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    A girl just recently started working at my club she moved from another state and has danced before. My shoe strap broke on Monday and she was like "why don't you get a customer to buy you new shoes? I do it all the time guys love to buy things for dancers. Don't ask them just say you need them"

    she apparently has gotten shoes outfits makeup and a bunch of other stuff by hustling guys for presents.

    Does anyone do this? What's a good technique?

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    I've never hustled for a present, but I did get given a swarovski necklace by one young guy, and a new phone by another. Actually I dropped a lot of hints about the phone. I went for lunch with him, put my old crappy one on the table and he took me straight to a phone shop to buy me a new one right before I left town and never saw him again

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    Just thought about it at work tonight, especially because Christmas time is getting closer. I've never worked this time of the year, so would it be a good idea to mention to my regulars, what I'd like to get? What would be a nice and non greedy way to do it? I've never received any gifts but I've never asked for them as well, so maybe now it's the perfect time to get started.

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    I think I would feel uncomfortable flat out asking a customer for anything except money. I'll rob a guy blind but for some reason I feel weird getting a guy to shop for me. I guess indirect comments like "ugh I really need new (whatever)" without being too cutesy about it to make it seem like you're not asking for anything. It's hard because guys don't pick up on subtle hints but they would rather have it be their own idea than feel like they're obligated to get you something. I've always noticed when it comes to buying drinks at least if I ask for one a guy is put off but if I pretend I'm trying to catch the bartenders attention he'll offer to get me something

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    I've received plenty of presents, honestly though most of the time I'd rather have the money. If he goes & get's you shoes there's a good chance he won't get the right ones unless you are with him, have it waiting for pick-up at the store, or give him the exact item number for the sales person. Plus, if a guy is going to over pay for something I'd rather get the money directly so I can get it where it's available for a good price & use the extra money on something else.

    Dropping hints is normally the way it is done though, but it works a lot better in more of a SD type relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    I've received plenty of presents, honestly though most of the time I'd rather have the money. If he goes & get's you shoes there's a good chance he won't get the right ones unless you are with him, have it waiting for pick-up at the store, or give him the exact item number for the sales person. Plus, if a guy is going to over pay for something I'd rather get the money directly so I can get it where it's available for a good price & use the extra money on something else.

    Dropping hints is normally the way it is done though, but it works a lot better in more of a SD type relationship.
    why not have both? I have a regular that comes in an gets an hour champagne room with me twice a week. I get a lot of money from him and I would be psyched if he bought me something I was going to buy anyway. I get why you would rather just have the cash but I say get whatever you can out of these guys!

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    Tell them you need (whatever) really bad and it costs (whatever $$$) and you're stressing because you don't know where you'll get the money. Or if you want something frou frouish tell them you've been really down in the dumps and it would make you feel so much better to get (whatever) as a little treat.

    So, basic equation is dancer feels depressed, customer can be her hero by giving her so much extra money.

    I gave up regulars awhile ago. These games never appealed to me. I would rather just party with a bunch of strangers that I'll never see again. Soo much less emotional drama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    why not have both? I have a regular that comes in an gets an hour champagne room with me twice a week. I get a lot of money from him and I would be psyched if he bought me something I was going to buy anyway. I get why you would rather just have the cash but I say get whatever you can out of these guys!
    Beyond the reasons I already listed above, & there's a big one in there - left over cash to play with, it's because cash keeps him realizing that it's still business. When you start getting into presents, especially if you go shopping with him, you are crossing into other territories that can cause you more problems than what they are worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfect View Post
    Just thought about it at work tonight, especially because Christmas time is getting closer. I've never worked this time of the year, so would it be a good idea to mention to my regulars, what I'd like to get? What would be a nice and non greedy way to do it? I've never received any gifts but I've never asked for them as well, so maybe now it's the perfect time to get started.
    To work the Christmas side of things, you could probably cash in on 'sitting on santa's lap'. If you have regulars, make jokes about being a good girl or a naughty girl, and ask what Santa will get you for Christmas if you're extra sweet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    Beyond the reasons I already listed above, & there's a big one in there - left over cash to play with, it's because cash keeps him realizing that it's still business. When you start getting into presents, especially if you go shopping with him, you are crossing into other territories that can cause you more problems than what they are worth.
    even if he's been your regular for a while? the guy who gets 2 CRs a week with me has been coming in to see me since I started dancing. he knows I have a boyfriend. he's never asked me to hang out with him. it depends on the person. I do see what you're saying though. For most customers I would rather just take the cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitinboots View Post
    to work the christmas side of things, you could probably cash in on 'sitting on santa's lap'. If you have regulars, make jokes about being a good girl or a naughty girl, and ask what santa will get you for christmas if you're extra sweet
    too cute!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    even if he's been your regular for a while? the guy who gets 2 CRs a week with me has been coming in to see me since I started dancing. he knows I have a boyfriend. he's never asked me to hang out with him. it depends on the person. I do see what you're saying though. For most customers I would rather just take the cash
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    Quote Originally Posted by goreantx View Post
    Uh oh! Remember, a customer is a customer, there are no special customers. There might be customers that pay you more, but they're just dudes with wallets.
    in all honesty I REALLY don't think hinting that I want a new outfit or something will ruin my customer forever. if he doesn't think spending thousands of dollars on me owes him some special treatment then what would buying me a present change? all regs have an expiration date anyway

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    Heres a sugestion bring catalogs to work and tell the guy what you really love and if he offers to get it for you tell him what size you wear or just circle it in the book. That way you do not have to accompany him to the store if you do not feel safe. Francinista

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    I told a guy i needed to work x amount of nights to make lots of money so i could do buy new shoes! that guy turned around and said "don't worry about it" and took me shopping. he bought me a ton of stuff!! but this was def a reg who was on the verge of quitting spending money. :/
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    I knew a girl in Paris that had a customer of hers from Spain come to town. He took her to the Lido (a dance show on the Champs Elysées) and shopping. She had a holiday coming up so she dragged him into the Louis Vuitton shop to buy her a weekend bag, but the minute he started to make a move on her she put her foot down, and demanded to be taken home. He returned the shopping, but two days later he took her out for lunch and bought her a louis vuitton handbag, no strings attached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    even if he's been your regular for a while? the guy who gets 2 CRs a week with me has been coming in to see me since I started dancing. he knows I have a boyfriend. he's never asked me to hang out with him. it depends on the person. I do see what you're saying though. For most customers I would rather just take the cash
    It's a slippery slope type of scenario. Often those customers go from being customers to SD's... which can lead a girl to become too dependent on him, put her at legal risk if she sees him outside of the club, cause problems with significant others, & stir up trouble if the club finds out.

    Most girls who want things drop hints, like I said - I'm not big on it for a lot of reasons. I wouldn't dream of hustling a guy for stripper shoes, it could easily come off to him like you aren't making enough in the club to be able to afford a new pair, we are all better than that! When you start asking for things, or hinting that you need things, you are giving them power. They'll do it for a bit, but eventually the majority of them will start playing games with it... because now they know that you've taken a heavy interest in them (even if it is for presents). You want to keep the ball in your court.

    Let them work hard trying to earn your attention, & don't ever become reliant on it! Trust me, even without telling them what you like they will bring you things. If you seem grateful & say "thank you" once about it, without seeming like it changes how you feel about them... they will keep trying with items that are more personal and/or more expensive.

    I have a story about a friend of mine that fell into huge problems with the customer turned SD. I was going to post it, but what I've told you above is really the point of it unless people really want to hear it.





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    I wouldn't mind hearing the story

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    I was joking around with my best friend tonight at dinner that I should ask for a 'new apartment fund' tip and get my furniture bought (have you guys seen prices of furniture lately?! holy god!) but know there are girls who get guys to buy them gifts all the time..of course what we DONT know is why/how they got it, or what they do in, or out of the club for them. Still would like to hear the story though!

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    I'm saving for university and have sometimes played with the "contribution to my university fund " thing and guys have tipped me for that. But it's only when they ask what I'm saving for. They seem to like it when you earn $$ to pay off something decent.. But never demand the extra tip. It will kill the mood and will make you look like you are forced to work to make that certain amount of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure View Post
    I wouldn't mind hearing the story
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    Still would like to hear the story though!


    A lot of my friends that are married/dating have SD's, but these guys are still after something. One of my best friends had about 6 SD's at one point. However, her major SD WAS a bit different from the others partially because he's been around so many years & had so much more to give her, but he started off as a customer in the club.

    Over the years she got to where she (& her husband) relied on this SD for a lot of stuff, too much as a matter of fact. When this major SD would take her out on his boat or major vacation trips, he often invited the husband to come. This went on for YEARS. The husband would want the money, but get mad about all the personal time she & the SD would spend together... & all the things the SD bought for her that he couldn't. Literally they would get into physical fights about this stuff. She loved her husband because they'd been together for so long & she was attracted to him, but he couldn't give her all the things that the the SD had her accustomed to.

    The SD also became pretty controlling with her. He didn't want her dancing, he kept saying he gave her plenty of money. He did give her a lot, but she likes to party too & dancing is part of that for her. Anyhow, she would go to other cities to work & not answer her phone because she didn't want to tell him that she was working. He would start contacting me & all of her other friends to find out where she was.

    In the end she divorced her husband. Guess who thought he was next in line? The SD... & of course she wasn't attracted to this guy physically or mentally. So now what is she doing? Well, when the SD realized he wasn't going to actually have a chance with her he cut her off. Now neither of these guys are in her life & she can't really afford the lifestyle she's used to. She stopped working hard years ago & stopped putting away money, so now she has nothing to really show for all of this, & it lead her down another road that she doesn't like beyond just dancing.

    Ironically, when my friend told her SD that he wasn't next in line to be her beau (& he cut her off) he propositioned a few of her friends (myself included) about taking on her old SB role with him. As far as I know none of her friends took him up on it. A good friend is worth a lot more to me than money... but then again they tend to stay in my life a lot longer than men.

    It's a slippery slope. Men can come & go out of your life pretty fast. While all the pretty purses, fancy clothes, shoes, upscale dinners might be nice, they aren't putting money in the bank. As KellyDancer said on another thread "Youth is fleeting". Don't waste your youth & prime money making time on things that have no real equity, stick to money in the bank & liquid assets. Those shoes will lose their value, & if he just gives you the cash you are more likely to use it wisely. How many of you will turn around & sell a present you don't need? Not many have the will power to do that. Plus, what if he asks where these things are that he bought you? Both telling the truth & lying can lead you to more trouble in a situation like this.

    Sigh... there's more too this, but with a different customer turned SD.

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    Wow that really makes you think, thanks for sharing.
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    And that is why I will always make my own money, and not rely on a man for anything lol. Thanks for sharing though-still makes you realize no matter how 'nice' these guys are, theyre ALWAYS after something- another lady once said a SD either gets you out of your pants, or your sanity, or both. Its true.

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    ^^^ So, so true! That's not even just a SD... that's a good majority of the men I've dated!
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    It took me the whole story to work out what SD stands for!! Haha!

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