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    I'm just hoping for a little e-support here ...

    I'm a junior at a four year private college and I admittedly derive lots of my self esteem from my academic performance. In addition to the importance I place on my grades I also plan on going to graduate school after graduation (not immediately though). So with that said, I am failing a class.

    An F will go on my transcript.




    This will lower my GPA to a 3.0, the minimum GPA required for the graduate programs I have my eye on. After graduation I plan to take classes at other colleges before applying to graduate school which would give me time to raise my GPA and gain more experience, but honestly I am just SO upset. I am going to have to repeat a similar course (hopefully I can do so at a community college over the summer) because I need it to graduate.

    I know that in five years I will be way past this but presently I feel so dissapointed in myself. I have entered shame spiral and I'm breaking out in hives ... seriously. I know this is sort of laughable but I could use some e-hugs.

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    I had the same problem.
    I had to take this RIDICULOUS class (unrelated to what I was in school for) to graduate and I just COULD NOT bring myself to do any of the work.

    It's my one F in a sea of A's.
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    No one here is going to be able to give you an answer on this since things are different from one college to another. Go see your academic adviser though & ask if there is an "academic forgiveness policy". In the worst case scenario you'll re-take the class & both grades will count towards your GPA. In the best case scenario, although your official transcript will show that you took the class twice, your GPA will only count the higher of the two grades for that course.

    Sorry hun! College is not a breeze though, & sometimes other things effect our grades beyond our immediate control.
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    I would ask about it, especially if you feel you deserve higher. I've reported several teachers who gave me lower grades than I expected. Never an F, but still frustrating. I had a professor in grad school who would intentionally fail people he didn't like.

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    That's super frustrating. How certain are you about this F though? Can you approach the professor to do some extra credit work to pass the class? I would also recommend seeing an academic advisor about your options for retaking the class and having it expunged from your transcript. Often it will show up that you took the class twice (which you may have to explain to grad schools if they ask), but only the second grade will count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat w View Post
    I'm just hoping for a little e-support here ...

    I'm a junior at a four year private college and I admittedly derive lots of my self esteem from my academic performance. In addition to the importance I place on my grades I also plan on going to graduate school after graduation (not immediately though). So with that said, I am failing a class.

    An F will go on my transcript.




    This will lower my GPA to a 3.0, the minimum GPA required for the graduate programs I have my eye on. After graduation I plan to take classes at other colleges before applying to graduate school which would give me time to raise my GPA and gain more experience, but honestly I am just SO upset. I am going to have to repeat a similar course (hopefully I can do so at a community college over the summer) because I need it to graduate.

    I know that in five years I will be way past this but presently I feel so dissapointed in myself. I have entered shame spiral and I'm breaking out in hives ... seriously. I know this is sort of laughable but I could use some e-hugs.
    F.W.I.W. you must be pretty smart if you already know for certain that getting an F will be a bad thing. This is what is causing your anxiety. How do you know that failing that course won't turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to you? Maybe something will happen at summer school that will change your life in a positive way?

    I look at it like this: we set our goals, and do what we do, with the goal of being happy. We all want happy in it's infinite variations. But we get so focused on future happy, that we forget right now happy. Go directly to happy...don't leave it to some chance future outcome. Be happy right now by noticing what your fearful thoughts are causing you to feel like, and distracting yourself from the bullshit your mind is throwing at you.

    If you think "I'm going to be a failure", you'll feel like a failure. If you think "whatever happens, I'll deal", you'll be fine now, and in the future.

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    At some schools you can retake the class and receive an average of the 2 grades (something like that).
    I would go down fighting! Really, really try to do something in your class for extra credit. Maybe a project that will help the professor's research....something....

    If you are allowed to retake the class- do it! Even in the summer, even if it means you don't graduate on time. Taking one class in the summer and grad-ing late is no big deal.

    I understand where u are coming from. If it was me I would do everything possible to not have an F on my transcript.

    It has been 10 years since I graduated from college, so I am writing this with some perspective. I know how it feels to gain self confidence and pride from your grades.

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    Is there no way you will be able to pass? Have you tried getting a tutor? I can see the stress because you want to do further studies, but are you absolutely sure that this will mess it all up? I know a lot of graduate programs look at more than just grades. What about working even harder next semester and try to bump everything else up to pull it up.

    If it makes you feel any better I failed a class in university. I think its more common than you think but most people just dont talk about it.

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    Can you do a retroactive drop? I had to do that my freshman year bc my advisor suggested I take this class that was like full of seniors... it was really bad... but they dropped the grade off of my transcript... I went to Virginia Tech and we were allowed two retroactive drops for our academic career there...

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    Does your school have any sort of forgiveness policy? I know some schools will allow students to re-take a course and expunge their earlier grade if they do well enough in it...sometimes there is a limit on the number of opportunities like this that you're given....

    might be worth looking in to.

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    Can you take the class over again? At the university I went to, if you took a class twice, they only counted the higher of the two grades.

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    ^ Exactly! It's worth a try?

    ((hugs))

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    Always remember that, whether you're applying to grad school or for a job, real people will be reviewing your GPA. People who can understand when problems like this come up, as long as you communicate with them. You can always attach an extra note to your applications/resumes that explains why your GPA is so low.

    Also, if the "F" occurred outside of your major (even if it's in your requirements, it may be outside of your major), you can list both your Cumulative and Within Major GPAs separately, to emphasize that this class was a total fluke.

    I completely hear where you're coming from. I take my grades extremely seriously as well, and I take anything less than all A's as evidence that I'm completely retarded. (Which is obviously ridiculous, but that's how it feels).

    This happened to me in a less serious way when I took Accounting my sophomore year. The class was filled with drunken frat boys and party girls, and I thought I had the class in the bag. It turns out that I'm a total moron when it comes to accounting. I ended up with a B/C in the class (partly due to the fact that if I don't succeed 100%, then I have a tendency to stop trying completely). My confidence was completely crushed. I was considering dropping out of school and all kinds of crazy shit.

    Trust me though, you will eventually feel better. It doesn't seem feasible that something silly like one bad grade in one class will get in the way of the rest of your life. You will find a way to get where you want to be!

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    Thank you SO much everyone. It is VERY comforting that other people have been in a similar situation and whether or not the grade stuck they lived to tell the tale, haha.

    My professor has no ignored 3 emails from me inquiring about any and all options I may have and I'm now taking my situation to the academic resource center to see what can be done. I'm obviously not afraid to work hard and simply want to get the best grade possible. My failing grade is due to having failed the midterm, despite getting Bs on the preceeding exams. I feel that given my horrible midterm grade my F is fair, however my professor's lack of communication now is not.

    Thank you everyone, for the practical advice regarding gradschool, and the emotional support. I will hopefully have something to report soon.

    Seriously, you guys are the best. *Hugs everyone*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Always remember that, whether you're applying to grad school or for a job, real people will be reviewing your GPA. People who can understand when problems like this come up, as long as you communicate with them. You can always attach an extra note to your applications/resumes that explains why your GPA is so low.

    Also, if the "F" occurred outside of your major (even if it's in your requirements, it may be outside of your major), you can list both your Cumulative and Within Major GPAs separately, to emphasize that this class was a total fluke.

    I completely hear where you're coming from. I take my grades extremely seriously as well, and I take anything less than all A's as evidence that I'm completely retarded. (Which is obviously ridiculous, but that's how it feels).

    This happened to me in a less serious way when I took Accounting my sophomore year. The class was filled with drunken frat boys and party girls, and I thought I had the class in the bag. It turns out that I'm a total moron when it comes to accounting. I ended up with a B/C in the class (partly due to the fact that if I don't succeed 100%, then I have a tendency to stop trying completely). My confidence was completely crushed. I was considering dropping out of school and all kinds of crazy shit.

    Trust me though, you will eventually feel better. It doesn't seem feasible that something silly like one bad grade in one class will get in the way of the rest of your life. You will find a way to get where you want to be!
    People often think GPAs only pertain to college, but they pertain to life. For instance even the lower tier grad schools require a 3.0. Even though I've been out of college 10 years I still have employers ask my GPA.

    I just remember that I too got a D in college. I ended up transferring to another college anyway (which is why I didn't care I got a D) but didn't transfer my credits to my next school. I was bummed because I never get lower than a B (and rarely a B). Some schools don't put any bad classes towards the GPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat w View Post
    Thank you SO much everyone. It is VERY comforting that other people have been in a similar situation and whether or not the grade stuck they lived to tell the tale, haha.

    My professor has no ignored 3 emails from me inquiring about any and all options I may have and I'm now taking my situation to the academic resource center to see what can be done. I'm obviously not afraid to work hard and simply want to get the best grade possible. My failing grade is due to having failed the midterm, despite getting Bs on the preceeding exams. I feel that given my horrible midterm grade my F is fair, however my professor's lack of communication now is not.

    Thank you everyone, for the practical advice regarding gradschool, and the emotional support. I will hopefully have something to report soon.

    Seriously, you guys are the best. *Hugs everyone*.
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    Update - my professor finally returned my emails. He denied my request for an incomplete so that I could have more time to bring up my grade. I emailed the dean of academic life today so I'm keeping my fingers crossed but it is looking like I may just have to suck it up.

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    There may well be other options. As has already been mentioned here, many schools will let you retake a class and only the higher grade will appear on your transcript. I suggest taking the class from a different teacher. Or maybe see if the class is available as a summer course and take it then, as the classes tend to be more condensed and you get more in-class time to discuss difficulties with the professor.

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