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Last edited by Athenathefabulous; 02-25-2011 at 05:19 AM.
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.
Can't you just straight up ask them for the corporate office number? I've never heard of a business refusing to give it, that would be very shady if they did that. Plus, if you ask them for it, they might get a little nervous and change their minds about making the effort to help you if they know what they're doing is wrong and they're worried corporate is not going to be happy with them.
Money talks. Offer to pay the first 3 or 4 months upfront. Also, come prepared with bank statements and a letter from your accountant.
Type the letter for your manager and then give it to him to sign.
Honestly, I think you are spending a lot in rent (from the other thread). Why not just find somewhere cheaper so that you can save more? Putting 50k down on a house felt pretty good. And the money I have saved up really makes me feel like i have gotten a lot out of dancing.





Welcome to the 'real world' of strip clubs from the clubowner's side. The obvious reason that no strip club wants to go on record in regard to the total amount of private dance / VIP / CR money paid out to dancers is that, in doing so, the club would also have to acknowledge the amount of income that the club itself earned / reported / paid taxes on as a result of the same private dance / VIP / CR ! And as an independent contractor, the club has absolutely no obligation to provide you with anything beyond the information the club reports via 1099-misc at the end of the year ... which typically doesn't include dancer tip earnings, direct / cash payments from club customers to dancers, or anything else besides club cash-in's of funny money or club pass-throughs of customer credit card charges.i feel like something is off here. the fact that one manager said all of the CRs i have sold are tracked at corporate means i should be able to get a hold of it. also, the fact that apparently i can get no sort of reciept that i sell a room if a customer pays cash on a day to day basis i also find shady.
In 'legal' terms, as an independent business, the only 100% acceptable method to verify income under recently released tighter financial regulations is to present 2 years worth of business tax returns. Of course, this also requires that the dancer report her earnings to the IRS and state tax agencies and pay the appropriate taxes due.
Also, these days, other tighter financial regulations now limit the ability to simply do cash transactions. In some states, any cash transaction over $3,000 will force the business receiving the cash payment to generate a transaction report to the IRS. This threshold is fairly easy to hit if you're talking about paying first plus last plus three months worth of rent up front. These cash transaction reports can raise question marks at the IRS which may result in the IRS investigating where this cash actually came from ( i.e. checking how much income was reported on last year's tax return ).
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Last edited by Athenathefabulous; 02-25-2011 at 05:19 AM.
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.





^^^ well the club WILL have a record of the customer's credit card transactions. Every dollar of this must be reported as income by the club, and thus taxed. However, if the club can show via 1099-misc form to the IRS that the customer's credit card money was in fact paid out to another business ( i.e. you the independent contractor dancer ) then the club does NOT have to report or pay taxes on that money ( you do ! ). This is the reason that clubs maintain records on customer credit card transactions.
As to the 15% 'surcharge', the likely reason for this is that credit card processing companies do charge fees and percentages for processing customer transactions, and that credit card processing companies and the clubs both run the risk of eating losses by credit card customers disputing charges at a later date that have to be 'covered' out of credit card transactions that AREN'T disputed. Adult businesses have notoriously high problem rates in this regard.
Imagine this scenario. A customer comes in and does $1000 worth of private dances / VIP / CR with you. The club bills the customer's credit card for the $1,000 and, after normal credit card processing fees actually gets credited something like $925 in the club's credit card merchant account ( with the credit card processor keeping $75 off the top). The club in turn pays out $850 of the $925 to you immediately. Now 6 weeks later, after the customer receives his credit card bill and disputes it, the credit card company 'takes back' the $925 credit to the club's credit card merchant account. Does the club come after you to return the $850 ? - no it doesn't ... it applies the extra $75 that it retained from this customers' original transaction ( plus the extra $75 it retained from 11 other different customer transactions where it paid you a similar $850) to make good the loss.





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Last edited by Athenathefabulous; 02-25-2011 at 05:19 AM.
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.





^^^ yes they will but they have no legal obligation to produce this info until they generate an IRS 1099-misc form next February covering all of 2010.




do you have a bank account? if so, do you have your deposit slips? if you have online banking you can print out a record of your transactions too.
do you know anyone who could cosign for you on a lease? surely you must have some family or friends with good credit



Deja Vu corporate is local for me. Here is info: 517-323-0113 or 517-323-3052 3800 Capital City Blvd DeWitt Twp, Michigan 48820
Don't know if this helps, but I just had to prove my income for financing a new car, and I also did this for proving my income at the apartment I live at now.
When asked what I do, I say "independent contractor" on all forms (it's true, you get a 1099, you are an independent contractor - but I neglect to specify what I'm contracted for *teehee*) and when asked how much money I make a month, I go back and look at my bank account and do a print out of the last 3/4 months, highlighting all the deposits made. Then, add all your deposits and average them out over the time period, and claim that as your monthly income. Write it at the top of the printout, black out all the other shit and hand it to them. MUCH easier than trying to get ANYTHING from a club, and you can't dispute it. Plus, if you need to finance a certain amount that requires you to make a large sum of money per month, you can always bust ass for a few months, and hand those bank statements in.
Hope this helps
Graziella





Athena - I ran into the same problem when I got my apt. The club would not help me out at all - they wouldn't even give me a letter stating I worked there! Anyway, the thing about CR's - coporate might keep track of how many are sold, but I doubt they keep track of who sold them. It's not like the head office is going to clutter up company spreadsheets with whether it was 'Candy' or 'princess' who sold what room. I've never really known a club to keep track.
I'd think going through the club it pretty futile, it might be easier to prove you make money on your own terms. Give them bank statements, pay a few months ahead of time, and sign an affidavit or something saying you'll produce tax info as soon as you get it back after filing.
For the future...
I spoke with my personal banking rep about how to solve this problem just recently, and he mentioned incorporating, opening a business account, and transferring funds to my personal account as if I am paying myself as an employee (which we all are). I'm skeptical about if this would really be acceptable since we never paid attention to these kinds of proofs of income when I work in automotive finance.
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Last edited by Athenathefabulous; 02-25-2011 at 05:19 AM.
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.





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I have an llc and I despoit my money into a business bank account and then I write checks to myself and I give myself a 1099 so I have almost 5 years of proof now.



In simple terms... I dont undestand the llc and business account thing. In being an escort, its reallllly hard to get a car that I want, being that I cant say IM AN ESCORT. Ok I could say independent contractor and neglect to say how I contract like said above... Anyways,
The llc and business account seems common. Im just not sure I understand it. Im scared when tax time comes around this year, and the only records i have are allll my bank deposit statements. Also, I want to buy a car by Xmas... its soooo hard to do though without straight cash..

LLC's don't cause you to have to pay taxes on the income twice?
I'd think the LLC would have to file a return and pay taxes on the income, and then you have to file a personal return and pay taxes on what the LLC pays you.
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't want Unci Sam in my pocket twice!




its all how you set it up. I only pay taxes once. I write everything off.
My company doesnt look like adult entertainment to someone who doesnt know me. And it proves my income and job stability.
I did mine through legal zoom! It was under 200.





The LLC only files an informational return. You include the information from the informational return on your form 1040. The LLC's earnings thus are taxed at your rate. The good news is the LLC gets to deduct all ordinary and necessary business expenses from gross receipts before giving a bottom line number to include on your tax return. The end result is you pay taxes only once on the net income!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You dont need to incorporate to prove your income. I owned three homes by the age of 31. I file tax returns every year and have a 800 credit score. When I aquired financing for anything I just showed 3 years returns. Though with all the foreclosures obamas plan has made it harder for people to get mortgages but I just refinanced one of my mortgages and my accountant whose firm has handled my taxes for 20 years wrote me a letter on top of my showing tax returns.





Not wanting to rain on anybody's parade, but since the subprime debacle the acceptance of personal bank account deposit records does NOT constitute legal proof of income. The regulatory reason for this is that the actual source of the deposited money is not known. Granted that some institutions may accept personal bank account deposit records as sufficient 'proof of income' for their own purposes, but from a LEGAL proof of income standpoint ( which is necessary for Fannie / Freddie mortgages, as well as mandated by most major banks for any type of loan ) about the only acceptable proof is tax return copies.MUCH easier than trying to get ANYTHING from a club, and you can't dispute it.
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