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    I just joined this site to learn more about my experience last weekend at a strip club in the Florida Panhandle (won't say exactly where just in case).

    First off, I haven't been to a strip club in 5 years, only went due to a going away night out with four guys (yes, we were military).

    I did not intend to do more than a couple of drinks, a couple of lap dances, but as soon as we sat down, something about our demeanor had a bunch of women show up (it was after midnight and the club was full).

    While we were all making nice introductions (ie the women were working their hustle), a perfect "10" blonde came over and sat on my lap. All the other dancers were sitting in chairs and just talking gab (asking our names, what we did...did we have money).

    The "10" on my lap was being a bit jumpy to get my attention as I introduced her around and suddenly another dancer grabbed my hand and put it firmly on the "10"s breast. This was against the club rules as all the dancers were looking around. The "10" whispered in my ear that only the VIP area allowed that type of contact. Yes, I was hooked. I figured why the hell not splurge as I knew it was expensive. But what happened next is what really confused me and really need clarification.

    The VIP lounge was $350 for an hour, I paid in advance. Then, the "10" urged me to tip the waitress, another $70. Then I was told I need to tip the dancer $350 for the hour; why not (I later paid $300 plus another 10% fee); again, I was splurging, didn't care about the cost and was mildly buzzed.

    The champagne came and with it, strawberries and whip cream in a cup. I was curious. The show started as the perfect "10" dancer took her top off (the whole time was topless only) and a regular lap dance started. I didn't move and just let her touch me. She then took my hands and had me touch her saying it was allowed. Again, confused. I started caressing lightly rubbing everywhere but her breasts and panty area. She finally turned around, rubbed my crotch with her butt and grabbed my hands and put them on her breasts and squeezed. Shortly after, we're basically having foreplay. Then she introduced the whip cream by putting it on her nipples and telling me to lick it off.

    Yup. There's more. After the "bathroom break", she returned and we started up again. She spread her legs open and hinted at me caressing her inner thighs. I did, and she said customer's are never this gentle (lie?) and that I need to use the whip cream. I oblige. I spread some on her inner thighs all the way to the panty line and proceeded to slowly lick it all off; at which point she closed her legs around me ensuring my face was right at her vagina, so I made kissing movements over her panties and she just squeezed a little longer before letting go.

    She then told me that she didn't want to admit it but she was horny as hell and really wanted me inside her. I turned that option down. The hour was winding down and she put her hands on the floor, rubbing my crotch with her butt but slowly pushing her body up to my face and had my hands inside her panties from behind. I couldn't help caressing lower and am sure I felt her vaginal lips without reproach.

    All this time, the waitress checked on us as well as the bouncers and even with my head in this dancers crotch licking whip cream off her (this dancer had zero blemishes) nobody had any issues.

    After the hour was up, she wanted my number saying she was a bit sad that I was leaving next year and only had two months here. I informed her that I wasn't leaving until next July to go overseas.

    With no pen (I'd already paid for everything and signed for it all), we went downstairs, she disappeared into the back to put her money up and "grab a pen" at which I got the hint really quick when she didn't immediately return. I went back to friends, recommended the VIP (no actual sex occured) as I did thoroughly enjoy the entire hour. I eventually saw her emerge from the back with another outfit on and she completely ignored that I was even there (figured it was all a fantasy hour anyway).

    My question is, is this normal behavior in a VIP room? She basically started out liking the caressing, then wanted me kissing her all over her body; intentionally steering clear of the most common places men immediately grope until she point blank put them to my lips (i.e. breasts with whip cream and face between legs). I've searched this forum and have not seen any mention of this type of behavior. I know I paid a hella lot of money (wasn't an issue to me) for no sex but I did enjoy myself and am wondering is this just the fantasy that allows that type of contact or is this club skirting laws and turning a blind eye?

    Lastly, I did not try to approach her afterwards or even attempt to get her attention; though I wouldn't mind returning again for a repeat performance before I leave.

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    You were in the pan handle of FL, any seasoned dancer knows what goes on in that area. You paid extra for her services & for the VIP hostess to ignore anything that occurred illegally. It happens all the time down there. Don't think for a minute though that you are the only one she's done this with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    You were in the pan handle of FL, any seasoned dancer knows what goes on in that area
    really? i have never heard of the panhandle to be full of extras. or even that risque. i was actually surprised this went on there. I guess you can get anything in champagne these days.
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    ^^^ While I wouldn't say it's as bad as other parts of FL, it's not Orlando, enough said.
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    Thanks for the info. I thought afterwards that it probably went beyond legal; though I don't know Florida laws regarding touching in any capacity.

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    While illegal, it was tame compared to what would likely have happened in Miami, or certain clubs in Tampa or Daytona, especially considering you spent about a grand. In Miami you probably would have gotten fucked for that, except I've heard there is like one clean club there, lol. In my last Daytona club, you could have had 3-4 of them trying to blow you at once.

    Here, the dancer would have been heavily fined or fired for the fingering, and they probably would have stopped the dancing if they had seen that--they watch pretty closely, too.
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    My question is, is this normal behavior in a VIP room?
    Djoser is right on the money; I've been offered much more for much less in Florida clubs, especially Tampa, where amongst the management, it's a foregone conclusion that FS goes on in VIP with their tacit approval.
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    Florida is not all like that, in Orlando you'll be lucky to even catch glimpse of a nipple. Tampa, Key West and Miami are pretty damn wild though, i blame the mouse for the tameness of Orlando.

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    ^^^ That's exactly why most of us think Orlando is tame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    Florida is not all like that, in Orlando you'll be lucky to even catch glimpse of a nipple. Tampa, Key West and Miami are pretty damn wild though, i blame the mouse for the tameness of Orlando.
    Blame the Jesus Freaks for that. In the 90s Orlando had a thriving stripclub business--mostly up around Altamonte Springs; Rachel's, Club Juana, CircusCircus, Dancer's Royale, Cabaret Internationale, Club Harem--all of these and a lot more did a pretty good business back in the late 80s and early to mid-90s.

    Until about 1997-8, when the burgeoning ultraconservative Republican Party machine in the area (my biggest real estate clients at the time hosted the meetings in their offices) united with local right-wing religious groups, for a massive anti-sex industry campaign. Big billboards all over the place, thorough journalistic coverage, you name it. It worked. Now the business is a shadow of itself.
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    I'll be buying her or anyone else's services again before I deploy in July. Whether illegal or not, I enjoyed it all and wasn't looking for sex but damn, it was worth every penny to kiss, lick and touch a young, unblemished, non-tattooed, perfect body. I'm 35, in shape (military), and will gladly pay for anything 21 and under due to the smooth, silky, breast enhanced skin. I'd buy that for a dollar (plus $800).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsensitiv View Post
    I'd buy that for a dollar (plus $800).
    Shit, go out to Pasco county (west of tampa) or to one of several clubs in Miami and you'll buy that and a whole lot more for a lot less than $800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    Blame the Jesus Freaks for that. In the 90s Orlando had a thriving stripclub business--mostly up around Altamonte Springs; Rachel's, Club Juana, CircusCircus, Dancer's Royale, Cabaret Internationale, Club Harem--all of these and a lot more did a pretty good business back in the late 80s and early to mid-90s.

    Until about 1997-8, when the burgeoning ultraconservative Republican Party machine in the area (my biggest real estate clients at the time hosted the meetings in their offices) united with local right-wing religious groups, for a massive anti-sex industry campaign. Big billboards all over the place, thorough journalistic coverage, you name it. It worked. Now the business is a shadow of itself.
    I remember going to circuscircus when i was 18, one of the best nights of my young life at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    Blame the Jesus Freaks for that. In the 90s Orlando had a thriving stripclub business--mostly up around Altamonte Springs; Rachel's, Club Juana, CircusCircus, Dancer's Royale, Cabaret Internationale, Club Harem--all of these and a lot more did a pretty good business back in the late 80s and early to mid-90s.

    Until about 1997-8, when the burgeoning ultraconservative Republican Party machine in the area (my biggest real estate clients at the time hosted the meetings in their offices) united with local right-wing religious groups, for a massive anti-sex industry campaign. Big billboards all over the place, thorough journalistic coverage, you name it. It worked. Now the business is a shadow of itself.
    i'm pretty sure that's the same thing that killed the business here in st pete too. from what i've heard, it wasn't much different from tampa back then. seems to be why tampa got such a big reputation. pinellas got cleaned up, orlando got cleaned up. tampa was the only place to go.

    and yeah, i'm in pasco now, and i totally don't believe what the managers say about it being clean. there aren't cameras in any dance areas at all. and in one month of working there, i've had more guys touch my pussy than i did in years in tampa. and in tampa, they'd sort of creep their hands that way or ask. in pasco, they just lunge for it and i have to make them stop. most of the girls seem pretty clean, but clearly enough aren't that custies expect it. there's a lot i like about the club, but i totally can tell there's whores there.

    tbh, for the price, it sounds pretty tame. but you also say she was really hot, so i guess she can afford to not be a total and complete skank. lol. if you feel you got your money's worth, you definitely did. if looks matter more to you than how dirty it was (and it really should, because masturbation is free), nobody has any right to say anything about other places or other girls.

    if she can just walk back out without blushing, as if you'd never met, this isn't her first time. though, you probably were more gentle than most custies. some of them can be damned pushy.

    definitely illegal. definitely happens anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    Florida is not all like that, in Orlando you'll be lucky to even catch glimpse of a nipple. Tampa, Key West and Miami are pretty damn wild though, i blame the mouse for the tameness of Orlando.
    I don't know how long it's been since you were in Key West, but things have changed. All three clubs are pretty strict. Unless you get them OTC, of course. And of course there are always ways around the rules, and girls who will bend them. But from what I've seen, it's pretty hard to get away with. They have cameras and they watch them. Even 'stick-shifting' through the pants is a real no-no.

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    ...if you feel you got your money's worth, you definitely did. if looks matter more to you than how dirty it was (and it really should, because masturbation is free), nobody has any right to say anything about other places or other girls.

    if she can just walk back out without blushing, as if you'd never met, this isn't her first time. though, you probably were more gentle than most custies. some of them can be damned pushy.

    definitely illegal. definitely happens anyways.
    Good points. When I said you could have gotten more elsewhere, it wasn't meant to be a criticism. Just sayin'

    I have always felt that the quality of the experience matters a lot more than matching some ideal score that other people have reached--that goes for lots of things. I don't get dances, not since I started DJing, but if I did, I would way rather have a really good looking woman deliver a full, sensuous experience in a VIP setting, than get my dick sucked by a woman who does it for 20$ a song, next to a bunch of other guys getting their dicks sucked as well. I've worked in those clubs, it's not for me.
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    What about the pen that never showed up? Why was that needed in her show? Money was already spent, I believe.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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