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    Hey ladies, I'm just starting to try it out the raw foods thing and so far most the recipes that have been suggested to me suck. I would love for any of you to post your favorite recipe(s)! As well as any tips. It's getting chilly where I am so I imagine going raw will be a little more difficult. Thanks for the help!
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    the best thing i ever did was switch to a raw diet


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    There are a ton of great raw recipe sites, but a couple favorites:

    http://goneraw.com/

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    http://rawrightnow.tumblr.com/ (this takes recipes from all over the place, and conveniently deposits them on my tumblr dashboard between pictures of pin-up girls and lolcats )

    By the way, I think you'll LOVE it if you stick with it. It is a hard transition, but I feel like a superhero when I eat raw. And even recipes that don't seem great now will be tastier to you as you get used to it. For me it was just so goddamned crunchy in the beginning! But now, a year later, I love all the new recipes I try.

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    Okay, Promnesiac, goneraw.com is now my favorite website. There's so much stuff to make that doesn't require a dehyradtor, weird ingredients, or hours of preparation. I made sunflower seed hummus last night and it was GREAT! Seriously, thank you so much for introducing me to that website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K Sweet View Post
    Okay, Promnesiac, goneraw.com is now my favorite website. There's so much stuff to make that doesn't require a dehyradtor, weird ingredients, or hours of preparation. I made sunflower seed hummus last night and it was GREAT! Seriously, thank you so much for introducing me to that website.
    YAY! I'm so glad you like it! I was so glad to find it as well, because I was tired of seeing recipes that were like, "Prep time: 36 hours". There are some fantastic, fancy recipes out there, but on a regular day you just want something you can enjoy in a normal amount of time without $4500 worth of accoutrements.

    And I haven't made the sunflower seed hummus yet, but I'll definitely try it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Sweet View Post
    Hey ladies, I'm just starting to try it out the raw foods thing
    Why? See:

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...20#post2007720

    Good luck.
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    You're assuming a causal relationship between brain size and the introduction of cooked food into the human diet. In fact, cooked food is more calorically efficient, giving man sufficient nutrition for rapidly developing bodies and brains. It was not the cooking itself which increased brain size, but the increase in calories and nutrition.

    As we are no longer dependent upon foraging to survive, and are not limited to what plants are available naturally to consume, we're able to ingest sufficient nutrition without cooking.

    It is a matter of calories, not cooking. And we eat enough calorie-dense foods to make it a viable and potentially very healthy way of life. If it's not to your taste, that's fine, but there's really no valid argument against it. Likewise, there's no valid argument against cooked food -- it is simply a matter of taste and what you find makes you feel better personally.

    I don't advocate a 100% raw diet indefinitely, because I think that the difficulty of consuming enough of certain nutrients makes it more of a pain in the ass than is really worth it. But certainly a high-percentage of raw foods can be a very healthy choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Promnesiac View Post
    You're assuming a causal relationship between brain size and the introduction of cooked food into the human diet. In fact, cooked food is more calorically efficient, giving man sufficient nutrition for rapidly developing bodies and brains. It was not the cooking itself which increased brain size, but the increase in calories and nutrition.
    To which our actual physiology changed to eat, mostly cooked food.

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    As we are no longer dependent upon foraging to survive, and are not limited to what plants are available naturally to consume, we're able to ingest sufficient nutrition without cooking.

    It is a matter of calories, not cooking.
    False. Did you actually read it? Cooking of food is literally pre digestion for humans at this point allowing various nutrients trapped in uncooked food to be absorbed and other factors. It's far from simply an issue of calorie density.

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    And we eat enough calorie-dense foods to make it a viable and potentially very healthy way of life. If it's not to your taste, that's fine, but there's really no valid argument against it.
    Of course there is, and not from "traditional" types, but even from alternative types who in favor of vegetarian diets. For example, Dr. Andrew Weil on raw diets:

    "His view on all-raw-foods diets is less favorable. While some foods are more nutritious raw, some others are more beneficial after they've been cooked. And some foods may contain toxins that need to be broken down by the cooking process"

    "...raw diets for me are problematic. The people who argue for raw diets say that the enzymes in foods are destroyed by cooking and that these are vital to good health.

    That’s nonsense. Dropping enzymes into stomach acid is at least as violent transformation as cooking and enzymes are proteins, they are digested like protein molecules in the stomach. They really serve no role in human nutrition.

    Also some micronutrients, especially the carotenoid pigments, things like beta carotene, lutein which is protective of eye health, lycopene which is very protective against cancer found in tomatoes for example. These are much more available from cooked foods than from raw foods."


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    Likewise, there's no valid argument against cooked food -- it is simply a matter of taste and what you find makes you feel better personally.

    I don't advocate a 100% raw diet indefinitely, because I think that the difficulty of consuming enough of certain nutrients makes it more of a pain in the ass than is really worth it. But certainly a high-percentage of raw foods can be a very healthy choice.
    A high % of raw foods is very different then the raw food diets. That people need to eat more fresh raw fruits and vege's is obvious, but that's a totally different issue then following a true raw diet as advocated by some, using pseudo science and BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    To which our actual physiology changed to eat, mostly cooked food.



    False. Did you actually read it? Cooking of food is literally pre digestion for humans at this point allowing various nutrients trapped in uncooked food to be absorbed and other factors. It's far from simply an issue of calorie density.
    Yes, doll, I read it. And we're arguing largely the same point. It is the efficiency of nutrient absorption. Not that a human CANNOT obtain sufficient nutrients with mostly raw food, but that it is (or was) prohibitively time and energy consuming to do so. There are a few vitamins which are more bioavailable in their cooked forms, but again, that doesn't mean that you cannot get enough with raw foods.


    A high % of raw foods is very different then the raw food diets. That people need to eat more fresh raw fruits and vege's is obvious, but that's a totally different issue then following a true raw diet as advocated by some, using pseudo science and BS.


    We agree on this. Pseudo-science and crystal-gazing fruitcakery has no place in a person's dietary choices. The idea that anything cooked is tantamount to poison is about as reasonable as claiming that eating nothing but epsom salts and olive oil for two weeks will "cleanse your gallbladder".

    The "raw food diets" for the most part advocate "high raw", which is defined as 75% raw food. That to me is ideal.

    There are some ultra crackpots who venture into fruitarianism and, hilariously, breatharianism. I don't think that any of us are suggesting that kind of lifestyle. But the way that I and many others here do it is very beneficial.

    I'm not entirely sure I buy the enzyme argument at all -- but that's sort of irrelevant to me. What I do notice is that when you limit your intake to primarily raw foods, you do automatically consume more nutrients. The thing is, what the standard person eats is far removed from cavemen roasting antelope over the camp fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Promnesiac View Post
    Yes, doll, I read it. And we're arguing largely the same point. It is the efficiency of nutrient absorption. Not that a human CANNOT obtain sufficient nutrients with mostly raw food, but that it is (or was) prohibitively time and energy consuming to do so. There are a few vitamins
    It's more then a "few" vitamins.

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    which are more bioavailable in their cooked forms, but again, that doesn't mean that you cannot get enough with raw foods.
    Don't agree.

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    Y We agree on this. Pseudo-science and crystal-gazing fruitcakery has no place in a person's dietary choices. The idea that anything cooked is tantamount to poison is about as reasonable as claiming that eating nothing but epsom salts and olive oil for two weeks will "cleanse your gallbladder".

    The "raw food diets" for the most part advocate "high raw", which is defined as 75% raw food. That to me is ideal.
    At that point, one has to define the diet. They range from 100% raw, including meats, to something else. 75% is not a raw diet per se, simply a diet that recommends a high % as raw food, which is another issue really, one that could lead to a very healthy diet or a really crappy one. I have no idea what % I am, but I'd guess 50/50.

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    There are some ultra crackpots who venture into fruitarianism and, hilariously, breatharianism.
    Let's not forget juicearians and sproutarians

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    I don't think that any of us are suggesting that kind of lifestyle. But the way that I and many others here do it is very beneficial.
    I took it from the OP she was talking what's being pushd for raw diets, vs, increasing her intake of raw fruits and veges per se. Perhaps she can clarify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    At that point, one has to define the diet. They range from 100% raw, including meats, to something else. 75% is not a raw diet per se, simply a diet that recommends a high % as raw food, which is another issue really, one that could lead to a very healthy diet or a really crappy one. I have no idea what % I am, but I'd guess 50/50.
    Sure, and that certainly makes a difference. I think there's an automatic assumption that raw foodists are vegan*; I'm not even a vegetarian so I'm already out of the cool kids's club when it comes to raw.

    *nothing AT ALL wrong with veganism, lest it sounds like I'm saying that.


    Let's not forget juicearians and sproutarians

    I took it from the OP she was talking what's being pushd for raw diets, vs, increasing her intake of raw fruits and veges per se. Perhaps she can clarify.
    Right, and that's when it gets crazy.

    People assume that if some of something is good, more MUST be better. I eat about 70% raw, and that's great for me and I think that's what the OP means. To me that's a sane and sustainable diet. Because it means that every once in a while I can enjoy pizza and beer like a normal person

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    Quote Originally Posted by Promnesiac View Post

    People assume that if some of something is good, more MUST be better. I eat about 70% raw, and that's great for me and I think that's what the OP means. To me that's a sane and sustainable diet. Because it means that every once in a while I can enjoy pizza and beer like a normal person
    If you can't have a beer and a pizza once in a while, why are we here?!
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    Wow I didn't check this for a few days, damn!

    Will, to clarify, I just want to add more raw foods into my diet, and prepare them better. Everyone eats raw meals sometimes, like salad for example, is eated all the time in "healthy" diet. However, I want to try raw food preparation because I don't want lettuce to be my main vegetable intake.
    I've noticed a lot of raw meals are based off of vegetables and nuts, both things I consider healthy, especially in comparsion to something over processed with less nutrients. I'm vegan, and a damn healthy one, I'm really into some of the recipes because eating more nuts is important in getting enough fat. So for my diet and lifestyle, eating raw foods is a smart move that will more than likely bring me more health benefits.
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    If you have a whole foods or central market near you I would go there. They had a section in the deli with prepared raw foods which makes things soooooo much easier than having to dehydrate and prepare for days just to get one recipe. They had a raw 'cheesecake/keylime pie' thing that was sooooo good. Just be prepared to shell out $$$ because everything in the raw section is way expensive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Sweet View Post
    Wow I didn't check this for a few days, damn!

    Will, to clarify, I just want to add more raw foods into my diet, and prepare them better. Everyone eats raw meals sometimes, like salad for example, is eated all the time in "healthy" diet. However, I want to try raw food preparation because I don't want lettuce to be my main vegetable intake.
    I've noticed a lot of raw meals are based off of vegetables and nuts, both things I consider healthy, especially in comparsion to something over processed with less nutrients. I'm vegan, and a damn healthy one, I'm really into some of the recipes because eating more nuts is important in getting enough fat. So for my diet and lifestyle, eating raw foods is a smart move that will more than likely bring me more health benefits.
    Sounds like a plan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post
    If you have a whole foods or central market near you I would go there. They had a section in the deli with prepared raw foods which makes things soooooo much easier than having to dehydrate and prepare for days just to get one recipe. They had a raw 'cheesecake/keylime pie' thing that was sooooo good. Just be prepared to shell out $$$ because everything in the raw section is way expensive!
    ^Wow really? I was super busy last night and tried to find some a raw meal at Whole Foods and they didn't have jack. I ended up settling for veggie sushi, which is still pretty healthy.

    I'm making a lot of the food from scratch, I'm not willing to shell out my hard earned money for fancy stuff. Even though I woudn't mind the option once in a while.
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    Hmm, maybe its a local Austin thing. Austin has a high population of vegan and etc diets.

    If local stores don't carry it, I do know there are some mail order raw food companies. But again $$$$. Like ouch $$$.

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    Screw it. I'm making raw sushi right now all by my cheap little self.
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    I'm high raw vegan and I recommend www.kristensraw.blogspot.com for recipes. She's high raw vegan too and I think her way of eating is ideal-- emphasis on getting proper nutrition, lots of juicing, smoothies, salads, but also creative raw recipes and the occasional cooked recipe.

    When I first got into raw foods I went 100% and probably got 75% of my calories from nuts/seeds- which is what MOST gourmet raw recipes are made of. After I got making everything I possibly could raw using lots of expensive ingredients out of my system- I simplified my diet into recipes that take maximum 5 minutes to make. If it takes more than 5 minutes I probably won't make it. My diet consists of mostly smoothies, salads, and simple grains. I snack on coconut milk yogurt, seeds and nuts. I eat brown rice, oats and quinoa, and dishes made with them- for example-- brown rice sushi, oatmeal, quinoa with steamed veggies and tempeh. simple, easy, inexpensive. I do have the occasional "gourmet raw" meal if I'm really craving something interesting or I'm at a raw restaurant- raw cheesecake is amazing and it's fun to have raw pizza/tacos whatever every now and then- but i don't feel as good after I eat those kinds of foods as i do when I eat simple whole foods high raw including grains. The 100% raw diet is hard to do if you don't eat a TON of fruit and greens, because you'll end up eating lots of seeds and nuts, which affects your digestion adversely, and can make you feel heavy and lethargic.

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    Your diet sounds so perfect. I'm nowhere near 100%, maybe 50% right now. I can't wait to settle on a regime and lots of salad, nuts, and smoothies sounds so healthy. It's very cold where I am too so I'm adding ginger to whatever I can so juices and soups are my besties right now.

    I've also been making "salad rolls" with a nori sheet, lettuce, sunflower seed hummus, avocado, and asparagus. It's SO good and easy to take to-go. Found the recipe on goneraw.com

    BTW, Holidays being raw are going to be interesting.
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