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    (snip)"The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is poised to add the Internet to its portfolio of regulated industries. The agency's chairman, Julius Genachowski, announced Wednesday that he circulated draft rules he says will "preserve the freedom and openness of the Internet." No statement could better reflect the gulf between the rhetoric and the reality of Obama administration policies.

    With a straight face, Mr. Genachowski suggested that government red tape will increase the "freedom" of online services that have flourished because bureaucratic busybodies have been blocked from tinkering with the Web. Ordinarily, it would be appropriate at this point to supply an example from the proposed regulations illustrating the problem. Mr. Genachowski's draft document has over 550 footnotes and is stamped "non-public, for internal use only" to ensure nobody outside the agency sees it until the rules are approved in a scheduled Dec. 21 vote. So much for "openness."

    The issue of "net neutrality" is nothing new, but the increasing popularity of online movie streaming services like Netflix have highlighted an area of potential concern. When someone watches a film over the Internet, especially in high definition, the maximum available capacity of the user's connection is used. Think, for example, of the problems that would arise at the water works if everyone decided to turn on their faucets and take a shower simultaneously. Internet providers are beginning to see the same strain on their networks.

    In some cases, heavy use of this sort slows the Web experience for everyone sharing the same lines. That has prompted some cable Internet providers to consider either charging the heavy users more or limiting access to the "problematic" services. Of course, if cinema buffs find themselves cut off from their favorite service, they're going to be mad. If companies don't act, they're just as likely to find irate customers who don't want their experience bogged down by others.

    It's not clear why the FCC thinks it needs to intervene in a situation with obvious market solutions. Companies that impose draconian tolls or block services will lose customers. Existing laws already offer a number of protections against anti-competitive behavior"(snip)

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    The apparent 'gist' of the FCC's new regulatory efforts is the rapidly increasing burden that 'streaming video' is placing on the US internet backbone. From an official standpoint the FCC is attempting to exert new regulatory authority on the internet in general, and on 'streaming video' and other ultra-high bandwidth requirement internet applications specifically, under the premise that such regulation is now necessary to avoid future systemic degradation of internet service to ALL US internet users.

    The leaked FCC notes don't specifically say how they plan to reduce ultra-high bandwidth internet activities. However, there is a strong hint that new fees / taxes will be leveed on high speed end user internet connections ( i.e. T1, Cable Modems etc. ) as well as new fees / taxes being leveed on ultra-high bandwidth internet servers / content providers ( i.e. NetFlix, Webcams ). There is also a strong hint that internet service providers will be allowed to selectively block access by their customers to domains that consume / require very high amounts of bandwidth in order to avoid degradation of service to customers connecting to other lower bandwidth requirement domains.

    This is a particularly damaging scenario for Adult Webcams, since it would be very easy for a Time Warner / Comcast Cable or an AT&T broadband to simply block access to every Adult Webcam IP for their customers entirely, or to block access for customers who don't agree to pay a much higher monthly internet 'ultra-high bandwidth' access fee. After all, if this ultimately comes down to a 'fight' over bandwidth rationing, there is absolutely no question that Adult Webcams and other high bandwidth adult content are going to get 'thrown overboard' before NetFlix ! From a political standpoint, forcing regular internet customers to give up streaming Netflix movies at full speed in order to provide Adult streams with an 'equal share' of bandwidth is an impossible sell.

    And from a vested interest standpoint, allowing Time Warner / Comcast to block access to both Neflix and Adult Webcams / other high bandwidth adult content would undoubtedly increase the sales of pay-per-view regular content and adult content that their own cable systems are attempting to sell to their customers ! The 'gold foil hat' crowd would tell you that THIS is one of the actual reasons behind the new FCC regulations.

    As there won't be any additional 'public airings' of the FCC's proposed new regulations, we'll find out the specifics after the FCC's internal 'vote' establishing new regulations takes place on December 21st.

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    It might hurt webcams but it will be a huge benefit to content producers... IP is the only thing the US actually manufacturers anymore and we need to protect that from piracy. Limiting downloads will go a long way to that goal.

    The US loses billions each year in potential revenue to free online content - software, music, movies ect. If we can plug some of the holes it will certainly help.

    Whether the FCC imposes it or its gets litigated into existence I see the gravy train of free content on the internet coming to an end. All those ISPs could be held liable for contributory copyright infringement and they want to avoid the massive litigation they are about to get hit with.

    Soon ISPs will be policing their users whether they want to or not. They will be forced to and those that illegally download content will have their internet service cut off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pornlaw View Post
    The US loses billions each year in potential revenue to free online content - software, music, movies ect. If we can plug some of the holes it will certainly help.

    Whether the FCC imposes it or its gets litigated into existence I see the gravy train of free content on the internet coming to an end. All those ISPs could be held liable for contributory copyright infringement and they want to avoid the massive litigation they are about to get hit with.
    Great point! My first thought on this was "ugh" because the last thing I want is to pay more for internet, & I do use NetFlix. However, since I actually produce content as well this is more a way that I would be protecting my own interests. I pay tax for plenty of things I don't use, so it would be nice to see some taxes go to something that would make a quality difference to our industry!

    While there is tons of free content online it will eventually get stale. Just like people don't really care to watch porn from the 80's, eventually the content from the last decade will seem old too. It's better to plug the holes now so the new content doesn't end up in the realm of freebies, forcing users to actually have to contribute financially for new content that they want... at least until they find new ways to steal & distribute it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pornlaw View Post
    The US loses billions each year in potential revenue to free online content - software, music, movies ect. If we can plug some of the holes it will certainly help.

    Whether the FCC imposes it or its gets litigated into existence I see the gravy train of free content on the internet coming to an end. All those ISPs could be held liable for contributory copyright infringement and they want to avoid the massive litigation they are about to get hit with.
    Great point! My first thought on this was "ugh" because the last thing I want is to pay more for internet, & I do use NetFlix. However, since I actually produce content as well this is more a way that I would be protecting my own interests. I pay tax for plenty of things I don't use, so it would be nice to see some taxes go to something that would make a quality difference to our industry!

    While there is tons of free content online it will eventually get stale. Just like people don't really care to watch porn from the 80's, eventually the content from the last decade will seem old too. It's better to plug the holes now so the new content doesn't end up in the realm of freebies, forcing users to actually have to contribute financially for new content that they want... at least until they find new ways to steal & distribute it again.
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    It might hurt webcams but it will be a huge benefit to content producers... IP is the only thing the US actually manufacturers anymore and we need to protect that from piracy. Limiting downloads will go a long way to that goal.

    The US loses billions each year in potential revenue to free online content - software, music, movies ect. If we can plug some of the holes it will certainly help.
    Obviously your point is valid. However, the mechanism of enforcement is going to result in side effects that, for example, promote and protect 'professional' adult content produced by say a Vivid and delivered via a pay per view cable system, at the expense of sacrificing 'amateur' content produced by a dancer doing home webcam and delivered by an internet webcam host.

    IMHO these new regulations aren't really about adult content restriction per se ... they are about regulating / restricting 'small businesses' for the benefit of 'large businesses'. Of course it is the 'large businesses' that accurately document their incomes, who report their employees' incomes to the IRS, who pay lobbyists and lawyers, and who also respect copyright laws.

    I agree that the enforcement approach of 'rationing' internet bandwidth to 'starve' internet video providers is probably going to be far more effective than litigation against those providers. However, the 'rationing' of bandwidth is also going to affect 'amateur' webcams that really don't have any copyright infringement issues as an 'unintended consequence'.

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    As a media professional, trained in the legals behind fcc...they have NO STANDING here and we need to fight this expansion. Fcc was created to manage the use, abuse and cntent of BROADCAST AIRWAVES as this is a limited resource shared by all americans....as is water, air, etc. (To the epa)

    Fcc has no standing in paid content such as cable, though the basic level providers generally follow 'community standards' guidelines. If they did, 60% of hbo and skinemax, and all adult cable/satellite would be illegal


    Bandwidth, usage, and other issues are for private market forces to regulate. We need to call our elected "PUBIC SERVANTS" (misspelling intentional) and stop this expansion

    Let the internet roam free, except for copyright infringement and illegal acts (we already have laws for these things)...if a provider /isp wants to ban pporn (as many christian isps have) their customers decide if they win or lose.

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    ^^^ all true according to a strict interpretation of the US constitution. However, thanks to far too many court decisions to mention, the constitution's 'general welfare' clause has repeatedly been used to expand gov't authority. It is precisely the 'general welfare' clause that provides the arguable FCC regulatory authority required to regulate the 'shared resource' of the US internet backbone.

    Also, unlike the broadcast airwaves, the FCC has made no mention of attempting to regulate content. Instead it plans to regulate / ration internet bandwidth. It is of course 'sheer coincidence' that the major users of internet bandwidth are video streams, and that a significant percentage of those are adult in nature.

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    How many SWers are willing to sign a petition? How many will call their reps? Let's organize and stop this abuse of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ all true according to a strict interpretation of the US constitution. However, thanks to far too many court decisions to mention, the constitution's 'general welfare' clause has repeatedly been used to expand gov't authority. It is precisely the 'general welfare' clause that provides the arguable FCC regulatory authority required to regulate the 'shared resource' of the US internet backbone.

    Also, unlike the broadcast airwaves, the FCC has made no mention of attempting to regulate content. Instead it plans to regulate / ration internet bandwidth. It is of course 'sheer coincidence' that the major users of internet bandwidth are video streams, and that a significant percentage of those are adult in nature.
    I'm gona guess this would potentially have a greater negative impact on the independent webcammers and those who use split-cam as a means of spreading themselves over multiple cam networks, than those who use a cam site and/or don't use split-cam. Yes?


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    ^^^ probably not ! Based on what little has been 'leaked' about the coming FCC regulations, it seems to be centered on the principle that internet bandwidth needs to be 'rationed' in order to prevent streaming video ( of all kinds ) from overwhelming the US internet backbone thus degrading internet performance for ALL Americans. One method of accomplishing this that was specifically stated in the 'leaked' FCC blurb is allowing internet service providers to erect wholesale IP blocks against 'very high bandwidth' domains - which will likely be deployed against NetFlix and many other video streaming web servers, including webcam host servers. If this happens, then 'ordinary' customers of those internet service providers ( like Time Warner / Comcast cable modems, AT&T / Verizon DSL etc. ) will simply not be allowed to connect to 'very high bandwidth' internet sites whose IP's have been blocked. Also, if this happens, 'ordinary' customers who still want access to these 'very high bandwidth' internet sites will have to subscribe to a new category of 'high bandwidth' internet service at a significantly higher monthly subscription cost. Granted that many 'ordinary' internet service customers will decide the extra cost for 'high bandwidth' service is worth it. But some number of 'ordinary' internet service customers will decide the extra cost is NOT worth it, and as such these customers will be totally lost as potential adult webcam customers since they will no longer be able to access adult webcam servers / networks whose IP's have been blocked !!!

    The way around this will obviously be to NOT use an adult webcam host whose high bandwidth content will quickly be brought to the attention of the FCC, Time Warner, AT&T, Verizon etc. Of course, this also immediately creates new problems in regard to establishing an independent ability to process adult online credit card charges, compliance with Section 2257, operating a stand-alone streaming video web server, attracting hits from potential adult webcam customers etc. And if the internet service providers establish actual bandwidth usage monitoring of individual 'normal' internet service customers as a result of the new FCC rules, even with an independent capability of producing pay-per-view webcam it will only take a month or two before those 'normal' internet service customers are faced with the option of having the independent streaming webcam server IP blocked or paying $100 a month instead of $20 a month for 'high bandwidth' internet service in future months.

    Again pure speculation, but my guess is that most customers who DO agree to pony up much higher monthly 'high bandwidth' internet access fees in order to continue accessing streaming videos and webcams will also expect more 'bang for their buck' from the webcam girls. And assuming that 1/2 of the present customer base for webcams will probably opt NOT to pay the much higher monthly internet access fees, this will create a situation where the same total number of webcam girls must then compete for business among just 1/2 as many potential customers ... with the remaining customers also being more 'hard core'. In principle, this will be equivalent to a strip club being busted thus the same number of dancers must then attempt to earn money from a club customer base that has been cut in half ( thanks to many of the 'normal' club customers having been scared off by the busts) - with the probable similar outcome of the remaining customers flocking towards the girls that offer the most 'bang for the buck'. In practice, this could similarly mean that webcam girls who do not choose to perform sex on camera, kinky s#!t etc. are likely to see their future earnings potential fall off a proverbial cliff as a significant percentage of 'normal' webcam customers simply disappear.

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    ^^^ well in point of fact, the 'big 5' do not operate as free market businesses subject to competition where their cable modem service is concerned. They are in fact at least partially government regulated re being granted exclusive service territories and regulated rates for certain services (like providing T1 and other high bandwidth interconnections to web servers ) under telecom laws. This also provides the FCC some cover for new regulations.

    As to a potential experiment by Google Fiber to construct an entirely independent fiber optic based communications system, unless that system eventually winds up being totally independent from existing US internet backbones it theoretically faces the same sort of new FCC regulations that the 'big 5' do ! This of course would require hundreds of billions of dollars worth of investment on the part of Google, as well as gov't regulatory approval on many levels. I don't actually see this happening ... at least not in today's economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Again pure speculation, but my guess is that most customers who DO agree to pony up much higher monthly 'high bandwidth' internet access fees in order to continue accessing streaming videos and webcams will also expect more 'bang for their buck' from the webcam girls. And assuming that 1/2 of the present customer base for webcams will probably opt NOT to pay the much higher monthly internet access fees, this will create a situation where the same total number of webcam girls must then compete for business among just 1/2 as many potential customers ... with the remaining customers also being more 'hard core'. In principle, this will be equivalent to a strip club being busted thus the same number of dancers must then attempt to earn money from a club customer base that has been cut in half ( thanks to many of the 'normal' club customers having been scared off by the busts) - with the probable similar outcome of the remaining customers flocking towards the girls that offer the most 'bang for the buck'. In practice, this could similarly mean that webcam girls who do not choose to perform sex on camera, kinky s#!t etc. are likely to see their future earnings potential fall off a proverbial cliff as a significant percentage of 'normal' webcam customers simply disappear.

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    How many webcam customers sit in free chat and never pay for a private ? Could higher fees get rid of the tire-kickers and just leave the paying customers ?

    Cream will always rise to the top. Perhaps the better webcam performers will make more money because they know how to keep a customer without doing "harder" shows. I can tell you that Vanessa does well on webcam and doesnt even show penetration. Most of her better paying clients are more interested in fetish shows than anything else.

    Just other things to consider...

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    Regulation (last resort) or increased costs could be imposed on high byte-rate content. That would help limit not the amount of data downloaded, but the speed/bandwidth with which it is downloaded at. That would be a simpler solution if byte-rate charges could be implemented, which is certainly technically do-able.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

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    Cream will always rise to the top. Perhaps the better webcam performers will make more money because they know how to keep a customer without doing "harder" shows.
    Very possibly the case. However, this will also require that the 'cream of the crop' webcam girl have some means of attracting a sufficient number of remaining customers. This is where 'credentials' and/or 'fetish' appeal come in ... something that for better or worse at least 80% of typical webcam girls do not have.


    hat would help limit not the amount of data downloaded, but the speed/bandwidth with which it is downloaded at.
    Unfortunately the real world implication of , say , limiting bandwidth by a factor of 4 would be to reduce the video quality of live webcam streams back to 1999 levels, as well as to require an 8 hour download in advance of viewing a 2 hour NetFlix movie in normal video resolution.

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    If I can download a 500MB 2 hour flick in say 20 minutes, streaming video would take well, 2 hours. I don't believe that relates to adult webcam action, but there are comparisions with downloading commercial, legit applications or content that can also be large.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    ^^^ well, the proposed FCC rules appear to allow the Time Warner's, Comcasts, AT&T's etc. to SELECTIVELY block domains of servers that are notorious bandwidth hogs, on the basis of reducing total internet backbone and ISP 'internal distribution' traffic. Deciding to slow down legit commercial applications on 'residential' accounts could very well happen ... after all Time Warner, Comcast, AT&T etc. already offer separate ( and more expensive ) business accounts, which in the future may escape bandwidth limits where 'residential' accounts become subject to bandwidth limits.

    On a more pragmatic train of thought for Time Warner, Comcast, AT&T etc. one of the things that their corporate attorneys are going to point out is that the 'arbitrary' blocking of certain high bandwidth IP's is probably going to result in both customer complaints and lawsuits from the businesses profiting from the 'free' availability of high bandwidth transfers to 'residential' customers. Along that line, the LEAST likely affected group to lodge high profile complants and/or institute damage to profitability lawsuits will be adult website / adult streaming video, and the MOST likely affected group to lodge high profile complants and lawsuits will be NetFlix !

    And again the 'problem' is not about downloading 500mB worth of 2 hour movie once a week ... at 1mB per sec or 10mB per second. The 'problem' is about streaming 5000mB or 20 hours worth of video every week without being charged extra for the privelege by Time Warner, Comcast, AT&T etc. Keep in mind that the true reason behind these proposed FCC regulations probably has very little to do with the stated reason * wink wink * ( see earlier comments on cable system pay per view offerings ).

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    Adult webcam shows don't have to be 30 frames per second to get their points across. I see nothing wrong financially with slowing down internet movies; that is not what the internet is about. Let people who don't do that loading have a break.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Ummm I hate to sound stupid here. Does this mean I would no longer be able to cam even if I work for huge sites like I do now?

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    ^^^ based on the proposed FCC ruling, there will be no effect whatsoever in your ability to do webcam work for huge high bandwidth adult webcam host sites. What could change is that 'regular rate' internet service customers using Time Warner, Comcast, AT&T, Verizon etc. could be blocked from accessing those huge high bandwidth adult webcam host sites, unless they sign on for a new category of high bandwidth video streaming internet service having a much higher monthly charge !

    Thus if whatever percentage of internet service customers decide that they don't want to pay an additional $29 or whatever per month for high bandwidth video streaming service, they lose the ability to access high bandwidth adult webcam host sites and thus will be lost to you as potential webcam customers.

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    Thank you for explaining that to me! I kind of figured that is what it ment in a sense but was not sure.

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    ^^^ probably not ! Based on what little has been 'leaked' about the coming FCC regulations, it seems to be centered on the principle that internet bandwidth needs to be 'rationed' in order to prevent streaming video ( of all kinds ) from overwhelming the US internet backbone thus degrading internet performance for ALL Americans. One method of accomplishing this that was specifically stated in the 'leaked' FCC blurb is allowing internet service providers to erect wholesale IP blocks against 'very high bandwidth' domains - which will likely be deployed against NetFlix and many other video streaming web servers, including webcam host servers. If this happens, then 'ordinary' customers of those internet service providers ( like Time Warner / Comcast cable modems, AT&T / Verizon DSL etc. ) will simply not be allowed to connect to 'very high bandwidth' internet sites whose IP's have been blocked. Also, if this happens, 'ordinary' customers who still want access to these 'very high bandwidth' internet sites will have to subscribe to a new category of 'high bandwidth' internet service at a significantly higher monthly subscription cost. Granted that many 'ordinary' internet service customers will decide the extra cost for 'high bandwidth' service is worth it. But some number of 'ordinary' internet service customers will decide the extra cost is NOT worth it, and as such these customers will be totally lost as potential adult webcam customers since they will no longer be able to access adult webcam servers / networks whose IP's have been blocked !!!

    The way around this will obviously be to NOT use an adult webcam host whose high bandwidth content will quickly be brought to the attention of the FCC, Time Warner, AT&T, Verizon etc. Of course, this also immediately creates new problems in regard to establishing an independent ability to process adult online credit card charges, compliance with Section 2257, operating a stand-alone streaming video web server, attracting hits from potential adult webcam customers etc. And if the internet service providers establish actual bandwidth usage monitoring of individual 'normal' internet service customers as a result of the new FCC rules, even with an independent capability of producing pay-per-view webcam it will only take a month or two before those 'normal' internet service customers are faced with the option of having the independent streaming webcam server IP blocked or paying $100 a month instead of $20 a month for 'high bandwidth' internet service in future months.

    Again pure speculation, but my guess is that most customers who DO agree to pony up much higher monthly 'high bandwidth' internet access fees in order to continue accessing streaming videos and webcams will also expect more 'bang for their buck' from the webcam girls. And assuming that 1/2 of the present customer base for webcams will probably opt NOT to pay the much higher monthly internet access fees, this will create a situation where the same total number of webcam girls must then compete for business among just 1/2 as many potential customers ... with the remaining customers also being more 'hard core'. In principle, this will be equivalent to a strip club being busted thus the same number of dancers must then attempt to earn money from a club customer base that has been cut in half ( thanks to many of the 'normal' club customers having been scared off by the busts) - with the probable similar outcome of the remaining customers flocking towards the girls that offer the most 'bang for the buck'. In practice, this could similarly mean that webcam girls who do not choose to perform sex on camera, kinky s#!t etc. are likely to see their future earnings potential fall off a proverbial cliff as a significant percentage of 'normal' webcam customers simply disappear.

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    ^^^ based on the proposed FCC ruling, there will be no effect whatsoever in your ability to do webcam work for huge high bandwidth adult webcam host sites. What could change is that 'regular rate' internet service customers using Time Warner, Comcast, AT&T, Verizon etc. could be blocked from accessing those huge high bandwidth adult webcam host sites, unless they sign on for a new category of high bandwidth video streaming internet service having a much higher monthly charge !

    Thus if whatever percentage of internet service customers decide that they don't want to pay an additional $29 or whatever per month for high bandwidth video streaming service, they lose the ability to access high bandwidth adult webcam host sites and thus will be lost to you as potential webcam customers.
    I still think this knocks out the tire-kickers. Those that will spend $ each month on content, be it webcam, porn sites or even NetFlix will pony up the increase. Those that want everything for free will not. It might cut the customer base but I think it will get rid of the deadwood not the paying customers.

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    ^^^ I hope your assessment turns out to be correct. However, I can also think of a whole bunch of other scenarios ... like serious adult webcam customers who also happen to be married trying to explain to their wives why their home internet access account needs to be upgraded at a significantly higher monthly service charge for the 'sole purpose' of being able to ( continue ) receiving high bandwidth streaming video !

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    I don't know, but I'm inclined to believe the big internet/video/cam companies have enough money and resources to lobby against something that could hurt their business so much.

    I like the idea of limiting a lot of the tire kickers while keeping most of the actual spenders. I make by far most of my money from a low number of spenders who, for the most part, would certainly pay for upgraded internet service in order to keep serving their fetishes. Frankly, I also like the idea of a lot of lower-producing cam girls getting washed out, because just like stripping, there are entirely too many girls. lol

    I also believe technology will adjust, as it has been over the years. I'm seeing ways to provide streaming video while using less bandwidth over time.


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    I'd have to have a "4 simease twin strippers gave me head and then lite themselves on fire" story to blow anybody's mind here.

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    ^^^ yup today's vote by the FCC board authorized the FCC's ability to 'regulate' internet traffic and content. As to what this may eventually mean in terms of specifics ... and of relevance to dancers / models / webcam girls such issues as continued access to adult content without additional cost, continued availability of 'real time' video streaming bandwidth without significant additional cost, etc. in particular ... have yet to be decided.

    As to relative 'lobbying' power, there is simply NO WAY that even the biggest adult video producers, the biggest adult webcam hosts, and the biggest adult subscription websites, can remotely approach the 'clout' that Time Warner, Comcast, AT&T, Verizon and other major internet service providers can muster. Also keep in mind the fact that these ISP's can also swing the related 'clout' of their employees' unions, as well as their own financial and political clout ( i.e multi-millions in collective political contributions ).

    And even if the adult video producers, adult webcam hosts, and adult subscription websites were to cause enough commotion to actually attract national attention, the overall result is likely to be WORSE than if they do nothing. The reason of course is that no US politician or gov't agency wants to be cast in the role of 'promoting pornography'.

    The only real hope in regard to the future FCC regulations will come from court challenges. However, given the fact that the FCC board just asserted regulatory authority despite a standing federal court ruling that they do NOT possess said regulatory authority, just like the Offshore Oil Drilling ban in the Gulf of Mexico it seems pretty clear that the present gov't is intent on going ahead with new regulations regardless of what a federal judge has ruled. About the only hope in this regard would be a Supreme Court case ... costing several million dollars in legal fees versus no guarantee of prevailing.

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