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    Default Guys that just TALK about doing a CR

    For some reason, I always seem to encounter guys that will only TALK about going into VIP with me. They bring it up and say stuff like "yeah I really want to go into VIP with you" and so then when I try to close the sale and bring the waitress, they beat around the subject and never actually do. These also tend to be the guys that talk about how much money they have but at the same time are really CHEAP about everything!
    Does anybody else have this happen to them all the time? And any suggestions for actually closing the sale?

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    DON'T let them change the subject. be like "oh a champagne room? sure I'd LOVE to take you into the champagne room. let me freshen up real quick!" and then run and grab the waitress. be aggressive.

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    Oh this happened to me yesterday. Even the manager mentioned how the guy is all talk-no spend. Most of the time, I've found they WONT spend a dime but will say they will to keep you sitting there. My advice is just to move on, make money, go back if he's still around and check if he's "ready now" (which he wont be) and if not, just walk away. They're really the most annoying, the time wasters.

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    If I've tried more than three times to close the deal and the guy is still holding back... I consider it safe to assume he isn't actually going to buy the dance. Maybe it's because he never wanted it in the first place and just wanted free company... or because he doesn't actually have the money. But if they're just changing the topic/avoiding actually saying "no" in any form... and just keep trying to put it off... they're probably broke, imo.
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    A huge indicator that a guy is jerking you around is if he avoids direct questions. If you ask if he is ready, and instead of asking more about the CR or even giving an excuse, he just pretends he didn't hear you- he did, he just wants your time for free. He knows from experience that he can string girls along if he pretends he is going to spend money. If this happens more than once, I am usually gone before he can finish his sentence.

    These are some of my least favorite customers, because there is some deliberation to it. He obviously knows we are trying to make a sale, but he doesn't even respect us enough to say no so we can move on. He just wants to use the most effective trick he can to make us waste our time with him.

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    the more a guy talks about his insane money the more likely for him to be broke. i met really really rich guys. they dont talk about money because they dont feel the need to convince you they have it. they know they have it and will spend without boasting about how much money they have.

    great indicator of a cheap guy. i met a few that would bring up private shows just to keep me hanging and sitting with him longer than i normally would. they know the game and know they dont have the money to take for a dance but to keep you there to waste your time they will talk to you about dances just to lead you on and make you think theyre high rollers so you spend a great deal of time with them.

    i think its mean and rude and if i know a customer is gonna act like that i notify the other girls so he has no choice but to spend if he wants ANYONE at his table
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    Aggh I hate guys like this! I swear they target new/naive girls because they don't know any better and will waste tons of time with them. When I was brand new I got these guys pretty often, as I got more experienced and aggressive, I learned not to bother with their BS and get straight to the point. I get a lot of these guys as a cam girl now...but at least it's easier to ignore/ditch them on cam lol.

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    time wasters suck but there's always the possibility that he MIGHT take you into the CR. be patient, but use your sense.

    but I agree with anouk. my first month dancing I met a guy who told me he came in every week and bought dances from ALL of the dancers every time he came in and he told me that he'd buy a 3 hour champagne room with me if I kept him company. I stuck to his side like glue the entire night not realizing that he never intended to get the CR and he never bought dances from anyone. he was easy to talk to though and I was nervous going up to the other customers but at the end of the night I was really pissed at him.

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    ^^ i know, i hate that! its like what can you do?
    i was pissed at him and myself for lack of common sense
    i learnt to 'accidentally' knock a drink in their lap if they pull that shit, though they deserve worse
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    Default Re: Guys that just TALK about doing a CR

    if they talk about money, they're probably broke.

    if they talk about dances or a room, they're either interested in going right this minute, or they're full of shit and want to see how much you'll "work for it" to get them to spend their non-existant money on you. or maybe they have the money and just hate strippers/women. either way, not worth the effort.

    when i first started, i'd have guys say they'd come back some other time to see me. like they'd ask if i was working on a certain day, then promise to show up. and they never, ever, ever did. now, even if they really meant it, i don't care. i work when i want to work, and they can show up or not. i'm not holding my breath for some dude who went out of his way to promise to spend money on me when i hadn't even been hustling him in the first place.
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    Ay yi yi! I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one! I think you are all probably spot-on about these guys being full of shit and are just trying to get me to spend time with them for free by talking about how they're going to spend money. I'll practice "accidentally" spilling drinks on them HAHA!! These guys really are huge time wasters UGH!

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    theyre no different than guys who talk about the sex theyre not getting they claim they are or guys who just talk shit all the time about everything! guys talk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by she sells sanctuary View Post
    they'd ask if i was working on a certain day, then promise to show up. and they never, ever, ever did.
    I HATE THIS. I've only ever had ONE guy come back to get a dance from me and it was this obnoxious 18 year old brat with his dad's credit card which would have been fine if it was a black amex . . . but it wasn't. he bought one night and then bragged the whole night about being on some university soccer or baseball team...I forget. anyway, lol...

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    the golden rule of screenwriting i feel, applies to these situations also

    SHOW, dont TELL
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    I hate those guys. Tell them that if they're not ready to go now, that you're going to go do a lap around the room/fix your make-up/hair/change your outfit/freshen up and come get them in 10/15/20 minutes. It works about half the time right away because they're like "no no, lets go now" because they don't want someone else to steal you or you get them later because they really just did want another beer first, and half the time they're time wasters so its better you wasted less time with them anyway.

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    Time Wasters. Vomit.

    When they pull this shit I'll take them by the hand and start walking them towards the VIP.. if they "want to wait a few minutes" I tell them I'm far too horny to wait... if they don't come with me after that .. I give up and move on. My time is to valuable to waste on broke assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyLynne View Post
    theyre no different than guys who talk about the sex theyre not getting they claim they are or guys who just talk shit all the time about everything! guys talk!
    if it's slow, i'll listen to them and ask a bunch of questions, act like i totally believe them. then when they turn me down for a dance, i tell them that guys who tell such bad lies never get dances anyways. the look they give me is priceless.

    and one time about a month ago a youngish guy kept talking to me, insisting i should stop dancing and let him take care of me, even though he had a hot girlfriend he loved completely and didn't want to date me (so what did he want exactly?). he offered to pay me for my time to prove he was for real, took out some 20s, tossed them on the table, and i grabbed them immediately. then he kept telling me to give them back and that i was such a greedy stripper bitch to take them, and how he'd spend so much more on me if i gave them back. omg omg omg. it was sooooooooo funny. i offered to give him dances if he wanted to get his money's worth, but he insisted that he respected me too much to see me naked. it was one of the funniest moments of my career. he also repeated insisted that i only did it because i had kids and or some other cliche. it was great. mostly because i got money. if i hadn't, it wouldn't be funny at all.
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    Are you talking about customers that haven't had the right close yet?

    Or trying to close a turnip?

    I confused.




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