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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    I have a few things I'd point out on this.

    And I hope you aren't taking my advice as offensive. This is just what worked for me, and I'm trying to help out other people who may want to have a more normal career path and merely wish to use stripping as a stepping stone to further their more mainstream aspirations.

    You, obviously, are one of the very few who can make a career out of stripping. And do so happily.

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    i think its good to get the perspective of different long term options in choosing your career path and schooling- learning on your own or through college. im glad for both sides.

    i do believe that you can be successful without college depending on what you want out of your working like (college works for technical fields). Ive heard both sides, college being right for them and some being a waste. I feel like you need to think long term in this sense and save money, just in case you do end up feeling burnt out.


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    Charlie, are you still in school? and do you know what job you want with your degree?


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    i think the number one thing is to know what you want out of life and what you are passionate about and let stripping be an effective way to get you there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    And I hope you aren't taking my advice as offensive. This is just what worked for me, and I'm trying to help out other people who may want to have a more normal career path and merely wish to use stripping as a stepping stone to further their more mainstream aspirations.

    You, obviously, are one of the very few who can make a career out of stripping. And do so happily.
    Haha, no, not at all! You know I started out the same way. I always wanted to be a professional ballet dancer, but later on had too many health problems. College was my "plan b", when I realized I wasn't going to be able to do the intense routines any longer. I was pretty devastated when all my friends went to college though & I realized I couldn't afford to go (parents wouldn't help nor give me info for FAFSA).

    Then I had a guy take me for a large sum of money (professional con artist I later discovered), & I had to pay off the bill. I was working a job that I hated but I had money coming in, already more than many college graduates in my area. I'm impatient though (didn't want anything negative on my credit report) & since the guy hadn't given me even a dime I started dancing & paid off the bill (thousands of dollars) in about a month & a half. Later I sued him, but never saw the money he owed me. The good thing was that if forced me to go outside of my safety net, which was how I discovered stripping. Then I realized that with the money from dancing I could afford to go to college.

    What I went to college for was my fall back (since I couldn't do ballet professionally), & something I ended up hating. The second degree was pretty much by accident. My first degree required some electives, & my bf at the time talked me into taking a class that I had zero experience in. Looking back it's really funny how little I knew - literally I was the most clueless one in the class technically speaking! Anyhow, I befriended some people & by the time I finished the requirements for the first degree I had so many credits in the second subject that I figured I needed to just finish the degree for it. Plus by then I was on the Deans list, graduated with honors, blah blah blah. In the end the second degree makes me more money, but now that my friends are around & it isn't "fun" like it once was, I pretty much refuse to use the degree unless I'm getting paid insanely well for it.

    I took well paying jobs during & after college, I pretty much always ended up hating them though. I think the longest I could ever stay at a company was about 5 or 6 years, which was the last one I had. I was going bonkers by the end! I'm not cut out for the corporate world. I can't sit behind a desk all day, & I can't deal with female co-workers trying to put me down because I'm younger/prettier/more educated at their job than they are, I also don't like having a list of a million things to do, or going home at night & dreaming of all the things that could go wrong. I don't like being called about things at the office when I am on vacation, I don't like dealing with people in other countries... I just want to go in, enjoy my job, collect my money & leave.

    In the end, while I'm still pissed that the guy never paid me back, if it weren't for him I wouldn't have found stripping. I kept dancing even after college because I enjoyed it, it's something I really loved, probably more than what I could have ever loved the ballet. This job allows me to really be myself. When I finally got sick of pretending to be happy with the corporate environment I walked in & gave my two week resignation letter. My boss (the company president) was astonished, & while I adored him as well as the company Vice Presidents (there were three), at least one member of the staff drove me absolutely insane to the point that my boyfriend was referring to her as "Cruella Deville", which was actually a play on the letters C.D. for Communications Director. At the time I was teaching pole dancing & dancing. When I turned in the resignation letter I think my boss knew that I didn't have another regular job lined up (he knew I taught dance classes but didn't know what type or that I danced), which was probably why he worried since he knew I had a mortgage, car payments, etc. It took a lot of courage to give up the regular job that society expected me to have, but I am soooooo much more happy now! Plus, at that point I was already a veteran dancer... so in a way I was lucky because I already had the skills to survive. Now, when I took a sabbatical from the studio, & they went under (out of business) during that time, I did freak a bit... but it forced me to work harder and in the end it was even less stress on my shoulders.

    The other thing though is that I am pretty well connected. I've been offered multiple management positions in the last year, plus I do some consulting & freelance work... but I'm not out there looking for it because I don't need it. I'm enjoying not having a lot of commitments. Even with dancing though I am turning down work, yesterday I turned down two gigs & today I turned down one. Honestly I just didn't want to be bothered sometimes. I'm sort of strolling along to my own beat these days. If something feels like its going to be a hassle I simply turn it down. Part of getting rid of the day job was getting rid of all the hassles & commitments, & I don't plan to replace them with new ones.

    So I became a career stripper by accident, which I think happens to a lot of dancers. We start out saying we are there for one thing, realize we can achieve something else too, & then suddenly you become hooked - especially if you've done a lot of other types of jobs & realize how much better dancing is. I tell this to people all the time, but I honestly can't think of anything I'd rather do than striptease. I'll probably leave this business when I am forced out by the nature of things. I just want to make sure I go out with a bang though!


    Quote Originally Posted by AmyLynne View Post
    If you want to ever do anything above entry level you need a degree. You make a million more dollars or something like that for having a degree.
    Not true, you just need to have a lot of drive & be willing to learn on your own. Even before I had graduated college I was out earning people in similar positions to me with degrees. Part of that was because by starting through temp agencies I was continuously being tested, challenged, & pushed into higher positions. Before starting college I had already started & sold a business, & once in college I was trading stocks as well. What I knew though did not come from college. Both of my parents are successful, have their own businesses, & neither of them have a college degree. There are tons of people who are successful without a college degree like Bill Gates, Mary Kay, Coco Chanel, Michael Dell, Steve Jobs, Simon Cowell, Walt Disney, Rachel Ray, Debbi Fields, Frank Lloyd Wright, Henry Ford, Milton Hershey. You just need the drive, the entrepreneurial spirit, networking skills, & the ability to find the right people to help you... a person who has those will be successful in whatever they do - including stripping.

    If you are the type who wants to become a doctor, or some other field where it's pretty much required that you have a higher education & pass certain exams then college is 100% necessary. If you are the type that isn't good at learning on your own then college can be helpful. Don't ever think for a minute though that for the majority of jobs a college degree is required... its not. I've taken plenty of good jobs away from college graduates before I had ever graduated, based on skills I had learned on my own before college. Some of the jobs I had after college I took because I didn't like the work in the field my degree was in, & opted for something that paid better but a degree is typically required for, & even though it's not what my degree was in when I showed better aptitude for it I was hired over applicants with related degrees. Generally a college degree can mean earning more money over the length of your career, but not always. Plus, you could say the same thing about being born a man versus a woman, since it's proven that they still out earn us. The same could also be said for being physically attractive versus being plain since studies have shown that attractive people also earn more. There's far too many variables, so I just don't automatically think that everyone needs to get into the trap of thinking they "must" have a college degree, & beyond that I think the government pushes it because they know they make money off of it with school loans - especially from younger people where they can collect more interest off of them!

    If you plan to work for someone else the rest of your career, & you don't have the drive to learn on your own or to prove your skills then that paper can help you, but you can't depend on it. Most people know, especially older people, that there are places that offer a good education & places offering bad educations... but you can come out with the same college degree at both places. Your level of self drive & with whom you choose to study from can make all the difference in the world. A prime example, I would not recommend that anyone get a college degree in photography... for what it costs you can study 1-on-1 (or taken an apprenticeship) with some of the best photographers in the world & learn far more than what you ever would at a college. You could probably pay less than a quarter of a college education to study with some of the top photographers as a matter of fact, which could be a huge savings & saying you studied directly with a photographer like Annie Leibovitz for X amount of time could easily land you a better job/gig than saying you graduated from Brooks for example. Your portfolio in a situation like that will help you by volumes, but many times what you walk out of college with is still the bare essentials of your industry.

    Plus, many colleges have professors that will actually "keep you down", meaning that if you challenge ideas they'll tell you that something is too advanced to discuss or that the school doesn't want to teach that - something I discovered a lot in college. I've talked on here many times about my far over educated ex boyfriend (6 masters degrees, working on like a 7th & a PhD now) whom I lived with for many years, often he would point things out to me that were wrong about what was being taught in the colleges, but the thing is that he actually had tons of viable evidence! When I'd bring it up to the college professors sometimes they'd give me the cold shoulder because it's above what they teach at that level - if you want advanced knowledge you often have to look to the best in the industry - the ones who are excited to talk about it which is why people discuss them. They are the ones who are published in industry magazines, doing advanced work, & giving the "expensive" lectures... but they are worth their weight in gold because they challenge ideas! That is something many college professors aren't doing - they are paid a set salary & have tons of papers to grade, so they are busy with too much on their minds already many times. Don't get me wrong, once in a blue moon you will get an amazing professor - but I could count the "amazing" professors I've had on less than one hand.

    The point is, I think people need to look at what they really WANT & NEED. That's often something that a person doesn't really understand at 18 to about 23. Living out in the real world, away from the home you grew up in, where you need to pay your own bills & experience many new freedoms allows you to change & learn amazingly fast. With even a bit of research or real life experience you can find that the career paths you thought were interesting at 16, 17 or 18 aren't really what you want as an adult or that there are jobs you hadn't even considered - possibly because you didn't know about. I think a large part of my success in college had to do with the fact that I didn't go to college right away, but at the same time I don't feel that I waited long enough either. I had real world experience that the college professors respected a lot over my peers, & I was able to buckle down more when I studied. I never lived in a dorm & I didn't "party" during college - I did my school work, worked a regular job, & danced. I was far too busy to party. However, I wasn't ever in trouble & I came out with multiple degrees... neither of which do I need now that I have transitioned to the "career stripper" mode.

    I've thought about going back to college again for a third degree. I make jokes that when I'm old I'll be like Barbra Streisand's character in "Meet the Fockers". She's like my more mature idol/soul in that movie! I thought about going for as degree in Human Sexuality but the probability is that I'd end up working with people who have much more serious issues like sexual predators - which I'm not interested in. I also thought about going for a degree in Women's Studies, but honestly I've already taken multiple classes in that & a lot of times the instructors are the "I hate men" feminists... which is also something I don't agree with since I have more of a yin-yang outlook on genderism. Plus, what would I really do with a degree in that? Honestly, everything I want to do I can already do. I get to perform, I make people happy, & I can already teach others through workshops, seminars, etc... what more could I ask for?
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    Thanks for such a great post Charlie!

    I'm just starting university next year and right now I'm working my ass off 6 nights a week and saving every cent possible of my earnings so I wouldn't have to work too much when I'm studying and could instead dedicate myself to school and internship/volunteering. I'm going to be an international student so the annual fee is already going $25 000 AUD plus all the living expenses.

    This thread gave me extra motivation to work, save and use my money and time wisely in order to achieve my goals. Thank you! x

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    And they are more likely to marry at older ages, and are more likely to wait to have children.
    fuuuuuck - missed that buss! guhuhu

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogibear179 View Post
    Charlie, are you still in school? and do you know what job you want with your degree?
    I am graduating this December with a degree in English literature. I had serious problems all throughout college trying to pick a major, so that's kind of just what I ended up with. I have sooo many credits in other fields; I didn't decide until my junior year what major I wanted.

    I'm really not sure what I want to do with it yet (I have plans to return to school for a more professional degree in the future...but I don't know what I want to do yet!) So right now I'm applying to a number of positions that would allow me to explore different fields (publishing, HR, etc.) while I gain some direction.

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    I actually agree that a bachelor's degree is a good idea. However, there is no law that says that one must start pursuing a bachelor's degree immediately upon graduation from high school. A few points to consider ...

    - in today's economy, with the exception of Ivy League ( or otherwise highly regarded ) degree holders, the probability of landing a 'decent' entry level job upon graduation isn't all that good. There are unfortunately tens of thousands of other degree holders who also have some amount of degree related career experience that are also looking for employment right now.

    - in any economy, a new exotic dancer's earnings potential typically starts out pretty high once she has spent a few months 'learning the ropes', continues to increase throughout her 20's, but ( with admitted exceptions ) begins to decline in her 30's. This is both due to the dancer's better physical ability to handle dancing in her teens and twenties versus thirties, and also due to ( with admitted exceptions ) declining marketability of her 'goods' once in her thirties.

    - on the flip side, pursuing a college degree in one's thirties as opposed to age 18 offers a number of advantages ... among them 'emancipation' from dependent status, a more mature / serious college work ethic, a 'fresher' degree when seeking degree related employment immediately after graduation etc.

    - the 'time value of money' theory says that money earned and saved while dancing between age 18 and 22 will have a far higher 'total worth' after accumulating 10+ years of compound interest / dividend / cap gains earnings.

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    You can only put 5k per year in a ROTH IRA. Open a SEP IRA as well. (SEP=self employed pention plan)

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    right now I am in college pursuing a bachelor's degree in community planning and resource economics... if i could i would wait to go to college until my stripping earning potential has reached it's low/when i decide to end my stripping endeavors but my grandparents have offered to pay for my college tuition for me, so this is the best time for me to do it. i go to school during the day, strip at night and on weekends.

    i know eventually i'm going to have to get a "real" job (i hate putting it that way) and that it is very important to have internship experiences and volunteer experiences, because the more people you know in your industry, the better. however, i think i will start those after i finish my degree. instead of school during the day and stripping at night and on weekends, i will do internships/volunteering during the day and stripping at night and on weekends. then once my earning potential/enjoyment has been maxed out i will pursue a job in my field of study.


    this way i can go to school and strip, and then continue to strip as a career while getting experience in my field until i decide im done with stripping.

    what do people think about this? am i doing the right thing?

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    I love this thread. I contribute nothing by saying that haha, but I'm a junior in college and I will definitely be rereading this as I get into finals week and start hating my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    You can only put 5k per year in a ROTH IRA. Open a SEP IRA as well. (SEP=self employed pention plan)
    Please use this thread to explain the difference!!

    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    I am very very inexperienced with this type of stuff so could you please explain what ROTH IRA and a SEP IRA are and why they are important?

    Also, if I were making a lot of money dancing per week would it be wise to deposit it all in my bank account? I've heard that other dancers use safes for some reason and I'd like to know why its better. These are probably really basic stupid questions for you, but I'm a newbie at this all !
    Do NOT put your money in your bank account unless you're paying taxes on it, especially if you're an independent. Ideally we would all pay 100% of our taxes. That being said, if you do not plan to do so, then keep your money in a safe. Otherwise your large contributions to your bank account could set off red flags in the IRS, and you may be audited (BAD).

    And remember to pay taxes on whatever you invest. Try to use your stripping money (what you aren't paying taxes on) whenever you can in cash transactions. Keep as much of this money out of the bank as possible. Though if you're an indepedent, and paying for your own tuition / housing, then you will also need to pay taxes on these. Not doing so could get you into big trouble with the IRS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    I actually agree that a bachelor's degree is a good idea. However, there is no law that says that one must start pursuing a bachelor's degree immediately upon graduation from high school. A few points to consider ...

    - in today's economy, with the exception of Ivy League ( or otherwise highly regarded ) degree holders, the probability of landing a 'decent' entry level job upon graduation isn't all that good. There are unfortunately tens of thousands of other degree holders who also have some amount of degree related career experience that are also looking for employment right now.

    - in any economy, a new exotic dancer's earnings potential typically starts out pretty high once she has spent a few months 'learning the ropes', continues to increase throughout her 20's, but ( with admitted exceptions ) begins to decline in her 30's. This is both due to the dancer's better physical ability to handle dancing in her teens and twenties versus thirties, and also due to ( with admitted exceptions ) declining marketability of her 'goods' once in her thirties.

    - on the flip side, pursuing a college degree in one's thirties as opposed to age 18 offers a number of advantages ... among them 'emancipation' from dependent status, a more mature / serious college work ethic, a 'fresher' degree when seeking degree related employment immediately after graduation etc.

    - the 'time value of money' theory says that money earned and saved while dancing between age 18 and 22 will have a far higher 'total worth' after accumulating 10+ years of compound interest / dividend / cap gains earnings.
    I completely see what you're saying. I'll add that...

    1) It's true that it's hard to get a job these days, but you will have a better chance if you have a degree of some kind.

    2) Very few people can have a high quality of life while dancing as career dancers and also make enough money to do so successfully. I think your perspective is great for people who can manage to do this, but for those of us who burn out after 1-4 years, this doesn't work so well.

    3) It is very important to invest your money while you're young, yes!! So get that Roth IRA up and running, since Roths don't get taxed twice when you retire and withdraw your money.

    4) If you wait until your 30's to pursue a college education, then you will have a massive resume gap that may not be easily explained to prospective employers. This is a very important downside to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    1) It's true that it's hard to get a job these days, but you will have a better chance if you have a degree of some kind.
    Often your actual skill sets will dictate your ability to find & retain a decent job over a piece of paper. I pointed that out in multiple paragraphs above. Even if you get hired, not having the correct skills to master tasks given to you (due to poor education etc.) means that any job you have will be short lived... there are too many talented people around & employers who are quick to fire slackers or employees who are incapable of fulfilling their duties. People sometimes will go through various jobs where they don't stay for very long, then they have to decide whether to either leave those jobs off their resume & try to explain the gap, or list it on their resume knowing that they will have to be honest with future potential employers about their failures.


    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    2) Very few people can have a high quality of life while dancing as career dancers and also make enough money to do so successfully. I think your perspective is great for people who can manage to do this, but for those of us who burn out after 1-4 years, this doesn't work so well.
    I'm trying to figure out what exactly you are referring to as poor quality of life. Most of the career strippers I know have been extremely successful - live in large homes in top neighborhood, married well, have children, & bodies the other neighborhood moms would die for. They have everything other people have, but because their income is so high, & they typically have high expectations for spouses, they tend to end up being upper income households when otherwise they probably would have been middle income households. Interestingly enough, they are also the same people who I don't see getting divorced out of my friends. Since money is one of the biggest things couples fight about I suspect that HAVING a good amount of money has something to do with it.


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    4) If you wait until your 30's to pursue a college education, then you will have a massive resume gap that may not be easily explained to prospective employers. This is a very important downside to consider.
    Its actually easier to explain gaps in your resume earlier on than later on, especially for women. There are so many things like: raising a family, stay at home wife, traveled the world, went to school, cared for a sick family member, freelanced, volunteered, got really involved with the church.

    Some of those can be used later on in life but things like raising children, going to school & traveling the world (especially with a productive purpose like teaching English, further your education, help with research) are answers that employers expect out of younger women rather than older women.

    Things like traveling the country or world can be particularly attractive to employers because it shows that you have spent time in other places & learned about other cultures, which can be great for many different fields including sales, business deals, art, etc or simply jobs that expect you to travel a lot. Traveling can also show that you have good organization & planning skills, can work independently, & get along with various types of people. At 22 I had a job where I was being sent around the country by myself setting up & "manning" booths for my company at trade shows in the medical industry, as well as setting up seminars for medical seminars offering CEUs (continuing educational units - required in many medical industries). Most people at 22 would never be able to obtain a job like that, & part of the reason I had that job was because my skills showed that I was good with traveling & organization. Being able to travel is a very impressive skill to employers, especially if you show you are capable of doing it while you are younger. Athena is another prime example of someone who could probably easily list her traveling on a resume & come across looking like she was productive while becoming more cultured, organized, etc. The fact is she's been traveling the country dancing, but she's also done a lot of other things while dancing & met people who encourage her to challenge herself more. In the meantime she's become an ambassador for another community of people, which shows leadership abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    I'm trying to figure out what exactly you are referring to as poor quality of life. Most of the career strippers I know have been extremely successful - live in large homes in top neighborhood, married well, have children, & bodies the other neighborhood moms would die for. They have everything other people have, but because their income is so high, & they typically have high expectations for spouses, they tend to end up being upper income households when otherwise they probably would have been middle income households. Interestingly enough, they are also the same people who I don't see getting divorced out of my friends. Since money is one of the biggest things couples fight about I suspect that HAVING a good amount of money has something to do with it.
    As has been pointed out many, many times in this thread, the "career strippers" on this forum tend to be very, very different from the majority of career strippers IRL. EVERY "career stripper" I know personally is a wreck. These are girls who have no other ambition in life but dancing, but they aren't smart about it. The career strippers I know do not save or invest their money. They don't file taxes. They haven't bought a house. They live in a shitty apartment with a shitty boyfriend and blow all their cash on whatever. Drugs, booze, shopping sprees at Wal-Mart. They buy more stripper clothes than they could ever use, and they never wear 95% of them. They don't travel. They aren't in school. They are wasting every cent they make, and when they get too old to do this, they're going to discover that they threw away soooo many opportunities.

    A degree, while not a guarantee at a job that pays the same as dancing, is at least a safety net. And if you go to grad school, then you absolutely have a shot at making the same kind of money, if not more. Even teaching can get you great money. There's a public high school in my area that pays $89,000 a year for teachers. And most colleges offer more than $100k.

    Seriously, it's not so terribly expensive to go to college. Even if you go just for the fuck of it, it's something that you will have till the day you die. No, it doesn't guarantee you a job right off the bat, but it certainly doesn't hurt.

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    Kylea--By poor quality of life, I'm of course not referring to the material things surrounding career strippers. And I'm not talking about career strippers who enjoy their jobs.

    I'm talking about people who make the decision to be career strippers, find out that they don't enjoy it, and yet continue doing it because they make such great money. For these people, working in a dark club 4-5 nights a week, talking to annoying guys, fending off hands, being assaulted, etc, is not enjoyable. 10-20 years of doing this, with the end goal of retiring early or whatever, doesn't really seem worth it. Monetarily, yes. Quality of life-wise, no.

    And it is easier to get a higher paying job if you have a college degree of some kind. Many job-specific skills have to be taught to people regardless of whether or not they have an ideal degree, so this is not a major deterring factor. People with college degrees, in general, are more likely to make more money and are more likely to be hired. I don't see that there is any way of contesting this. Obviously if you have an English major and are trying to be hired as a marine biologist, your degree is not very useful--but I wasn't trying to make this claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemaiden04 View Post
    As has been pointed out many, many times in this thread, the "career strippers" on this forum tend to be very, very different from the majority of career strippers IRL. EVERY "career stripper" I know personally is a wreck. These are girls who have no other ambition in life but dancing, but they aren't smart about it. The career strippers I know do not save or invest their money. They don't file taxes. They haven't bought a house. They live in a shitty apartment with a shitty boyfriend and blow all their cash on whatever. Drugs, booze, shopping sprees at Wal-Mart. They buy more stripper clothes than they could ever use, and they never wear 95% of them. They don't travel. They aren't in school. They are wasting every cent they make, and when they get too old to do this, they're going to discover that they threw away soooo many opportunities.

    A degree, while not a guarantee at a job that pays the same as dancing, is at least a safety net. And if you go to grad school, then you absolutely have a shot at making the same kind of money, if not more. Even teaching can get you great money. There's a public high school in my area that pays $89,000 a year for teachers. And most colleges offer more than $100k.

    Seriously, it's not so terribly expensive to go to college. Even if you go just for the fuck of it, it's something that you will have till the day you die. No, it doesn't guarantee you a job right off the bat, but it certainly doesn't hurt.
    Agreed, completely. This is true to my experience.

    This is not to say, of course, that joyfully happy career strippers who have 100% of their lives in order don't exist. They do. But they are VERY VERY VERY rare and I don't think that any girls currently stripping should make any crazy decisions (such as blowing off an education until they're 40) until they know for a fact that they are one of these people.

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    I'm one of those people who stripped as an ends to a means-it wasn't a job I could have done for 10 years, but it paid for college, and so I'm happy I did it. While all of my friends are scrambling to pay off loans, I'm perfectly fine and comfy.

    I stripped for all 4 years of college (majoring in PR), and interned in the summers. After graduation, I got a job within 2 weeks of graduating, which I hated.

    I quit, and decided to go to grad school. I wanted to build up my resume, so I got an internship that paid for 40 hours a week, so it was essentially working full time. My classes were at night.

    I graduated with my Master's after 18 months in December. By January, I had an amazing job-and I got it in this rotten economy, so I can tell you how much a degree helps. I had way too many job offers to choose from.

    Without my degrees, I would have had a very tough time breaking into PR, and even if I had managed to do it, I'd be making half what I make now.

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    ^ I love that stripping can be used as a kind of behind-the-scenes way of getting to where you want to be. It's a stepping stone.

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    i got my BA, and am about to get my JD. stripped from sophomore year in college through this January.

    I will say, if you are the type for college, do it!

    However, I strongly believe college is not for everyone. dont go just because someone tells you to. go because you want to. For a lot of people, I think a trade school is a better option. I have spent too many years listening and dealing with people who should not be in college to assume that it is right for everyone.

    Charlie gives awesome advice, and i hope anyone planning on college and stripping listens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole84 View Post
    i got my BA, and am about to get my JD. stripped from sophomore year in college through this January.

    I will say, if you are the type for college, do it!

    However, I strongly believe college is not for everyone. dont go just because someone tells you to. go because you want to. For a lot of people, I think a trade school is a better option. I have spent too many years listening and dealing with people who should not be in college to assume that it is right for everyone.

    Charlie gives awesome advice, and i hope anyone planning on college and stripping listens.
    Good for you!! And I agree completely--academic-minded college is not for everyone. The idea is to gain some kind of skill--physical or mental--from college that the world recognizes as legitimate.

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    Good for you!! And I agree completely--academic-minded college is not for everyone. The idea is to gain some kind of skill--physical or mental--from college that the world recognizes as legitimate.

    exactly. so many people think they can do this forever, and so few really can. if you dont have other real skills, you're screwed.

    thankfully i knew i was not meant to be a career stripper, lol.

    i do miss the pole though. just not the customers, lol.

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    Oh, I forgot to add that you should also be trying to build credit throughout your college years. Get a credit card and use it to make small purchases (like for gas), and pay it off completely every month. It takes time to build credit, but you need to start somewhere. That way, once you graduate with no debt and some money saved up, you'll actually be able to purchase the things you want.

    Also, if you aren't paying 100% of your taxes, never make large purchases with money (even if it's cash). Car dealerships and whatnot report cash purchases over something like $5,000 to the IRS. So you can't get away with buying anything just because you buy it in cash. You might not get caught, but this is a risky game.

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    Kylea, I love what you say, but you have two college degrees. So your thoughtful and articulate arguments are from someone who HAS graduated from college.

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