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    I needed to rant about this...I just don't get it... why do some guys spend so much $$ on the most drugged-up, strung-out girls? Do they think it'll be easier to take advantage of the girl? Does it help them objectify dancers more when they act like fucked-up idiots and help men divorce themselves from thinking of the dancer as a person? Is pity a factor?

    One girl I know, a newbie dancer, is some sort of weird zombie-robot hybrid. She wanders around the club, sloooowly (unfortunate for anyone who happens to be walking behind her trying to get by), will walk up to you and stand and stare for a few awkward moments until you give in and say something, will sit with a customer and not say a word for like, an uncomfortable amount of time... like any semblance of personality she might've once had has been completely dulled by pills or booze. I constantly wanna snap my fingers in front of her eyes just to make sure the lights are still on in there.

    Another girl is already fucking bananas, but takes something (uppers?), so it only takes one drink to send her over the edge to where she talks a mile a minute about absolutely nothing of any interest to anyone, in a super thick screechy Southern accent. Really, when I'm sitting at a table w/ her and a customer I have to get up and leave, she makes me so anxious, and neither me nor the customer can get a word in anywhere. Sometimes the conversation centers around her gross medical issues. Hawt. I mean she's attractive, but there are plenty of other attractive girls where I work who have basic social skills to boot.

    Both these girls make good $, and I just can't understand why. I mean I feel for people who have issues w/ addiction, I really do, I just wonder if customers sniff out the addicts and dancers with LOTS and LOTS of problems that they have NO problem telling everyone within earshot all about, and spend on them while harboring some kinda shitty ulterior motives. Or if they're thinking, "wow this girl really needs my $ more than these other girls!"

    Or are customers really that dumb and just can't tell when some dancers are on pills, heroin, or coke, and really just think that they have a "quirky" or "shy" personality? Personally, I find hard drugs and prescription abuse to be a major turn-off.

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    The zombie chick = pity case. Guys spend money because they feel awkward just sitting there with her, so instead they get her to dance. Or they feel like she's new and has no social skills, so they want to be the 'only guy' to give her money.

    The spazz chick = Guys find her entertaining and party-ish. Guys who have been drinking perceive her to be in more of a party mood than the sober girls, and thus want to spend time with her. They may also be so desperate to get her to shut up that they will buy dances.

    Just my own personal theories.

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    Maybe you're spending too much time watching the other dancers instead of focusing on the customer. I mean this in a helpful way. I used to sit down and go "why is so and so making bank and I'm begging guys for dances and they are just being jerks to me" Now I just hit guys nonstop all night and don't have time to notice the other girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    The zombie chick = pity case. Guys spend money because they feel awkward just sitting there with her, so instead they get her to dance.
    This. A lot of guys seem to feel bad asking girls to go away... so they'll buy a dance from girls who sit there long enough just to get them to go away.
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    Because junkies have more on their plate than sober dancers. They have this desperate enthusiasm that masks their need for a fix, trust me.

    My ex roomie, the heroin addict used to BANK at Rhino. I would have $500, she'd have 800. I remember her boyfriend, whose name was John, would answer the door for the other "Johns".

    Another was a girl that I worked with at KO's and occasionally TD's. Pretty girl and a mad hustler. She would lament that she "only" had 300 after 2 hours. -_- She would leave work promptly at midnight to go meet her dealer.

    Or....me. When I needed money for coke I got it. I would make 6-8 and blow half of it on "soda".
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    Quote Originally Posted by goreantx View Post
    Maybe you're spending too much time watching the other dancers instead of focusing on the customer. I mean this in a helpful way. I used to sit down and go "why is so and so making bank and I'm begging guys for dances and they are just being jerks to me" Now I just hit guys nonstop all night and don't have time to notice the other girls.
    Oh don't get me wrong, I've been hustling my ass off lately to try and make any money I can and being attentive w/ any customer I actually have the chance to sit down beside, considering I work dayshift and it's been slower than ever lately. I guess the consequence of that is that all the dancers end up seeing and hearing each other more than we'd like, and often know how much everyone else is making, who's selling rooms, etc. I guess I'm just curious because

    1) I'm wondering what it is exactly that is making girls w/ certain unappealing characteristics (nodding off randomly, track marks, erratic behavior/speech, lack of coordination, zombified behavior, & other characteristics indicative of drug use) become appealing to customers, or

    2) If these guys are really just scumbags who wanna pick out the most "fucked-up girl" to see what he can do with/to her, or

    3) Customers are oblivious

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post

    The spazz chick = Guys find her entertaining and party-ish. Guys who have been drinking perceive her to be in more of a party mood than the sober girls, and thus want to spend time with her.
    Good point. Though with some girls like this it definitely crosses the line from "whoah this chick is super fun and bubbly" to "hey is your 'friend' on crack or something? She needs to calm down"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SerenaSin View Post
    2) If these guys are really just scumbags who wanna pick out the most "fucked-up girl" to see what he can do with/to her
    Ding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SerenaSin View Post
    Good point. Though with some girls like this it definitely crosses the line from "whoah this chick is super fun and bubbly" to "hey is your 'friend' on crack or something? She needs to calm down"
    Amazingly, I've found that 99% of guys--drunk OR sober--read this as "PARTY CHICK" and not as "CLEARLY A CRACKHEAD." I'm not even kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    Because junkies have more on their plate than sober dancers. They have this desperate enthusiasm that masks their need for a fix, trust me.
    I think this is the best explanation I've read so far, yet I don't understand how a drug addicts desperation is SO much more effective than the desperation of a girl who badly needs to make 300 dollars to pay rent or buy food for her kid.

    I always see the drug addicts banking and the girls with equally serious needs not making anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    I think this is the best explanation I've read so far, yet I don't understand how a drug addicts desperation is SO much more effective than the desperation of a girl who badly needs to make 300 dollars to pay rent or buy food for her kid.

    I always see the drug addicts banking and the girls with equally serious needs not making anything.
    A major component in the druggie arsenal is guess! THAT'S RIGHT EXTRAS!!! My ex roomie used to give extras OTC and ITC. I was an addict but I never crossed that line. I didn't need to. my ex husband was a dealer, so I always had as much of it as I wanted. Of course 4 years later I'm feeling the effects of a deviated septum with this cold. -_-

    Also I'd like to add that a majority of the money these poor girls make is pity money. People feel sorry for them. The reason I say this is because before I left Albuquerque I bumped into a regular from the Rhino at KO's. I hadn't seen him since 2006. He appraised me and said "You look good now that you have some meat on you". We made small talk and he got some dances. Before he left he told me "You know I like you now more than before. The reason I gave you money before was because I felt sorry for you and the habit that was slowly killing you".

    I was speechless. But I'm glad. I can't stand pity.

    That's why I'm not so quick to jump on the crucify-the-drug-user bandwagon. I have nothing against recreational drug use in moderation. But I also know what it is to come down from a coke binge, licking CD cases and tearing open baggies.

    I am NOT a perfect saint however. Those of you who know me have seen my posts regarding, er "different body" types and um "unique" faces. (Notably PBS cases)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    A major component in the druggie arsenal is guess! THAT'S RIGHT EXTRAS!!! My ex roomie used to give extras OTC and ITC. I was an addict but I never crossed that line. I didn't need to. my ex husband was a dealer, so I always had as much of it as I wanted. Of course 4 years later I'm feeling the effects of a deviated septum with this cold. -_-
    yeah all of the extras girls at my club are druggies. ugh...nasty...anyway...

    I know for a fact though that some of the druggies don't do any extras. I know a girl who USED to do extras OTC but not anymore and she gets all fucked up and can talk ANY guy into a lap dance doped up and nodding out.

    this one cokehead girl will seriously go up to a guy for like 2 minutes and next thing you know you see her head off into the champagne room. I can tell she's not an extras girl because I've watched her talk to guys. one thing I've noticed about the extras girls is they're always whispering into the customers' ears. the cokehead girl maintains a normal conversational distance and none of the bouncers have ever spotted her doing extras. I don't know what she says to the guys but she makes herself seem appealing somehow even though she's ugly as hell with TONS of cellulite and puts on makeup like a 9 year old. I know she's not doing drugs in the champagne rooms because our club has a zero drug tolerance policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    yeah all of the extras girls at my club are druggies. ugh...nasty...anyway...

    I know for a fact though that some of the druggies don't do any extras. I know a girl who USED to do extras OTC but not anymore and she gets all fucked up and can talk ANY guy into a lap dance doped up and nodding out.

    this one cokehead girl will seriously go up to a guy for like 2 minutes and next thing you know you see her head off into the champagne room. I can tell she's not an extras girl because I've watched her talk to guys. one thing I've noticed about the extras girls is they're always whispering into the customers' ears. the cokehead girl maintains a normal conversational distance and none of the bouncers have ever spotted her doing extras. I don't know what she says to the guys but she makes herself seem appealing somehow even though she's ugly as hell with TONS of cellulite and puts on makeup like a 9 year old. I know she's not doing drugs in the champagne rooms because our club has a zero drug tolerance policy.
    That's what bathroom stalls and long nails are for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    That's what bathroom stalls and long nails are for.
    yeah of course all of the dancers know that the girls do drugs in the bathroom but what I mean is I know they're not getting the CRs because they're doing drugs with the customers. if they got caught on camera doing lines on the couches they'd be fired instantly so it makes me wonder how the non-extras druggies make bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xGigi View Post
    yeah of course all of the dancers know that the girls do drugs in the bathroom but what I mean is I know they're not getting the CRs because they're doing drugs with the customers. if they got caught on camera doing lines on the couches they'd be fired instantly so it makes me wonder how the non-extras druggies make bank.
    It's the Druggie Jedi Mind Trick methinks!
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    In all seriousness it's probably pity.....or they just want them to go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    In all seriousness it's probably pity.....or they just want them to go away.
    guys never give me money when they want me to go away maybe if I act more annoying I'll bank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SerenaSin View Post
    I needed to rant about this...I just don't get it... why do some guys spend so much $$ on the most drugged-up, strung-out girls? Do they think it'll be easier to take advantage of the girl? Does it help them objectify dancers more when they act like fucked-up idiots and help men divorce themselves from thinking of the dancer as a person? Is pity a factor?
    are these rhetorical questions? the answer is yes to all of them, just depends on the guy. some guys don't like these girls, but enough do, for different reasons, that these girls can make lots of money. some guys like girls lucid, but dumb. fewer like them lucid, and smart.

    people have all sorts of reasons for doing things. i've seen fucked up junkies make bank too. in a lot of cases, the guys don't even notice that she's fucked up. they just think she's fun. she's naughty. she likes being groped and giving extras. sure, you can finger her when she's onstage nodding out, she's a dirty girl. she loves that shit. the other girls are prudes, that's all. a lot of guys think this way irl too. often when a dude complains about his drugged up ex who cheated on him, he can't even understand that the relationship would've have existed in the first place if she hadn't been on drugs. lol. most guys see what they want to see.

    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Amazingly, I've found that 99% of guys--drunk OR sober--read this as "PARTY CHICK" and not as "CLEARLY A CRACKHEAD." I'm not even kidding.
    yes, this.

    she isn't dirty because she's on drugs. she's on drugs because she's fun and loves to party.

    also, note that drugged up girls just come across as stupid. a lot of custies love stupid girls.
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    ^ Sad but true.

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    IMO, if they are clearly strung out...how are they BANKING?? To me, banking means having a decent amount of money set aside for when you want it or need it at any giving time, not easy come....easy go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by she sells sanctuary View Post
    also, note that drugged up girls just come across as stupid. a lot of custies love stupid girls.
    No kidding. I can hold a highly academic conversation just fine but most guys just start drooling hundred dollar bills when I break out the ditz. I just have to mumble stupid words like "That's so hawt" or "hehe I love to fuck". Whhhaaddeevvaa.
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    It's true....men love em young,dumb, and thirsty for cum!
    Or the "No hablas ingles" card works. one of my friends speaks excellent English but she will play dumb to get those suckers in the CR. It works!
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    Curious, how many of these drugged up girls are on X?? (never worked at a club)..

    I saw that video a while back and the girl at the Miami club looked like she was rolling pretty damn hard.

    I can imagine how a guy would either LOVVEEEE that or HAATEE that. lol.

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    Yup, men love the tragic stripper stereotype. Whenever I pretend to be ditzy and drunk, they eat it up. It makes them feel better about themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinrox View Post
    IMO, if they are clearly strung out...how are they BANKING?? To me, banking means having a decent amount of money set aside for when you want it or need it at any giving time, not easy come....easy go....
    banking means making a lot of money. back in the day, banking was way more common, and girls who were used to making a grand a night had no problem spending every bit of it because they knew they'd make another grand the next time they worked. now when girls bank, they're more likely to save it, because it's so rare and special. lol.
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