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    Default Re: they've got the money, but you're not their type?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    Let's see, I've seen that happen more than once! There was a discussion on the blue side about this awhile back where I mentioned this occurs. Some of the blues who didn't know this apparently thought I was nuts because they weren't privvy to the information. This does happen though, & I have been around as it was happening. I've actually had to turn down multiple "offers" & had managers double question me on why I don't do extras... like because someone I know does them I'm supposed to! Ugh. Sorry, not my game.

    Often what happens is "John" (a well connected man with money) is planning to travel to a certain city that his buddy "Joe" (also well connected with money) travels to, so he asks "Joe" about a hook-up. "Joe" either tells "John" who to speak to at the local club in order to get an extras girl/prostitute, or "Joe" or will call on behalf of "John" to speak to the person directly. Normally the third party negotiator is a manager, bouncer or VIP host. Sometimes "John" will give a hefty tip to this club staff member when he comes into the club, receive said extras/OTC activities, then pay the girl. As a "thank you" for bringing her business the girl often tips the third party negotiator. Now obviously the girl isn't going to say to "John" "Hey, did you tip the negotiator?"... so a lot of times the negotiator is actually getting tipped by both parties involved! Suddenly you can see why there are many willing to do the job of third party negotiator.

    Some guys find their own extras girl, or call their friend & ask which girls to be on the look out for a the club. This can be a sign that they are not well connected, or that they just like privacy. My experience though is the really well to do guys go through a club negotiator.

    Yes, some clubs really do have pimps.


    OP, what's done is done. However, if it were me I'd ask your manager about it, tell him you would like to know what they didn't like so you can work on improving it, or if they just wanted girls who would do extras. I would straight out use the word extras too. If there is something you can improve on, do it! Or if they wanted extras girls at least you won't be in the dark about it.

    Where is it you are working? City/State?
    I had this happen to me as well only on the reverse. I once worked at a bar where the manager had his favorite girls and he would push them to get the well paying customers. Luckily at this point I was one of his favorites, but I later found out he assumed that if I was tipped well I would sleep with some of the wealthier clients. When he found out I would not he quickly lost interest in me and I fell from being one of his favorites. I even found out that he had rooms in the back for this purpose. I ended up quitting and a month later the club was busted for prostitution.

    OP, at least you made money off it. I'd be thrilled at that point. Sure it would be sad to be rejected but it happens.

    I'm going to sound racist but I've had countless bad experiences with Indian men in the clubs. The ones I've dealt with tended to think of strippers as whores. It's one of the few times where it has affected who I date outside of the club and I would never date an Indian (Middle Eastern Arab men are the other ones I never date).

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    Default Re: they've got the money, but you're not their type?

    At least you got a hundred! Couple things came to mind when I read this:

    1 - if the manager gave you money (not the custy) it could be politics in the club...make sure that if other girls are tipping the manager, you are too - be friendly, keep on their good side. Social Capital in the club is completely worth it...

    2 - Unless they were specifically after boobs or extras (the two things you really can't get past) you should be able to turn yourself into their "type" by asking lots of questions and feeding off of their answers to figure out what they want from the night. Start dumb and into them, and then you can move into smart or bitchy fairly easily (its pretty hard to say "oh, I actually AM dumb, I just pretend to be smart!"). Keep changing and making sure that they seem engaged with you.

    3 - If it does happen, (and it does) take it with a SMILE. I was dancing for a group of guys (who were led by a reg of mine) and they turned down another girl. She SCREAMED at them, blew up, totally acted like a freak...and not only could she not get a dance from them, but she couldn't get a dance from anyone else who saw her performance....be aware that other customers can see you when you walk away!

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    Default Re: they've got the money, but you're not their type?

    ^#3 is SOOO important. if you freak out, it's such a turn off. one time I was with one girl trying to get a double dance with this guy and his friend and they were acting like major assholes so she was like "you know what? you're wasting my time FUCK you" and stormed off. I ended up getting dances from both of them because I held patient.

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    Default Re: they've got the money, but you're not their type?

    ^ maybe they were wasting her time though. maybe they liked you and not her.

    last night another girl dragged me into a convo with some guys because they wanted dances. only the one i was brought to talk to didn't want dances. and i knew it. it was totally obvious. but i didn't walk away until a few songs in, once the other one and his girl were going for a double with that dancer and another, and the guy i was talking to didn't want to join. if it hadn't sucked so much, i wouldn't have stayed more than 30 seconds, because i could just tell. but no one else wanted dances anyways, so i hoped the one guy would pay for his friend and made him come along. awesomely, that guy was way more into me than the girl who was hustling him, but she got his money and i barely made house on a friday. yay.

    point is: sometimes you can tell that a guy is definitely wasting your time. she probably shouldn't have said anything. she should've just excused herself. but imagine, if she hadn't gone off on them, they might not have wanted to prove something, and they might not have gotten dances from you.
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