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    Ugh! I know I should not really be worried about the camscore thing since it is all just a scam anyways. However I have 2 mfc accounts since I just opened the one up for Princess Jenny's daily pay. My new account has a cam score of like 867 and my other account which I have had for almost a year, has a score of over 1000. I rarely even go on that account and just ugh wth. A while back I opened another account on mfc haha to use a different name and sure enough my first account still has the higher cam score. I closed the other one but eh dunno what to do. It is really pissing me off that the account that I don't really want to use has that high score and is like my lucky mfc account where as my other ones are like garbage. Sorry for the rant just annoyed!

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    my mfc rant: mfc sucks
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    MFC rant: i do really well, and my score drops 100 points. (i dont get it)

    dont worry chick, mfc will hurt if they carry onn favouring people with camscore scams, its the fact that studios stick a new model online with 12k camscore, they just give it aload of tokens before the girl go's live. MFC need to take this into account, but what do they care, they get extra tokens for fuck all.

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    I personally hate the look a studio gives. I flip right past those girls when I'm wandering around MFC.

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    I just wish MFC would do away with camscores. It's lame, in my opinion, and MFC models have enough shit to deal with as it is, without having to worry about what score she's currently at. I feel that as long as I'm making money on there and have a good star rating, I should be satisfied. But sometimes one can't help but wonder WTF? when a camscore is just sitting there at 700something even after getting a shitload of tokens. Too bad they don't just get rid of camscores and just stick with star ratings...it'd be one less thing for models to have to worry about.

    And a while ago, I didn't even know that you can have camscores higher than 1000. Since that's what new models start out with, I had just assumed that is THE BEST score you could have, but damn was I wrong! LOTS of the models on there have 5-digit camscores. I try not to stress it too much though, because I realize that there are many girls on there who are pros at this and do extremely well that they don't even need a second income. They get 1,000 or more dudes in their room and get tips even when they walk away to grab a cup of coffee...lol. That's awesome for them!

    That night I had gotten a 500-token tip and 400-token tips from a couple of the guys...I was in shock! I had even taken a printscreen shot of it and saved it, but of course when I uploaded that photo onto my profile, shortly after that it started showing that 'tinypic image has been deleted' error box. That really pissed me off. I seem to have a hard time uploading images to my MFC wall AND to my photo section. I have some sexy model photos that, for some reason, will never upload right every time I try (but yet my other photos with the SAME pixels size DO upload correctly...wtf).
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    I've got a good camscore but I havent been on there in forever. It's too much pain and not enough gain if you ask me.
    TheBrownFox is right, models there have enough shit to deal with without worrying about their $/hr ratio in order to get their camscore up. Especially on a site that is so hit and miss with good and bad nights.
    If I'm working freecam I end up doing a lot fewer hrs than I can do if I can turn freecam on and off. It burns me out so much quicker and overall I get less income, even if I do well for those couple of hrs.

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    oh and PS. the reason my camscore got up there in the first place is ONLY cause i had regs that followed me there and tipped from the first day. Most of the girls I know who are doing well there (who dont have the whole studio thing) got it the same way I did. They had regs from other sites. They got a big leap up within the first week. Otherwise I think it is really hard to build your score up over a few thousand if you are just relying on the traffic that comes thru MFC. The odds are stacked against new girls... it was probably a lot easier like 1-2 yrs ago to have more mobility up the page, but a lot harder now.
    Just something to keep in mind, unless you're lucky, it's real hard to increase your cam score a lot more than a few thousand without regs who follow you.... and the longer you're online not earning tokens per hr or lower on the page, the harder it is to climb up by averages, since you have all that low earning time behind you.
    I also used to do things to bring in a lot of offline tips more than online tips, and thats always great for the camscore as its tokens for no time online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowC View Post
    I've got a good camscore but I havent been on there in forever. It's too much pain and not enough gain if you ask me.
    TheBrownFox is right, models there have enough shit to deal with without worrying about their $/hr ratio in order to get their camscore up. Especially on a site that is so hit and miss with good and bad nights.
    If I'm working freecam I end up doing a lot fewer hrs than I can do if I can turn freecam on and off. It burns me out so much quicker and overall I get less income, even if I do well for those couple of hrs.

    What probably ends up happening sometimes is that, being that MFC is a mandatory free chat site, sometimes models don't feel like dealing with the shit and they don't log on for a couple days or more. Then the guys who are devoted to MFC (who get on there at least once daily) see that the model hasn't been on in a couple days, and end up losing interest in waiting around for her to come back. I feel like this is what may have happened with some of my guys, I'm not sure. But then again, there is ALWAYS a HUGE amount of girls live on MFC, no matter what time of day it is. That's one thing a horny MFC guy will never have to worry about...a shortage of live models.

    Free chat can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but no matter how irritated you may get, always try to at least be smiling and talking. Guys on there are like attention deficit, so if they're in your chat for 10 seconds and you're just staring blankly at the screen, they're gonna exit and move on to the next model. Shit can be crazy sometimes, because last night I told myself I'll be nice and even let the guests and basics talk this time...haha. Almost immediately some basic named 'TimmyTebow' called me a 'nigger'. *rolls eyes* When guys do shit like that, I laugh about how they got no money and like to hide behind their little computers talking shit, wishing they could get laid while desperately posting ads on Craigslist (no offense to guys/girls of CL...I used to post ads there looking for model/fetish paid gigs...it sucks that they took out adult gigs).
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    Also, MFC is the only site where I feel like I HAVE to have music on at all times. Don't get me wrong...I love having music on, but there's so many eyes and ears on you at all times that even when a song starts skipping like crazy, it's kinda embarassing...lol. Guys have very high expectations on there and act like there's something wrong with a model wearing her Snuggie or blanket when it's 20-freakin degrees in the house...lol. Even if you have on a bra and short-shorts guys will complain that you "got too much clothes on." *rolls eyes*

    Hey, if there's been no tipping for quite some time, and I'm covered in goosebumps...fuck it, I'm putting on the Snuggie. HAHA. Guys who are truly amazed by you and/or are your loyal fans will stay in your room regardless, and will tip if they can, because it really isn't all about looks. They like a hottie with a nice personality who's acknowledging their presence. Well, some of them appreciate this, and some of them really are just rude cheapos who just wanna bust real quick before wifey gets home.
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    If someone asked me to build a scoring system designed to reward the models that generated the highest net earnings for the company (e.g. MFC), I would measure productivity with something like average tips per minute and popularity with something like average number of or percentage of premium members per hour on-cam. I would also score offline tips higher than on-cam tips since there are minimal bandwidth costs. To keep models working towards the goals I would have the most recent scores represent more of the total (like 60%) and older scores (last week, last month) worth less (30%, 10%, ...). Not sure if I would give privates and groups any additional weight: I don't know what the added network costs are for providing those features.

    To get even geekier, if the company had a bunch of data on the models' day-to-day performance, someone could just model (no pun intended) the cam workplace and have the system spit out estimates of what combination of attributes generates the highest net revenues...

    Any system like this can be gamed, and it looks like it is being gamed. One note. Systems, either man-made or computer-generated, are bad at recognizing what makes someone a superstar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    Also, MFC is the only site where I feel like I HAVE to have music on at all times. Don't get me wrong...I love having music on, but there's so many eyes and ears on you at all times that even when a song starts skipping like crazy, it's kinda embarassing...lol. Guys have very high expectations on there and act like there's something wrong with a model wearing her Snuggie or blanket when it's 20-freakin degrees in the house...lol. Even if you have on a bra and short-shorts guys will complain that you "got too much clothes on." *rolls eyes*

    Hey, if there's been no tipping for quite some time, and I'm covered in goosebumps...fuck it, I'm putting on the Snuggie. HAHA. Guys who are truly amazed by you and/or are your loyal fans will stay in your room regardless, and will tip if they can, because it really isn't all about looks. They like a hottie with a nice personality who's acknowledging their presence. Well, some of them appreciate this, and some of them really are just rude cheapos who just wanna bust real quick before wifey gets home.

    i come on cam in a t-shirt an panties quite often, its too damn cold for bra's an bikini tops every night, i do wear bra sets ect, but only wen im warm enough. ive even been online in my huge thick dressing gown, big baggy hoodies, tracky bottoms. if they wanna see flesh they gotta pay lol, i aint gettin a cold coz they want me naked 24/7 for no $$$.

    My regs to the room actually tell me put clothes on wen they can see me shivering lol, had a few tip notes stating "get a jumper on" LOL, piss's basics right off haha.

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    I don't like the camscore either, but mine is at 1661 right now (down from ~1800) and I'm okay with that. I was doing lots of things to pull in offline tips, because it makes your score go up fast. I just haven't been feeling like putting the effort in lately.
    I need to get back into the "this is a job" mindset.


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    If you have to cover up to stay warm while camming its your problem, not the customers!

    the only problem with cam is girls who give it up for free, which encourages aholes to want free shit! other than that its the easiest job in the world but some girls make it harder than the rest of it.

    if no girls gave free shit away or "hid" under a blanket the rest of us could make money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    Also, MFC is the only site where I feel like I HAVE to have music on at all times. Don't get me wrong...I love having music on, but there's so many eyes and ears on you at all times that even when a song starts skipping like crazy, it's kinda embarassing...lol. Guys have very high expectations on there and act like there's something wrong with a model wearing her Snuggie or blanket when it's 20-freakin degrees in the house...lol. Even if you have on a bra and short-shorts guys will complain that you "got too much clothes on." *rolls eyes*

    Hey, if there's been no tipping for quite some time, and I'm covered in goosebumps...fuck it, I'm putting on the Snuggie. HAHA. Guys who are truly amazed by you and/or are your loyal fans will stay in your room regardless, and will tip if they can, because it really isn't all about looks. They like a hottie with a nice personality who's acknowledging their presence. Well, some of them appreciate this, and some of them really are just rude cheapos who just wanna bust real quick before wifey gets home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DominoDiva View Post
    My regs to the room actually tell me put clothes on wen they can see me shivering lol, had a few tip notes stating "get a jumper on" LOL, piss's basics right off haha.

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    I love the regs. Even when they don't have money/tokens, it's still nice to see them in the room making friendly conversation and telling the other beggars to tip or at least rate and admire...hehe. And I also love doing private shows where the guy is cool and says you can just relax and watch him instead. And yeah, when they don't wanna see you shivering, that's pretty cool also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyLynne View Post
    If you have to cover up to stay warm while camming its your problem, not the customers!

    the only problem with cam is girls who give it up for free, which encourages aholes to want free shit! other than that its the easiest job in the world but some girls make it harder than the rest of it.

    if no girls gave free shit away or "hid" under a blanket the rest of us could make money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    You might wanna watch your tone when speaking to the SW ladies on here, because I noticed that you were talking slick to someone else on here (and she had to tell you to get the thong outta your ass...lol) and also made a snide lil remark about PrincessJenny (whom we all love on here). My only problem right now is your attitude. Seriously...WHO ARE YOU?

    And who said anything about "hiding" under a blanket? LMAO. Don't be blaming me or anybody else just because you're not making any money. Instead of complaining about what you think other models are doing, maybe you should try making some changes in your attitude and the way you do things on cam? I bet if you treated people better and stopped acting bitchy, you could make money. And, by the way, you're working for a studio...

    Go take a nice bubble bath and relax or something.....

    And if you have a problem with cam girls venting on the forums (We do that on here a lot, honey...get over it), then SW really isn't the place for you, so get to steppin.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyLynne View Post
    If you have to cover up to stay warm while camming its your problem, not the customers!

    the only problem with cam is girls who give it up for free, which encourages aholes to want free shit! other than that its the easiest job in the world but some girls make it harder than the rest of it.

    if no girls gave free shit away or "hid" under a blanket the rest of us could make money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Um i take back the apology i gave you earlier. You're a fucking BITCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amberluv View Post
    Um i take back the apology i gave you earlier. You're a fucking BITCH.

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    I agree totally!

    I came on here to find that she was talking all that shit in response to MY post...wtf? I don't even know this broad, nor do I want to, after reading several of her negative posts (posts on other SW forums as well).

    Someone on a different SW forum started a thread venting about things being slow at around the holidays, and this chick responds by saying "It's the most 'wonderful time of the year'...deal with it!!!" I'm like wtf???

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    i wasnt sure if i read the emotion of the post right, but now i see others have picked up on it, i too felt that ur post AmyLynne sounded very aggresive, we vent here, coz we can, an others understand our vents here, and if i wanna sit at my cam room in a fucking jumper, i bloody damn well will!!!!! You cant compare the ones who cover up for warmth with the ones who show it all for free! u should be happy girls do this, not moaning, it does the opposite effect, makes ppl see the girls who havnt got jumpers on. I only do it wen im cold, and my home is pretty chilly atm since we're stuck in 2 feet of snow, with a fan heater in my room that sucks electricity.

    Please check ur attitude at the door when talkin to us girls here, we are sposed to support each other, we do the same job, not attack each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DominoDiva View Post
    i wasnt sure if i read the emotion of the post right, but now i see others have picked up on it, i too felt that ur post AmyLynne sounded very aggresive, we vent here, coz we can, an others understand our vents here, and if i wanna sit at my cam room in a fucking jumper, i bloody damn well will!!!!! You cant compare the ones who cover up for warmth with the ones who show it all for free! u should be happy girls do this, not moaning, it does the opposite effect, makes ppl see the girls who havnt got jumpers on. I only do it wen im cold, and my home is pretty chilly atm since we're stuck in 2 feet of snow, with a fan heater in my room that sucks electricity.

    Please check ur attitude at the door when talkin to us girls here, we are sposed to support each other, we do the same job, not attack each other.

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    This.

    And I should also point out that on that night when I was getting 500-token tips and 400-token tips, it happened at a moment when I was barely wearing a thing. SOMETIMES already being topless or already showing bare ass does pay off, though when I do take that route, I will usually only stay that way when tips are flowing. If it's too quiet and I haven't gotten a tip or even a peep in like a few minutes, then the clothes are coming back on. I can tolerate being cold for a couple minutes (gotta look at the big picture here...if you're doing something often that earns you lots of tokens, keep it up!) if it means more money in my pocket and paying my bills.

    And you, AmyLynne, are not paying my bills nor are you paying for my son's Christmas presents, so don't tell me what I can or can't do in my own damn chatroom. I'm not the one on here crying about not making money "cuz of other hosts."
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    so... what's the deal with blanket hating? I don't get it? o.O I'm covered up and warm in free chat, what's wrong with that? lol? And I hope MFC figures its system out because I kind of like it, but i make so much more on the other sites that it's just a waste of time for me...
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    so... what's the deal with blanket hating? I don't get it? o.O I'm covered up and warm in free chat, what's wrong with that?



    Yeah, that's what I said. She was complaining about my comment about putting my Snuggie or blanket on (she said that I'm "hiding" under my blanket...lmao), but in the same breath she complains about girls showing too much for free. *rolls eyes* Um...ok.....

    And I'm damn sure gonna have my Snuggie or blanket by my side tonight. Winter sucks.
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    If someone asked me to build a scoring system designed to reward the models that generated the highest net earnings for the company (e.g. MFC), I would measure productivity with something like average tips per minute and popularity with something like average number of or percentage of premium members per hour on-cam. I would also score offline tips higher than on-cam tips since there are minimal bandwidth costs. To keep models working towards the goals
    We have several people who study the camscores and always are working at cracking the algorithm, since we do promotion, and from our research, you are VERY close.

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    Couple of quick points.

    First MFC is MUCH more fun with a camscore higher than say, 4000...MUCH. I'm not sure how beautiful ladies like yourselves end up with camscores of 1800, much less UNDER 1000....We may need to do a camscore school soon.

    The women I work with promoting pretty much never are below 3k and usually are 5k-8k. One tip for today....make sure you ask your regulars to PLEASE rate all tips to you. The tip must be above, I believe either 90 or 100. They do this in the configuration area of their account. They can rate the tip 10 and it will bump camscore.

    Also, counts work well, countdowns or countups. Since they tend to bring a steadier tip count in.

    If you are about to do a show of some sort (which means anything sexy besides just sitting in front of the cam), ask one of your premium regs to jump into the Lounge and announce it for you, which will bring the Premium Count up in your room.

    There's more, but the #1 thing on MFC, in my opinion, is to alway be doing SOMETHING. There are a few hundred girls sitting and looking cute on cam and talking...so you are one in a few hundred...there are even probably 50-100 girls often sitting and talking either fully or partially nude...so yer 1 in 50 or 100. But there are VERY few naked trapeze girls...girls doing human Christmas tree light sculpture on their naked bodies, etc. Stuff that FOR SURE makes em stop and say "Hmmm!"

    Lastly, one polite comment on snuggies and blankets. I'm not going to say thing like the "Studio" girl.

    You're job here is one of "erotic fantasy girl" and as such, while there may be a few blanket and snuggie guys out there, you should kinda try to present yourself at all times as a hot erotic sexual fantasy come true. So I say this...if you are happy with your job as webcam girl, and it makes you great money....Why are you cold at work? I mean, truly think about this...Heaters are an investment that will FOR SURE pay itself back, if you are warm and able to be "HOT and sexy" online. If you have electric heaters, you should be blowing a fuse to stay warm daily...because it isn't about your comfort, it's about your INCOME.

    That being said, I would never tell you what to wear, just that whateve it is, it should maximize your income.

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    ^^Maybe that's why mine dropped so quickly - I had a reg who used to announce my shows in the lounge, but he's on vacation right now... damn. haha Thanks for the tips


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    Facts are facts...

    1. The girls who give away free shows hurt us all. Guys start going to them for freebies rather than paying for girls who understand the tease aspect works better and I generally think we are higher quality in everything we do.

    2. I liked MFC when I was on it. But I didnt enjoy having the studio rip me off of 1800 that I earned. That said I dont think all studios are bad. I just think that the companies need to identify the bad ones and get rid of them. If a studio rips a model off they shouldnt be a studio anymore and the company should pay girls directly.

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