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    Default Can women be geniuses?

    Some people don't think so.

    What do you think?
    How many female geniuses can you think of, and whom are they?

    *NOTE: I don't mean just SMART women, i mean GENIUS women!


    I believe women can be (and have been, and are) geniuses, but I do also agree that it seems to be more rare... and likely because historically, women haven't been given the same chances as men. I am inspired by gender and female-ness, but I also believe that thinking "differences" in gender leads to a different type of power/genius achieved and recognized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillionaire View Post
    Some people don't think so.

    What do you think?
    How many female geniuses can you think of, and whom are they?

    *NOTE: I don't mean just SMART women, i mean GENIUS women!


    I believe women can be (and have been, and are) geniuses, but I do also agree that it seems to be more rare... and likely because historically, women haven't been given the same chances as men. I am inspired by gender and female-ness, but I also believe that thinking "differences" in gender leads to a different type of power/genius achieved and recognized.

    What? What kind of question is that? Of course.

    If I had to guess why so few are famous............... Downplaying genius because of social stigmas about nerds, geeks, being uppity, putting on airs......

    By the by anyone that has told me they are a genius, has invariably turned out to be not so.

    So Madame Curie, doesn't count? Ms. Savant from the tabloid papers?

    Colonel Carter? Oh wait that's Stargate.

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    Yes. Just because someone isn't famous, doesn't mean they aren't geniuses.

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    What? What kind of question is that?
    I second this.

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    I hear they can vote and have jobs now too.

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    ^^^ LOL Funny how things can start one way, change to something else, & then go back to the first way making everyone happy.

    I don't know of anything that makes them physically incapable of being geniuses, so I believe they can. Historically speaking though most of them were not brought up to operate at the same level as men, with very few exceptions. I think as time goes on, & particularly now that news travels faster, we will see more women noted as being geniuses.
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    Right, you don't hear of female geniuses like Einstein or Newton not because men are smarter but because women just didn't have the same opportunities as men.

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    I think intelligence is hard to measure, so I guess I'd have to call into question what you'd define as 'genius'? Can painters be geniuses? Does the measuring scale take into account how the intelligence is applied, or are the roots of intelligence itself be measured (i.e. brain matter)?

    And are you measuring genius using a scale developed by a white Christian male-dominated system? If you are, then there's a possibility that we don't even always recognize genius when we see it. How many geniuses are discarded when they try to enter into such a rigid hegemonic system as ours?

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    ^^^ Exactly, in many ways I feel that Queen Elizabeth I was "genius" as well as a number of other women that aren't exactly noted as being geniuses in history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    i am also drunk. so forgive typos. even drunk geniuses make typos.
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    Of course they can.

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    I'm with what Charlie said... "Genius" is pretty subjective.

    But yes, men and women can both be "genius".

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    Women can be geniuses and pose nude. A mid 1980's edition of Playboy had a pictorial "The Women of Mensa". Yes, Athena, I dare you.
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    I've heard about research that's shown that men have a higher IQ range than women. It would follow that there are more male geniuses than female geniuses, but it would also follow that there are more really stupid men than really stupid women. But wtf, women can still be geniuses in any form of the word.

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    Ayn Rand- philosopher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    im pretty much a math genius. fo real. but i have a lot of disdain for the academic world. and i am a woman. so if i am a woman, and a genius, then women can be geniuses.

    i am also drunk. so forgive typos. even drunk geniuses make typos.
    "I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of reasoning." -- Plato

    Obviously Athena defies stereotypes by offering us both, & particularly as a woman, therefore making her a genius. Its so good to know I've "shared a bed" with at least one - possibly two.
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    Lisa Nowak until she drove across the country wearing a diaper. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Nowak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillionaire View Post
    Some people don't think so.

    What do you think?
    How many female geniuses can you think of, and whom are they?

    *NOTE: I don't mean just SMART women, i mean GENIUS women!


    I believe women can be (and have been, and are) geniuses, but I do also agree that it seems to be more rare... and likely because historically, women haven't been given the same chances as men. I am inspired by gender and female-ness, but I also believe that thinking "differences" in gender leads to a different type of power/genius achieved and recognized.
    I thought this was some kind of trick question at first!

    Of course they can be. Unfortunately, the last few thousand years have been patriarchal for most of the world; and the tremendous power of the female intellect has been squandered by imbeciles playing petty sex/power games.

    It's a good time to be alive, now that the other half of the human race is finally being recognized as having advanced cognitive abiilties. Throughout history, it's amazing what lengths the power elite will go to to rationalize the stifling of huge portions of the populace. Slavery, sexism, imperialistic domination of entire continents--they always found a way to justify it with rhetoric and brainwashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    Elizabeth I
    cleopatra
    Interesting you should mention these two. Though intellectual genius is one thing, but the political savvy and charisma necessary to rival the achievements of these two might be another. Plenty of the world's greatest leaders have been lacking in sheer brainpower, I suspect. It is far better to be shrewd than a genius, when dominating your fellow men and women.

    Other women, if we consider the ability to rule an empire to be the equivalent of genius, would be Hatsepshut, Catherine the Great, Theodora (the real power behind 'Justinian the Great'), Empress Dowager Cixi. I know there are more but I have been partying lol.


    My favorite woman of all time, though:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_I_of_Caria

    What the article doesn't tell you, though is the tale of possibly the most outrageous military coup ever, pulled off by Artemisia at the battle of Salamis. She commanded 5 ships there as a semi-voluntary ally of the Persian Empire; as all the Ionian Greeks were pretty much required to contribute to the war effort.

    When it looked like the Persians were losing, and a bunch of Greek triremes were running down on her ass, she turned and rammed another Persian Allied ship. So the Greeks chasing her thought she was one of them, and left her alone. She was able to get away, unlike the majority of the other Persian and allied ships.

    Xerxes was watching the battle from a high mountainous promontory. When he saw what Artemisia did, he supposedly remarked 'My women have become men, and my men women.' She had advised him not to do what he did at Salamis, BTW--arguably the single most decisive battle in history.

    It didn't hurt that the ship she rammed was commanded by another Persian ally who had been an asshole to her before.

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    One of my customers has nick named me Jeniuss which is a combination of genius, and my real and dancer names. LOL...

    Obviously! You have to remember that women have not been given the opportunity to use their intellect until recent times. As the years go by more and more women will be able to express intelligence on that level.

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    Some people don't think so.

    What do you think?
    Of course not!


















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    Quote Originally Posted by lol1337a View Post
    I've heard about research that's shown that men have a higher IQ range than women. It would follow that there are more male geniuses than female geniuses, but it would also follow that there are more really stupid men than really stupid women. But wtf, women can still be geniuses in any form of the word.
    IQ test show nothing these days..

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