announced. Even more so when they do it repeatedly. Even more so when they do so as a "response" to something I've posted. Even more so when they apparently have no interest in leaving the thread, just periodically announcing that they are leaving the thread. I just don't get it. If you want to contribute, do so. If you don't, don't. *shrug*
    Touché. I have problems bowing out of political debates. It's something I'm working on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole84 View Post
    if you waited for "perfect" to get passed, we'd all be dead first.

    Get something basic, with some basic starting points passed, and then work on it. it's getting a foot in the door quickly, rather than waiting forever to just smash the door down.

    Slow change is not going to happen because the system is broken. Our politicians are owned by corporations, and as long as that system is in place our politicians will act according to their interests. Which is why we ended up with "health care reform" that just gives more money to the crooks who gave us this healthcare crisis to begin with. No one is asking for perfect, what we are saying is that Obama has compromised waaaayyy too much. Republicans fight for what they want. Democrats don't, that's why they're suffering. It's not the people's job to stand by the democrats no matter what. If the democrats are concerned that this is turning people off to them and leaving people less enthusiastic about voting for them, maybe they should take the hint and actually do something to try to reverse that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Touché. I have problems bowing out of political debates. It's something I'm working on.

    I am sorry Charlie. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings or give the impression you're not wanted in this thread. As I said, so often when people announce they are leaving a thread but continue, it seems like they are trying to say they are above the discussion, even though they clearly aren't since they're going to keep participating actually. I don't think that's what you were doing anymore though.
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    ok...i am actually going to bow out because it is not my job to change peoples minds and all this thread is doing is annoying me. But, I knew that it would going in and just couldnt help myself. my bad.

    vote or dont vote. but if you dont, then dont bitch to me about how you dont like what the gov't is doing.

    i hope all of you who hate the system can find a place that has one you like.

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