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    I worked a a club here in Vegas before they closed and did horribly at first but wonderful once they paid cabs like crazy and did promotions.

    Now the club is re-opened. They are paying cabs (standard rate 20-30 a head) but are not doing much advertising and are get this TURNING AWAY BUSINESS!!! They will turn away parties if they don't have enough girls for them. I get repeated messages on my phone from the management asking me to come in. For example Friday night at 11pm " we have 5 girls and 3xs as many clients, we just had to turn away a party of 8 because we don't have enough girls and a party of 4 left because once again not enough girls." Also I worked twice since the re-opening first night NOTHING and second night took home 400 in 7 hours.

    My question is this : Would you work for a club that not only charged a mandatory tip out (15%) but was turning away clients?? It is a beautiful set up and the managers for the most part are nice but in my 6 years working in this town as an entertainer I have never seen clients being turned away because "we don't have enough girls tonight"

    What would you do ladies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XAnastasiaX View Post
    I worked a a club here in Vegas before they closed and did horribly at first but wonderful once they paid cabs like crazy and did promotions.

    Now the club is re-opened. They are paying cabs (standard rate 20-30 a head) but are not doing much advertising and are get this TURNING AWAY BUSINESS!!! They will turn away parties if they don't have enough girls for them. I get repeated messages on my phone from the management asking me to come in. For example Friday night at 11pm " we have 5 girls and 3xs as many clients, we just had to turn away a party of 8 because we don't have enough girls and a party of 4 left because once again not enough girls." Also I worked twice since the re-opening first night NOTHING and second night took home 400 in 7 hours.

    My question is this : Would you work for a club that not only charged a mandatory tip out (15%) but was turning away clients?? It is a beautiful set up and the managers for the most part are nice but in my 6 years working in this town as an entertainer I have never seen clients being turned away because "we don't have enough girls tonight"

    What would you do ladies?
    Hi Anastasia,

    That's crazy.

    Which club is that? $400 for 7 hr shift -- Bilkini?

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    No hun its topless. We don't have any bikni clubs here. That was also a Friday night during a major convention. The club had ZERO clients before 11pm and then about 30 after midnight. I sold a few VIP dances but it was grab city ( I currently work in a zero touch club)

    I am also used to making at least 300 take home in about 5-6 hours at my home club.

    Vegas is tough and I can't see why an un-established club is turning away clients???

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    I guess it kind of makes sense. They want to make sure customers have a good time by having a good girl to customer ratio. And I'm guessing by turning people away it makes it seem exclusive. Kind of like the line to get in at a night club, so people hear about the great girl to guy ratio and how hard it is to get in and they think it must be a great place.

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    It doesn't make sense. You NEVER turn away a client unless he's an asshole.

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    That is stupid. The guys would be buying drinks and watching stage shows. Its not like they each need a dancer on the lap the whole time they are there. I wonder if it is more about turning away the cab because they don't want to pay the $20-30 a head fee when then club isn't hoppin. Even then, a typical customer spends that much at the very minimum so it does not seem like good business to turn them away.

    I wonder if they own more than one club, and maybe they are sending the customers to the other club?

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    No they only own this one club. I could see what you mean about not wanting to pay the cabs but where this club is located that is the ONLY way they are going to get ANY clients in the place.

    The owner is a total sweetheart but his other businesses ( not clubs) in town have all flopped within a year and I would hate to see this one do it too but it seems if they keep this up they will.

    The place is very jeckel and hyde in nature. One shift I went in and it was you didn't have to work 6 hours or tip anyone unless you wanted to, nice managment, no dj's on my ass to get on stage ( they have at most 10 clients some nights), next time I go in NO MORE FREE TOURS VIP IS MEMBERS ONLY area the guys have to select the services from a menu and be escorted to the VIP lounge by the host with the dancer of choice. Next time I go in its a mandatory 15% tip out and rude managers. It is something different everytime but one thing they have not changed turning away clients when the ratio is off.

    I had to ask the GM why he was doing this " It's simple gentlemans club 101 30 clients and 10 girls you have to turn guys away they are here to see tits and ass" I told him that they might buy bottles and why not let the girls who are there make money " If we have too many cients and not enough girls they leave they are not here to drink they are here to get dances and see tits".

    They finally did a taxi promotion today. If the cab drivers txt a certain number prior to bringing in a party they get an additional fee on top of the drop. This is the ONLY advertising this club has done.

    I am going to my home club tonight might try this other club thursday. However if I get another phone call or txt telling me about them turning girls away ( a horrid business move) I am going to speak up!!

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    Default Re: vegas club turning away patron

    Well maybe this is a blessing in disguise. Maybe there won't be morons just hanging out not spending money and just watching tv. This seems to be a huge problem in most clubs nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XAnastasiaX View Post
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    I had to ask the GM why he was doing this " It's simple gentlemans club 101 30 clients and 10 girls you have to turn guys away they are here to see tits and ass" I told him that they might buy bottles and why not let the girls who are there make money " If we have too many cients and not enough girls they leave they are not here to drink they are here to get dances and see tits".

    That is retarded. 10 girls is plenty to entertain 30 guys. I've worked at clubs before where it was normal to only have 10 or 12 girls working on a saturday.

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    Yeah they sent me another message last night saying how they had a party walk out because no girls and how they sent away a party of 10 because again not enough girls. I finally had it and said

    " You know the reason girls are not showing up is because you are turning away business, the club is in a horrid location and its not like the guy wants or needs to be harassed every 5 seconds. You will never have a perfect ratio its a strip club/bar that's impossible. If the dancers know going in that potential money is going to be take away they will go someplace else, that is better established with more knowledgeable management."

    I know it may sound rude but someone finally had to say something. Turning away business is ridiculous.

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    My hubby says I may not be able to work there again. Sorry but if speaking my mind is a problem I don't want to be there.

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    i wouldn't work there. if they want more girls, they need to lure them in with free house/tip outs or maybe pay them something for every shift but still require tip outs. something. but don't turn away custies. that's stupid. if they wonder why there aren't more girls, tell em a high roller took 10 of them to the champagne room or something.
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    Which club is this? So I can put it on my list of clubs not to work at.

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    Ok.

    They are NOT turning away customers. It's a bullshit line to get you to come in. I've seen it a thousand times. Do not believe everything a manager tells you, lol.

    ..So your whole premise is based on something that isn't really happening. I'm sure that it's true that they don't have enough girls,however.
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    ^ totally didn't think of that, but you're probably right.
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    The club is totally dead. I went by on a friday night and it looked busy outside so I went in ( mind you this is during a convention in vegas at around midnight) upon arrival I realized the club had about 15 customers and 10 girls ON A FRIDAY NIGHT PRIME TIME!! That really bothered me. I don't want to be elbow to asshole but you should have a steady amount of business on a night like that, all the other clubs were packed even the dive by my house had a full parking lot and club.

    They are doing incentives for entertainers now. Free house fee until the 31st of December on Weekdays and 1/2 off weekends. They are really hurting. The club I sometimes go to now may be a little dirty (tits and ass touching is the norm) but we are always busy especially on the weekends.

    The clean clean club I work at has been SUPER dead with alot of the business being guys who want to just grab a beer for 2 hours and nothing else.

    It all comes down to how management wants to do business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XAnastasiaX View Post

    I had to ask the GM why he was doing this " It's simple gentlemans club 101 30 clients and 10 girls you have to turn guys away they are here to see tits and ass" I told him that they might buy bottles and why not let the girls who are there make money " If we have too many cients and not enough girls they leave they are not here to drink they are here to get dances and see tits".
    i danced for over 20 years and i have to say that statement is the most asinine one I've ever heard! turning guys away? no wonder all this persons business have failed! 10 girls would have been plenty to hold a small crowd. even a larger crowd would buy drinks and stay for a bit. stripclub 101 wtf? it obvious this guy has no clue. i wouldnt go back.
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    OMG Anastasia, you texted me about this club and I went in to check it out. I worked 3 nights and I will NEVER set foot in that shithole again.

    It's a BEAUTIFUL club. Honestly, one of the most gorgeous and well-maintained clubs in the city, if not THE most. However the way this place is run is absolutely disgusting.

    They make a HUGE deal about how this is a clean club. No touching the girls AT ALL on stage or on the main floor - and yes, they enforce this. That all goes out the damned window once you get upstairs. I was told in the dressing room by several dancers and the housemom that upstairs, all bets were off. I confronted one of the managers about this and he sort of laughed and said, "Sure, we have to be clean on the main floor. But you know how the business is - when men pay for VIP - they're OBVIOUSLY paying for more than just an hour of dancing. And honey, I don't mean champagne."

    I walked upstairs to leave while 3 VIP rooms were going on, and I saw the full-blown brothel in action. It was horrifying.

    Management is rude and underhanded. The girls are more backstabbing than the girls at Sapphire or Rhino. One girl in particular who I won't name is sort of "Queen Bee" and damn, is this girl a bitch. My friends, who are GORGEOUS girls, were with me this particular night. We were seated by request in a VIP area. We came in as a FAVOR in response to one of the many text messages from management (we were texted specifically by name and asked to come in because the 4 girls that were there weren't appealing to the three clients that were there and were threatening to leave) - and I made it clear we would come in and talk to these clients, but if no money was getting made within the hour - we were outta there and back to our home club where they pay above average for cabbies and ALWAYS have customers.

    This girl - who was ALREADY TURNED DOWN BY THESE CUSTOMERS - tried THREE SEPERATE TIMES to kick us off the table. She pissed the customers off, and when I finally took her aside and (in the nicest way possible) told her to FUCK OFF, she went to her pet manager, PAID HIM, and had him escort her to the table and ASK ONE OF US TO LEAVE. I left - the customers weren't responding well to me anyway - and I threw a SHIT FIT. I nearly lost my job for "hustling a customer when I wasn't welcome at the table." I lost my cool pretty fast, let the GM and Owner know EXACTLY what I thought about their business practices and their club, went downstairs - and took my girls out with me. The customers wound up leaving. There's more to it, but seriously? Nearly losing my job for DOING MY JOB?

    This club is a joke. The Jeckel and Hyde nature described about their practices toward customers and girls (VIP tours, tip outs, housefees, etc) is absolutely how this place works. The guy who runs the joint seems to have NO idea how a gentlemen's club should work. The managers run a brothel behind his back. The girls are awful. Since I left, 3 other girls from that club have showed up at my home club - and they haven't left because, OMG! MY HOME CLUB DOESN'T TURN AWAY CUSTOMERS AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THEIR PRACTICES! We actually make MONEY!!

    If anyone is curious what the name of this club is - send me a PM and I'll let you know so you can STEER CLEAR! I hope this club goes under, and quickly. Perpetuating the idea that sex in the champagne room is the standard in Vegas, letting girls pay to remove other girls from tables, turning away customers because your "ratios are off", and being inconsistent with your treatment of dancers (without whom, you have NO CLUB AT ALL) is not good business practice and NOT what we need in this industry. In Vegas, it's enough of an uphill battle.
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