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    So i dont know if you guys have been following this, but san francisco tried to recently pass a law against happy meals. the premise being that happy meals have toys that encourage children to eat food that is bad for them.

    The vote to ban happy meals was 8-3. Under the new system, if a resturaunt wants to include toys with the meal, the meal must meet certain nutritional guidelines.

    The mayor vetoed it, but the vote is enough to override the veto.

    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/...es_--_with.php
    http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-12/u...esert?_s=PM:US

    So what do you guys think? IMO a ban on happy meals doesnt seem any more unreasonable than the ban on cigarette ads that were allegedly designed to make children want to smoke. IMO, probably more reasonable since happy meals are definitely marketed towards kids and some of the joe camel ads back in the day were a bit more ambiguous.

    However, society seems to worry much more about smokers than ppl who overstuff their kids with hamburgers. i think that obesity kills more though.

    Also, in one of hte articles related to this i remember reading that most parents take their kids to get fast foods at least once a week. ill have to dig that up . i think it was like 80%? which is ridiculous.

    ***ETA: To be clear, this law passing means that a happy meal or another meal targeted at a child would be less than 600 calories. thats really all that it translates to.***
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    I think that the worst thing about 'Happy Meals' is that they won't sell them to 'kids' aged 14 and above. I REALLY wanted that pair of pink 'turbo-binoculars'.......(Booo Hoooo....Sniff!)
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    I think its a good idea. I mean it's not that "happy meals" are actually being banned, just that they need to meet certain nutritional requirements to be legal as a meal. Some people will argue that theirs tons of sugar & sweets on the market, but those aren't marketed as meals. The problem is that some parents feel like it's their right to do what they want with their kids, & honestly some parents don't have their child's best interest at heart. A lot of parents also aren't smart enough to make educated decisions.

    Prime example, I know a mother & son that all they do is pretty much eat hamburgers & fast food. Both of them have become way too heavy but instead of changing their diet they just complain about the weight. If the mother had raised the son to eat healthy meals then he probably wouldn't be eating fast food as often today, but instead he fell into his mother's bad habits. The only way their weight will ever change is if the restaurants changed their meals to something more healthy, because these two will not change their habits.

    Personally, I think McDonald's is pretty disgusting in general though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pussyinboots View Post
    I think that the worst thing about 'Happy Meals' is that they won't sell them to 'kids' aged 14 and above. I REALLY wanted that pink 'turbo-binocular'.......Boooh Hooooh....Sniff!!!!!
    Normally you can buy the toys separate... & you don't need to be under 14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    Normally you can buy the toys separate... & you don't need to be under 14.
    OK...I'll try again then...
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    I think it'd stupid. I am tired of people blaming fast food for being fat. Common sense would tell most people that fast food is bad all the time. When I was growing up McDonalds was a treat we went to maybe once a week at most. Otherwise we ate healthy, lots of fruit and vegetables and milk. We were also outside playing all the time.

    I think many parents today are not doing their parental job to watch what the kids eat. Then they wonder why they are fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pussyinboots View Post
    I think that the worst thing about 'Happy Meals' is that they won't sell them to 'kids' aged 14 and above. I REALLY wanted that pair of pink 'turbo-binoculars'.......(Booo Hoooo....Sniff!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    I think many parents today are not doing their parental job to watch what the kids eat. Then they wonder why they are fat.
    No kidding! That's what I mean, some people can't even make healthy choices for themselves... let alone their children.
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    I like burgers......

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    My husband was telling me about this...honestly, I think it's a bunch of bs.
    These are probably the same people who don't even have kids.
    No one should be able to tell anyone what their child can and can not eat.
    They put those little apple dippers and milk jugs with the happy meals....in an attempt to make it more healthy.

    but really, it's a fucking happy meal.
    Sometimes they're the perfect "treat" or "reward" to a good day.

    Might as well ban donuts, chocolate, ice cream too while they're at it.

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    I think this is wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    I think its a good idea. I mean it's not that "happy meals" are actually being banned, just that they need to meet certain nutritional requirements to be legal as a meal. Some people will argue that theirs tons of sugar & sweets on the market, but those aren't marketed as meals. The problem is that some parents feel like it's their right to do what they want with their kids, & honestly some parents don't have their child's best interest at heart. A lot of parents also aren't smart enough to make educated decisions.

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    Crap, I really have to start reading threads before I post because this is basically everything I was just bitching about..LOL, you called it.

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    but I also did want to add that I don't think banning Happy Meals is gonna solve the problem.
    I think that food stamps should be regulated.
    You can buy freaking Pez, a hot dog and Big Gulp at 7-11 with food stamps! LOL
    If they're really concerned about children's weight, then maybe they should limit/regulate what you can buy with food stamps.

    because I see people stocking up on donuts, butter, soda, cookies and paying for all this "junk" with food stamps. I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to buy sweets, but maybe there should be a limit.

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    I think it just creates more of a problem.

    The people that take their kids regularly for fast food aren't going to stop going just because there aren't happy meals. They'll still go, and will have to order the Big Mac meal instead.

    I think the government telling families what they can or can not eat is ridiculous. People need to take some personal responsibilities for themselves.

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    It's a slippery slope... Hopefully some of the 'yes' votes will feel the pinch and they will switch to 'no'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Avery_ View Post
    but I also did want to add that I don't think banning Happy Meals is gonna solve the problem.
    I think that food stamps should be regulated.
    You can buy freaking Pez, a hot dog and Big Gulp at 7-11 with food stamps! LOL
    If they're really concerned about children's weight, then maybe they should limit/regulate what you can buy with food stamps.

    because I see people stocking up on donuts, butter, soda, cookies and paying for all this "junk" with food stamps. I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to buy sweets, but maybe there should be a limit.

    I totally agree! Ironically, when I worked out in San Francisco doing case management I saw a lot of that. Another thing that would often happen is someone who dealt drugs for a living on the streets would go shopping with someone on food stamps, so there was an exchange system in place, whereby the people on food stamps gave away food in exchange for drugs. I also posted once about the transgendered women coming into my office asking for tampons, & technically we were required by the government to give them tampons even though they didn't have periods. They'd sell them on the streets though for food, drugs, etc. Pretty much everything you can think of has street value, particularly in San Francisco where there is a huge homeless & low-income population.
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    It doesn't go far enough. I wish San Fran would ban fast food. And toys. Hey, here's an idea...they should ban kids. No kids=no kids eating fast food with toys.

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    As I grow older, the less I like people regulating what is good for us. Let US decide what we eat or drink and many other things, instead of the decision being in the hands of the few. Concentrate on the things that are truly harmful and I'm sorry this is not one of them. There are too many people who go so far as to determines our likes and dislikes. And a Happy Meal now and again will kill no one and it's not for others to decide this.

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    Where does parental responsibility come in?

    Sure, fast food isn't good for you all the time...so like most things, moderation is key. However banning sh*t because parents fail to be actual parents is ridiculous.

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    Do we really need government to tell us how to take car of ourselves? I would like to think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Avery_ View Post
    Crap, I really have to start reading threads before I post because this is basically everything I was just bitching about..LOL, you called it.

    --

    but I also did want to add that I don't think banning Happy Meals is gonna solve the problem.
    I think that food stamps should be regulated.
    You can buy freaking Pez, a hot dog and Big Gulp at 7-11 with food stamps! LOL
    If they're really concerned about children's weight, then maybe they should limit/regulate what you can buy with food stamps.

    because I see people stocking up on donuts, butter, soda, cookies and paying for all this "junk" with food stamps. I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to buy sweets, but maybe there should be a limit.
    I see more people buying junk with food stamps than anything else. I culdn't begin to tell about the people I've seen buying candy, pop, chips, etc on food stamps. I wish there could be some kind of food pantry where people could get food instead of these, that way there would be less buying junk or selling them. Of course some would still sell them but not as many.

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    Isn't there a good chance that instead of Kids getting happy meals... They'll just get adult size portions? So they'll be eating MORE of the same unhealthy food?

    I really don't think this is gonna stop anyone from eating fastfood.

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    I don't think this is going to lead to adult portions. The ban states that in order to include TOYS, kids' meals have to be under a certain number of calories.

    In the end, the kids want the toy, and the parents will also want the toy to shut their kid up. I doubt most parents are going to be willing to spend the money to buy their child a full-sized meal on top of the separate cost of the toy.

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    While I don't think that it's right for the government to dictate what we feed our kiddies, I do think this can have positive results. This may very well lead to McDonalds creating more healthy options. Sure, right now they have Milk Jugs and Apple Dippers, but that's not really much of a selection. I like the idea of giving children more of an option when they order at fast food restaurants, as, like Athena said, it seems kids are eating there weekly now. If it was a once-a-month thing for fun then I can't see the problem with french fries and a hamburger, but once a week is a lot if you're always having soda and fries.

    Giving your child a choice between several healthy options could lead to that child making healthier decisions throughout their lives. When kids are little they don't really know what's "healthy" and what's "bad"; we're the ones that instill that knowledge in them. Seeing that a fun, cool place like McDonald's sells a veggie tray with Sliced Carrots and Red and Yellow peppers and Chicken nuggets might just make that healthy food cool too.

    The banning is a bit much, but mandating that there needs to be caloric/nutritional guidelines in food targeted at kids is a step in the right direction.



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