http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com
Has anyone seen this website before.





http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com
Has anyone seen this website before.
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Great site suggestion! Thank you, Minnie!
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I been there and i did not like it to much not sure why,though




I've totally seen this! Read closely! the whole thing is propaganda about how cam-girls are ALL slaves around the world! US cam-girls are seen as just exploitative and money-hungry. Its all written from the perspective of a customer. The articles are simply hilarious! I went over this with AngelEyes a while back. Funny stuff but PLEASE don't take it seriously!
"SS=stripper shit, in the same spectrum as CS=customer shit, which is within the spectrum of SaS=sales shit, which is all contained in the universe of BS=bullshit." -- Jay Zeno (mod)
"Show me a hot chick and I'll show you someone who's tired of fucking her."
Well, now I know why i did not like that site lol I thought was a strange site




ya I'm over there and it's a really depressing forum about how camming is demeaning and everything is gloom and doom. I don't like it. It's not positive or empowering at all like this forum is.![]()


Wow.... That forum is kinda of funny... when I say funny I mean pathetic. Oh boy am I glad that I have a good head on my shoulders and don't give a fuck what ppl think.
I find it amusing to read. Those ppl have to much time on there hands.





Well that is good to know, which explains why I never joined. but they are using a free message board service which will come in handy for my sites.
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After a little bit of a closer inspection, I like how many public threads there are available. I skipped over the doom and gloon ones but I still find some of the threads interesting, primarily the ones with a lot of input from the (real or alleged) cam-girls.
I do agree that this forum is the best I've seen so far, however, and I "trust" the opinions more since so many cam-girls here are cross-over dancers.
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Read that site before I found this one - weird version of e-hobbyists but many are White Knights who "hate" this industry, despise American performers, weep crocodile tears for any non-American performers, but spend incredible amounts of time on cam sites and thinking about cam sites... =some seem deeply jaded/scorned. Add on a layer of 'all women are clueless victims' misogyny, obsessions with MFC, and defensiveness about possibly having a sex addiction, and poof. For example, a recent post from one of the Admins of the site:
"I'm not a member of any cam show website. By this I mean that I never took a girl in private, never sent a cent by paypal, never took my credit card out of my wallet for any model.
Am I proud of it ? No, It is just that I have never felt this need.
Am I what some of you call a free loader ?
I don't know, so far the models I had been in contact with used the term "friend""
Admin of a cam girl forum geared towards customers and you've never paid for a cam show before? ever? and have no intention of doing so?
.....
I've seen threads where guys talk about reporting models who work more than one site to get them in trouble.... guy talking about disputing legitimate charges for cam shows because of their shame.... Other threads that are pissed that they find model's pirated videos online and are determined to stop it... guys wanting to go to Russia to meet women they met on a cam site - I mean, its... something.
It always struck me as a weird black hole of customers having dialogue. Guys who actually pay, stay in private for long periods of time, know real life and internet fun boundaries, get their jollies off, leave, have 4-5 favorites they visit fairly regularly, are clear communicators, and don't use cam girls as therapists/future wives/blowup dolls don't seem to participate in the site (aka good regulars)... which is mainly why the hobbyist analogy seems most apt.
Wish I hadn't spent my early period of camming research on that site. It occasionally creeped me out. Thank god for stripper web, similar forums, and for-sex-worker-by-sex-workers blogs.
note: they have quite a bit of info about DMCA notices, tube sites, and blogs with pirated content... especially from F4F and MFC. Its useful info - I think most post it so they can read/watch themselves, but I have successfully used their DMCA threads to have content of mine removed. Recommended if you're vigilant about your content (that you own, I have used it for clips I've produced on sites that give me copyright, have not found live cam content of myself yet) being available.
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August 2011 edit: If it isn't clear - I want to have sex with you UL, Cyrano, etc. Right now. Let's stop all this e-fighting bb. Got gold?
Last edited by roast; 08-08-2011 at 05:16 PM.
Indeed, many costumers judge the cam work activity.
But the public forum as you see it is not all. It's a restricted side,too, only for models that i found it more interesting for sharing tips.
Roast, allow me to add a response here. I am sure that while most of the models on this forum are "professionals" and well aware of the risks they run of being recorded and posted on the pirate forums, this is not true of many of the "naive" studio models in Eastern Europe or Latin America. Indeed studio admins do everything in their power to ensure that new models don't find out about that until they're already used to the money coming in.
Ofc, no need to take my word on that: just read what The Partisan wrote about what she wasn't told about her job by a major Bucharest Studio:
http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/i...showtopic=1959.
So CGN had to decide how to handle informing them when their studios wouldn't..
We have adopted a two prong approach. First there's lot's of information about the incidence of piracy on several major sites is posted in the public areas of the forum, but we stopped updating it two years ago since the publicity only seem to encourage the pirates to make a greater effort to protect their posts, and drew the wrong kind of attention to our model members. But it's still there for people to read in order to make a judgement call about how much public exposure they can accept.
Second, we have answered the charge that - by providing support to our members who wish to clean up their video trails - we are somehow suffering from a "White Knight" syndrome, by taking the CGN admins and male members out of the equation wherever possible. So as you correctly noted, we do post useful information in public on Submitting DMCA Notices, and keep that information current by systematically updating it. But also we post and update information on the pirate forums (i.e. forum addresses, pirate member nicks) in the Models areas of CGN, so that our model members know where to look if they want to monitor and remove any of their private shows that have been posted, or avoid taking the major pirate players into private or their group shows whenever possible.
All of these steps were meant to empower our model members or our guest readers with the information they need to "police the pirate forums" for themselves - without a third party getting overly involved in the process or in their personal business decisions either... lol.
Thanks
UL
CGN Global Moderator
Last edited by Cyrano22; 03-16-2011 at 10:42 AM. Reason: GRAMMAR and Style
Am I the only one who thinks that "Romanian model" speaks English awfully well, and has a rather extensive vocabulary for someone who:
1) English is a second language
2) Got "tricked" into getting naked on the internet by some big bad studio?



She wonders how much he'd pay to see her innards, what it is guys think girls are hiding so that they always want to see them in every place.
- Virginie Despentes,
All I wanna do is get my pussy sucked / count a million bucks in the back of an armored truck.
- Lil' Kim, "Suck My Dick"
Romanians Do do English rather well..
Read your own thread on Trafficking for comments from the other side of the camming network.
You guys are as good as the abolitionist feminists for invalidating political incorrect points of view that prove inconvenient..
And thanks as always S&G, for missing the point because it was a tad "too simplistic."
But no problem. "Ur board, ur Rules."
I am done..and outta ur hair, Lovely Ladies.
UL



Not even gonna start.
She wonders how much he'd pay to see her innards, what it is guys think girls are hiding so that they always want to see them in every place.
- Virginie Despentes,
All I wanna do is get my pussy sucked / count a million bucks in the back of an armored truck.
- Lil' Kim, "Suck My Dick"
Fine by me S&G.. but the Romanians also Do French, German, Italian and Spanish as well as they do English..They are a major "country of origin" for both sex workers and cam models.
I would take them more seriously than you do me, since they are the competition that's eating your "breakfast, lunch and dinner"
Take a look here -and if you don't read Romanian, Google translate will give you the gist.
http://www.adultvideochat.ro/forum/s...ree-t8943.html
You guys might be surprised to find how much common ground you share with your professional colleagues over there.
UL
Last edited by Cyrano22; 03-17-2011 at 03:40 AM. Reason: Tone
ohhhhh yes, I see now, thanks so much for explaining loveI needed someone to break it down for me and put me in line about half-assed anti-but-inadvertently-supporting-trafficking male 'activists'.
muah <3
Mmmm, and that layer of condescension really got me going too... I am so glad you're finding my two CGN comments and taking the time to correct me. Spank me harder sir for getting so out of line - I want to feel the throbbing ache of your swift hand when I wake up in the morning. Stuff your fingers in my mouth to really muffle my protests, silence me like I know you want to.. make me your parrot baby, I want you to hear only what you want... mmmmm
I can picture you now, panting, your breathing getting more labored as you thumb through your thesaurus, use scare quotes, and giving me a head to toe hot oil massage of patronizing... mind-numblingly... sweet....bliss. I'd love to trace my fingers all over that bulge growing in your pants. I bet your precum is sticky enough for me to use as eyelash glue, hunh baby?
Save me sir, I need you. Without you I am lost. A fool. A wideeyed bambi who needs my profession and all of its participants (consensual and not) explained me to. Women are so silly aren't we? Use simpler language too my sweet, you know I don't read or think for myself. I just stuff my orifices and hope to god someone will save me from myself. mmmmm, spank that booty harder baby.... I am so glad you're here... oh yes....
Let me get the tip of that angry veiny entitlement cock into my mouth, trace it with my silly-tongue, drool my bimbo-spit all over it while rubbing my overused clit through my lace panties... so hard and urgently. God that cock feels fucking average and so fucking trite and commonplace, but any cock is new to me because I love any dick baby, I just do...
you still reading that thesaurus? I hope you are rolling your eyes and biting your lip with every word I utter, I know you don't listen to us 'professionals' .... mmmm I am just one nasty mindless girl to even try hunh baby?
Want to put it in? Mmmm yes, slide it in... just like that... so good, Sir, you're so so so good to me, to all of us.... without you we would be without any moral or intellectual compass. I know you love it when I thank you like this sir, you know you deserve it baby, all of it.
Pound baby, pound me with your ego-cock
oh
oh
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oh god
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oh yes
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oh sexism yes
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oh oh
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oh yes fuck women's voices
oh
oh
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oh god
oh yes
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drain your privilege-cum-heavy balls inside this oh oh
oh
oh yea
oh of course I don't know what I am talking about oh oh
oh oh
OH YES, YESSS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
^ Can't.
Stop.
Laughing.


I think you are all being a bit harsh here. There are undoubtedly plenty of cam girls out there who don't have clue what they are getting themselves into and are being exploited by their studio pimps. Surely any information that is out there that can help such people cannot be a bad thing, regardless of the motives of those supplying the information? Just because you don't feel exploited, don't need a 'White night' to protect you and are a 'professional' doesn't mean everyone in this industry is. Besides it is not for us to judge the motives of others just as you would not wish people to judge you for your choice of job.
If people want to act as 'White Knights' then that is their choice in the same way as it is your choice to work as a cam girl. The pirates are out there and they tend to be much more technically savvy than many of the girls whose material they are pirating. It is an issue that needs to be confronted not brushed under the carpet. If people want to do that on behalf of those who do not have the resources and knowhow to defend themselves then I fail to see how that is a bad thing.



She wonders how much he'd pay to see her innards, what it is guys think girls are hiding so that they always want to see them in every place.
- Virginie Despentes,
All I wanna do is get my pussy sucked / count a million bucks in the back of an armored truck.
- Lil' Kim, "Suck My Dick"
Damn, sexandgrammar beat me to it.
Roast...be my wife. I beg of thee.




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