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    Yeaaaah, it was just a brainstorming session. No one was saying that this was the end all be all, it was just some ideas. If a girl actually CAUGHT HIV yeah, she would probably be gone, we were just looking at different options. What could work, what wouldn't. Jesus let it go.

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    if you said it a few years ago, id scream I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU, I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU
    i was an escort in toronto for quite a while and tried different agencies; and canada is the place id like to come back to someday. but not as an escort anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    Jesus let it go.
    I was helping you make a better decision and you are taking offense? hmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    Hun I didnt say I would HIRE HIV positive girls, it was what would I do if one of the girls that worked for me CAUGHT something AFTER being hired. Like I said I refuse to be a party to them possibly spreading it. We were simply brainstorming if there were any possibilities other than firing them. Such as doing dances or massages. I know thatHIV can be spread in more than one way thanks.

    Even in FBSM men sometimes expect some oral action. Some girls do french, some girls do not.

    You'd have to make sure that no matter how much the tip or that even with a condom they do NOT. And that'd be hard to ensure, as it's easy for a young woman to think "It's only a quick bj"

    I had a couple of girls who worked with me and I'd merely take a small cut for screening - as an escort the fact that someone wanted say $150 out of $300 when MY pussy's doing the work was nauseating, so I kept it small and fair.

    It was AMAZING what the girls would do: I am a safe sex fiend.

    Girls would scrub their teeth and gums seconds before a client arrived (creating minute cuts in mouth) SCREAM One girl worked and gave bbbjs after dental surgery, and by girl I mean average intelligence 30 yo. All I could do was look at her in disbelief.

    Girls would let men cum on their thighs and buttocks. First off, seriously gross with a stranger. Second, standing up cum can leak into more delicate spots.

    For $50 more, girls would let men cum in their mouths. Less than the price for a great meal out for two people and they're seriously upping their risk?

    None of them ever told me about BB and I don't think it happened but then again, they all knew what a screaming fit that'd bring lol.

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    I know girls are crazy. I really don't know what's wrong with their minds! I have known some seriously jacked up escorts is town. Which is why if anyone caught something serious they would have to go. But for like chlamydia or something? That shit can be cured in a week, so put them on probation, get the clear results back, and then they can go back to work. Which is why I was saying that I want to check there STI test results every few months, to look out for everyones health. If they don't like the fact that I will be checking, it REALLY makes me wonder what they would be wanting to hide, which makes me think they are willing to put themselves and clients at risk, so I wouldn't want them working for me anyway.

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    Even in FBSM men sometimes expect some oral action. Some girls do french, some girls do not.

    You'd have to make sure that no matter how much the tip or that even with a condom they do NOT. And that'd be hard to ensure, as it's easy for a young woman to think "It's only a quick bj"

    I had a couple of girls who worked with me and I'd merely take a small cut for screening - as an escort the fact that someone wanted say $150 out of $300 when MY pussy's doing the work was nauseating, so I kept it small and fair.

    It was AMAZING what the girls would do: I am a safe sex fiend.

    Girls would scrub their teeth and gums seconds before a client arrived (creating minute cuts in mouth) SCREAM One girl worked and gave bbbjs after dental surgery, and by girl I mean average intelligence 30 yo. All I could do was look at her in disbelief.

    Girls would let men cum on their thighs and buttocks. First off, seriously gross with a stranger. Second, standing up cum can leak into more delicate spots.

    For $50 more, girls would let men cum in their mouths. Less than the price for a great meal out for two people and they're seriously upping their risk?

    None of them ever told me about BB and I don't think it happened but then again, they all knew what a screaming fit that'd bring lol.
    Well said dearie!

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    Wow, I don't even know how to respond to this...that is some nasty shit there. So scary to think that these men expose themselves to the likes of that...and then see us! Yikes! Could you imagine their poor wives or girlfriends? They aren't using protection. Omg makes me sick even thinking about it.

    Anyway, I dont think this is the direction OP was trying to go with this thread! I'm sorry hon, I've got tons of ideas, but everytime I'm on here I'm too tired to share, lol! I'll get at you tho...I need to come here when I'm drinking my morning coffee one day soon

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    Yeah for SOME reason this thread keeps getting hella off topic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    Yeah for SOME reason this thread keeps getting hella off topic...
    Just because you don't agree with something someone says doesn't mean they're off topic. A good business owner seeks advice from others to make good business decisions.

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    I've worked in this business for a few years.

    I like your idea of perks because it shows that you really care about your employees and their well being. Makes them feel appreciated which is always a good thing. However, I'm not so sure about get-togethers. From my experience, unless you have a dedicated incall space with a house mom, ladies need to be separated as much as possible. I've witnessed some pretty bad things happen when ladies are altogether in one place. I'm not talking fights or drama, but they tend to do what all employees end up doing when they're in one place - compare notes and rant about the job.

    I've found that ladies excel when they don't have anyone else to compare notes with. In other words, if Escort A talks to Escort B and Escort C at the barbecue and realizes that she is the lowest earner of the group, there will be some resentment. I've also witnessed with even some of the most established respectful agencies that the more the ladies get together, they'll begin to conspire to leave the agency and open their own. In fact, that's how I got my first job. I worked for two ladies who left their agency and stole all their coworkers away from their previous employer. The clientele soon followed. In fact, our clientele thought we simply changed our company name. The original owner had nothing left but to shut down permanently. And this was an extremely successful agency, not a fly-by-night. Now I know you may be saying to yourself, "If these are the kind of girls that would do that, good riddance to them anyway." True, but you could be setting yourself up for one big headache. Again, this is just all my opinion.

    Also you mentioned rates about being a higher caliber. I'm unsure what you meant by that exactly but again from my experience I think you can be higher caliber without pricing yourself out of the market. For instance, if the standard rate in your city is $200, go for $250. That way your clients can still afford to see their ATF as often as they can. Frequent visits = more $ in your pocket. Remember you'll want to keep your phones ringing so your ladies can be happy. If the rates are too high, sure they'll make more per appointment, but work far less.

    Another awesome way to make money and keep the ladies happy is by offering a higher cut. So instead of taking the usual 40% you can take 30% or 35%. Oh and remember to factor in your phone girl too.

    Women who are passionate about this business make the BEST agency owners! I'm sure you'll do very well. Best of luck to you.

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    Thank you very much about bringing up the problems with the girls getting together, this is very true! I didn't even think of that, which is crazy because I've done it myself! Not with adult work but with a vanilla job. A bunch of us hated the job and the way management treated us...so we all up and quit on them! And we were totally fueled by sitting out on the back patio every day, for 3 breaks a day and doing nothing but bitching to one another. Ok, get togethers prob NOT the best idea. Ok, maybe like ONCE a year.... I really love planning get togethers *blush* lol.

    No no, will not price us out of the market, will probably put us on par with the longest running agency in town but with better, girls better advertising etc. (And yes I know a few of there girls so I can honestly compare).

    And 35% sound like a good idea. And no joning fee! What the fuck is that jazz? I HATE that! Pay someone $200 just so that you can work there? Gimme a break!

    Thank you very much for all of the great ideas! I'll be sure to take it all into consideration!

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    I am a current escort in Toronto. I have worked for 4 agencies in the last 4 years on the phones, as a manager, as an escort and a little bit of pro-submission. Right now work both indy and through an agency as a GFE.

    I will not tolerate the following from any agency that I choose to hire, in order of importance:
    - Distrust/unprofessional staff. I don't have to like an owner but I have to trust them to some extent. There are some hilarious owners in Toronto, even in the mid-upper range, who have outrageous backstories as to who they are and why they're in the industry. I learnt the hard way and I will never fall for it again.
    - Anything that requires me to give my real name. I've worked my butt off for a great reputation under my working name, that ought to be enough. Even if I wasn't established you'd be asking for a lot of risk from most working girls: our friends and family are unlikely to know what we do. I know an owner in Toronto who publically outed a girl's real name, home address, etc. on a review board. There is no acceptable reason for this. Actually, so long as I pick up my phone and my clients are happy (they'll be more than happy) there is no acceptable reason for you to force me to trust you with my real name. This might include STI tests.
    - Inequal commission from different girls without good reason. If you're willing to take advantage of someone else you're willing to take advantage of me, you're just unable. Not cool.
    - Fees or fines. No $50 cancellation fee, no fine for showing up late, nothing. The one exception is paying for the photographer - I want to own my pictures. I am responsible and making a LOT of money for you, I would not cancel without a damn good reason as it makes me look unreliable as well.
    - Allow me to upsell. In Toronto midrange agencies charge $250/hour and take 40%. I am not fucking someone for $150 (any more). My reputation will follow me to your agency and I'll sell my clients on my rate, you'll still get the same $100. It gives girls the ability to increase their income.
    - An agency must keep an active blacklist. Every new call must be doublechecked against it. A good blacklist is one that contains input from other owners as well, if they're willing. A great list has the bad clients from every possible resource including Maggie's TO, SPOC.ca, etc. (If you need help connecting with owners out here I'm happy to help.)


    Things I dislike in an agency:
    - Slow/no business. I can bring my share of clients but I'd like some from the money I'm paying you to advertise for me. 'Nuff said.
    - Hiring girls without a working knowledge of English. They don't have to understand how to use a semicolon perfectly but they have to understand enough to be consenting participants.
    - I am not cleaning or doing more laundry than my share. I pay you to handle my advertising, book my calls and clean my incall. Changing the roll of TP or throwing a load of laundry in sure; vacuuming or mopping hell no.


    Things that make me really happy:
    - Helpful and active phone staff. Know what's going on, who is where when and what time they're supposed to be done. Different girls like things done differently, ie at my current agency we simply get a text saying "I have an hour for you at 3pm". I like to know client's names, so my text will say "Mike for you at 3pm". Its the little things.
    - Staff that doesn't blame you for things not going well. Client didn't show? I got my period? Driver stuck in traffic? These aren't my fault, don't take it out on me or any other girl.
    - The ability to take days off without penalty. I'll do my best not to book off when you have pre-bookings for me, you do your best to understand that some days I'm just not in the mood. I'd rather cancel than get a bad review and in the long run so would your wallet.
    - Owners with a working knowledge of the industry, what its like in a call, that allow girls reasonable control over their advertising... I'd drop everything to work with an owner who understood the adult industry from a feminist perspective.


    (I sound like a diva and my post is getting long, I'm gonna break it up).

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    Onto your ideas and some problems I anticipate you might run into...

    The idea of perks for women is nice and many agencies advertise it but few actually follow through. Cupids (www.cupidsescorts.com I think?) in Toronto offers to pay 50% of plastic surgery procedures. There was another short-lived agency in Toronto ("The Office") that offered mani/pedis/spa days all kinds of girl bonding activities that folded really quickly. You can find their old ad by searching for The Office on TERB.ca under the Help Wanted section.

    The problem with perks like these, get-togethers included, is that running an agency isn't actually that lucrative. Sure, you can make okay money but the owners I know don't make a killing. There's so much overhead: so many hotel rooms, incall rent, advertising, etc. Plus guaranteeing that a certain girl is going to show up, on time, ready to go AND will rock his world is tough.

    Your idea of discounted massages sounds great but I don't know if every girl, or even most girls, would take you up on it. It'd get really expensive really fast to offer much more.


    Gettogethers are nice (we're doing an agency one in the next few weeks I think) but its awkward and time-consuming. Many of your girls may not like each other, may not live in the city, all kinds of stuff. Maybe just a Christmas one?


    I get where you're coming from on the STI tests but I think you're off-base Every owner wants to make sure the girls they work for are clean and safe but that's really tough to enforce. Aside from the real name thing (and that's a really big aside, because I'd never work for you because of that) what's the point of getting STI tests? Its the responsibility of the women to make sure they're operating safely, both a responsibility to her herself and her clients. You can't advertise a guarantee, or you can and people'll think you're lying, because you don't actually know.

    The *one* way I can think around the douchebaggery that is requiring girls to give full real names is to take the girls to something like the Elizabeth Frye Society's STARS meeting. They offer anonymous STI testing and probably have a location near you. It is a program specifically for sex workers and likely your area meets every week. You could have the public health nurse assign the girls' tests based on their work names and you could get the tests back under their working names... but E Frye is an organization designed for women in conflict with the law and that means primarily street workers. The program isn't really designed for women who aren't struggling with mental health/homelessness issues, at least in my area... but you could always talk to them. One of their premises is to serve the local community in whatever way the community most needs and maybe they'd listen to your need for non-anonymous anonymous STI tests.


    I'd call several of the owners in Toronto friends of mine. They work 24-7 and deal with all kinds of stuff. There's constant pressure and stress... One of my favourites says running an agency is like herding cats. Your board persona is so friendly and positive I'd be happy to help you/put you in contact with whoever I can.

    If you pull this together (and you're not disgusted by my bluntness) I'm touring out West to work with you

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    Hey beck, I have a question.. have you ever worked for cupidescorts? A friend that is here on sw worked for them and they treated her like shit! They even sent her to a call where she had to see the guy IN A KITCHEN like a restaurant kitchen.. so please I would like to know your experience with them. if any

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    Hey Becky, I PMed you back on the msg you sent me.

    Ok first I want to say, thank you SO much. There was so much constructive and useful information in that post, it was so helpful. It definately gives me a new angle to think about the STI testing. As for real names, in my city agency owners HAVE to be able to provide the names and ages of the girls working for them to the police (incase the police to a check) for underaged girls and things like that. It's a legal requirement so unfortunately there is just no getting around that for me if I want to be legal.

    Other than that though everything sounds great. Hahaha, and do NOT worry about your tone, you were very forthright and honest with a lot to say. I will be sure to read it over again a few times to make sure that I've gotten everything. And thanks for your offer of help. *hugs*

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    Wow running a reputable escort agency.. Yikes!
    Imagine all the high stress involved

    Cops bothering you (yes they do sometimes in Canada here to), unsatisfied clients, review boards, bookings, blacklists, screening, advertising, no shows, time wasters, the escorts problems to deal with..

    A lot of agencys tend to use the girls as piggy banks and could care less about there well being or whether or not she is sti free.

    I don't know how many escorts would be comfortable either with the constant sti testing either...

    Kudos to you if this works out for you!
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    Everything that all of the girls here contributed is right on! Please pay heed to what exotic0690 added as well, a lot of headaches are involved, so be prepared to deal. There are just as many weirdos and time wasters responding to escorting ads as there are in your cam room every night, trust me!

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    On a side note, I'm touring to Canada to work with you too! How awesome would that be...to have all the girls from SW to be there working with you side by side, helping you get this baby off the ground

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    ive been contacting a few agencies with no reply, is there a way to get ahold of the that makes you seem less sketchy or something?

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    ok im not an working just yet, still doing my research. however sites that show the girls face and says "this girl stole from us" is really trashy. i dont want to work for them now. i think it would just be better to keep it professional rather than have your site like that.

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    ok im not an working just yet, still doing my research. however sites that show the girls face and says "this girl stole from us" is really trashy. i dont want to work for them now. i think it would just be better to keep it professional rather than have your site like that.
    This is common in escorting.
    Bait and switch operations are everywhere....there is nothing trash about exposing a scam artist giving this line of work a bad rep .... As you refer to as trashy.
    Hence the reason why there are review boards.
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    i understand, thanks for clearing that up

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisakim99 View Post
    ok im not an working just yet, still doing my research. however sites that show the girls face and says "this girl stole from us" is really trashy. i dont want to work for them now. i think it would just be better to keep it professional rather than have your site like that.
    Just to clarify, are you referring to agencies who post former escorts pics on a wall of shame? Meaning the escorts never turned in their drops? That is really tacky. I don't blame you for avoiding those agencies. Sounds like a bunch of drama.

    Arialandre, when are you starting your agency?

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    I have no idea WHEN I'm starting the agency ladies. An agency business license in my city is $3,000! Sooooo, I'm going to have to work my ass of and save my pennies, so it probably wont be ant time soon. But thats ok, as it gives me time to plan and organise everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikkidarling View Post
    Just to clarify, are you referring to agencies who post former escorts pics on a wall of shame? Meaning the escorts never turned in their drops? That is really tacky. I don't blame you for avoiding those agencies. Sounds like a bunch of drama.

    Arialandre, when are you starting your agency?
    No. She is referring to bait and switch operations.

    What is a drop?
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