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    Default Bikini Contests - Essential Rite of Passage for Strippers?

    The more I see of bikini contests (believe me, I see lots), the more convinced I am that they offer a great opportunity for aspiring strippers.

    Some of the basic elements of working as a stripper are there: you have to present yourself wearing next-to-nothing in front of a male audience, then perform to win their support by parading and posing. You need the same confidence and exhibitionism that applies to working in a club. You must be totally comfortable about showing off your body in public. You're competing with other girls.

    Another comparison: bikini contests and strip clubs are hated by feminists. The spectacle of girls being "served up" for men's entertainment is offensive to them in either setting, and the fact that bikini contestants are numbered adds to their outrage. (For that reason, any feminists reading this post are advised not to open the attachment of a NOPI contest below)

    Finally, the poll. No doubt many ladies on this forum have entered bikini contests. How useful are they for somebody contemplating life as a stripper? And if you have any funny stories about your experiences, do share

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    I don't see much of a connection. Stripping is a SALES job. Bikini contests involve being inspected like a piece of meat, no selling going on. I think they are more about ego/showing off hard work and dedication at the gym, or to be noticed as a model. They don't have much in common besides involving hot chics.

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    Default Re: Bikini Contests - Essential Rite of Passage for Strippers?

    and theyre mostly fixed. local promoters use them to get business for a bar etc but dont know how to run them and its not the promoters fault but often what happens is a girl who isnt so hot happens to bring in more friends or is willing to do sex acts to get the win when its audience voting.

    when its a judges panel the bar or promoter often has fixed the contest. I know one promoter in Colorado who does this so his friend who mc's them and their oil wrestling contests can get girls!

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    I got started as a Spring Break DJ, running bikini and wet T-shirt contests. There are a few similarities, and women who like entering bikini contests are indeed a lot more likely to be good at stripping than the average woman. But there are major differences as well.

    What's really funny is, I used to have crowds as big as 1,500--a bunch of drunk, horny, crazy, out-of-control frat boys, etc.--with no security on hand. And you could have these guys in the palm of your hand, I swear. Though there were occasional problems, of course. But DJing for even as few as a dozen dancers in a little club on a slow night? Much, much harder work!
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    I think bikini contests are far more degrading than stripping. I don't think I ever did one because yes they are fixed.

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    I don't see a great similarity except this: the type of exhibitionists in a bikini contest contains more women open to stripping (and vicee versa) by percentage than the average population.

    Ask 100 women in a crowd if they'd strip or do contests (including prudes, moms, etc) and the yes count would be lower than in 100 women who are sexy, confident, adventurous enough to dance or do contests.

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    Not unless they are selling lap-dances to the crowd after it.... hmm why hasn't anyone ever thought of that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacy Luck View Post
    Bikini contests involve being inspected like a piece of meat
    I saw a particularly good (or bad) example of this in a London night-club a few years ago. The five "lucky" finalists were required to get down on their hands and knees and present themselves on all fours for one last look by the judges - at first one by one, then collectively.

    The crowd loved it, of course, and they soon had more to cheer about. "Would you like a close-up look at these crawling cuties?" asked the MC. He was pushing at an open door. It quickly became clear why the finalists had been presented with knee-pads.

    The stage was T-shaped, with the judges located in the wide area up top. Spectators were seated on both sides of the narrow runway that formed the base of the T. You may have guessed where this is going.

    "Start crawling, ladies" the MC commanded. "Gentlemen, stand by to receive a convoy of cuties." The five girls, wearing postage-stamp bikinis that made them look near-naked, formed a line and began down the runway on all fours. The cheers and whistles were deafening as the guys reacted to this extraordinary display of T & A. The judges stood up to get a better view.

    After performing a delicate turning maneuver at the end of the runway, the "convoy" made its way up the other side. But the entertainment wasn't over yet.

    "So, gentlemen, you've seen the girls from both sides," said the MC. "Would you like to see them from the front - and the rear?" The place went wild.

    Within seconds the girls were moving down the runway again. This time they were crawling sideways, so that while one half of the room was enjoying their front view, the other half got to look at their behinds. The visual treats were reversed when the "convoy" turned for home.

    The MC had one final surprise in store. With the girls back near the top of the stage, facing the judges, he got them down on all fours again. "I think you'll agree, gentlemen, these are five fit young fillies," he said. "But let's find out exactly how fit they are! C'mon, girls, get your knees as far apart as possible!"

    Without hesitating, the girls did what was expected of them until they were - quite literally - at full stretch. This spectacle produced another huge cheer.

    I don't remember who won the contest at the end of the night or whether I thought she was the hottest contestant. But I'll never forget the way the girls were made to "perform" to ensure maximum entertainment for us guys.

    And sorry for taking so long to make the point, but yes, they certainly were served up like pieces of meat for inspection.

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    Default Re: Bikini Contests - Essential Rite of Passage for Strippers?

    Yep. thats how bad they are.

    if its not a legit company like hawaiian tropic or such you will be humiliated by mc's who are basically wannabe pimps and losers who promote contests for their own self gratification.

    the girls that should win based on looks and all that often get beat out by the girls who shouldnt win because they often get dirty and play up to the MC. ghetto trash!

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    Wow I didn't know the MCs could be so bad! That guy Tabletalker described should be dragged out and shot.

    Though a fair number were insulting to the women in Daytona (where I saw by far the most contests admittedly), so have been a lot of the idiot brand SCDJs I've seen in a wide variety of clubs. Some of the Daytona contests were clearly rigged, the ones we ran were not--we went by audience noise levels. But unfortunately sometimes the crowds did cheer loudest for the skanks getting nasty.

    Even then, there are also little tricks to get the crowd to cheer more for certain contestants, a shrewd MC/DJ can do this pretty easily. I tried not to but I've seen it done many times. I've also seen this done in costume and other kinds of contests with big crowds and winners chosen by noise levels.

    Perhaps the longest running major contest series I know of was in California in the 90s, the California Bikini Classic which ran a number of years. That MC was a gentleman, at least, and very respectful about it.
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    Not similar at all. Some strip clubs do have "amateur night" contests though. This is how they hire girls. I had to do one once. It was fun, but I wouldn't have done it if I didn't have to in order to get hired.

    When stripping on stage, you are getting tips and/or marketing yourself for lapdances. In a contest, only the winner gets paid. So most of the time, you're wasting half an evening waiting for a contest to start that you aren't likely to get squat from. And the girl who won...well, she was very attractive but there was nothing special about her show and she didn't get the loudest applause by a long shot. I think the manager declared her the winner because he wanted to fuck her. Seriously, when they announced she won, the crowd got all quiet and was like WTF?

    I also feel that bikini contests are degrading, oddly enough. Not sure why I don't consider stripping degrading...showing 50 men my vagina for a couple of bucks....strange....

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    I know a place in Denver where a promoter helped a bar build up their contests so theyd get like 10-12 girls to enter. Then another promoter came in and brought in ghetto trash and made all the girls do degrading things to win. The girls that werent hot or sexy and would play ball would win.

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    ^^^ Is this by any chance the contests being held at places like Woody's & winners were supposed to get $200-$500 depending if they too 1st, 2nd or 3rd?

    If it is, many of the models didn't get paid, not the supporting staff. I never got involved, but know multiple that got screwed by them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    Wow I didn't know the MCs could be so bad! That guy Tabletalker described should be dragged out and shot.
    He typified a certain attitude that you find in the British tabloid media, where pin-up girls are nice to look at but easy to make fun of. In fact, one other aspect of the London bikini contest summed up this attitude very well.

    When it came time for the five finalists to engage in the "Crawling Competition" in front of the judges' table, the MC announced that the girls would be penalized points if they took more than 10 seconds to reach the "Crawling Zone", a designated area in the middle of the stage.

    At first I couldn't understand this. How could it take more than a few seconds to get from the side of the stage to the centre of it?

    I found out when he called the number of the first finalist. She wasn't walking. She was down on all fours and had to continue in that position for the rest of her journey. The moment she appeared and began to quick-crawl across the stage, the MC got the crowd to count her down from 10.

    There was a mixture of laughter and cheers from the audience as she jiggled and wiggled her way to the appointed area, just in time.

    For the next three minutes or so she crawled at a much slower speed to impress the three judges. One of them was a woman, and they occasionally stood up for a better view. At times they pointed for the girl to move in a certain direction.

    The guys could see all this on screens further down the hall and they lapped up every detail. They found it very erotic. The pattern was repeated for each of the other four girls, only one of them incurring "time-faults".

    It must be said that the girls didn't object to anything they were asked to do. They seemed to enjoy being the centre of attention, despite the attitude of the MC.

    There were only three cash prizes, and I felt sorry for the two girls who missed out.

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    Most of them yes.

    I got paid when I placed. But the guy who dj's and does door at Nitro runs them now and hes total trash. He fixes the contests and the girls he brings in are trash like what works at platinum 84 or players club nd theyre beating girls who would be at the top echelon of shotguns or penthouse.

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    ^^^ Is this by any chance the contests being held at places like Woody's & winners were supposed to get $200-$500 depending if they too 1st, 2nd or 3rd?

    If it is, many of the models didn't get paid, not the supporting staff. I never got involved, but know multiple that got screwed by them.

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    Back when I was doing the Spring Break stuff I would see this happening (letting skanks beat the truly hot, classier girls), sometimes with the DJ/MCs I was helping, more often with many of the other DJ/MCs running contests.

    At the height of Spring Break in Daytona, and for a few years afterward, you would have numerous contests every day, at the various hotel pool decks, and also at night at all the various nightclubs. So there was a wide variety of contests, both in size, the number of 'ringers' in the contests, and in the way they were run; and depending to quite an extent on the level of sleaziness in the DJ/MCs.

    I saw way more of this 'rewarding the skanks' than I cared for, but it wasn't universally done. Certainly not in any contests I ran. I wanted the hot girls to be glad they entered, so they and their friends would enter again. A lot of these ringers used to come down for Spring Break and enter contests for six weeks, switching it up so that they were in different contests every day. The ringers hated it when the sleazy fuckers let the skanks win, only an idiot could fail to see this. Nonetheless a lot of the sleazy guys did it every time.

    But there were a lot of sleazy motherfuckers in Daytona, especially during Spring Break. One thing that always annoyed the hell out of me--the vast majority of these sleazy assholes could never seem to resist spanking the contestants, especially if they had a nice ass. I never did this. I didn't want to see the asshole getting to spank the girls as an observer, I figured the guys would not be interested in seeing me spank the contestants either. It's such a blatant self-serving routine.

    Oh, I just remembered, during Bike Week (which was kind of a warm up to Spring Break in Daytona), the 'skank factor' was way, way higher.


    But I am starting to wonder if the kind of contests some of you are talking about are a different phenomenon.
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    The more I think about it, the more dissimilar those two are and the idea of a bikini contest being some rite of passage is ludicrous.

    In the club, we are competing, but not for a single prize. We are competing for a wide distribution of dollars from many men. Bikini contests judge solely on physique, looks, and maybe raunchy behavior. A very good hustler that isn't the most typically beautiful can walk out of the club with more money than all of the hotter girls combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    I think bikini contests are far more degrading than stripping.
    I think the ultimate "cattle-market moment" in a bikini contest comes when all the girls, standing in line across the stage, turn their backs on the audience in order to show off their "hind-quarters."

    With their faces invisible to the guys, the girls lose their individuality. Instead, they look like a mass display of "rump meat."

    Come to think of it, the MC's voice plays the part of a cattle-prod, moving the "livestock" into prime position for inspection.

    Needless to say, the "produce" has already been "tagged" by means of numbering to aid identification and discussion by judges and spectators.

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    Yes. bar contests are degrading and I would tell girls not to do them. Unless its hawaiian tropic or some professionally managed event where investors and backers invest big money along with sonsors dont do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    One thing that always annoyed the hell out of me--the vast majority of these sleazy assholes could never seem to resist spanking the contestants, especially if they had a nice ass.
    That's outrageous - and totally out of order. How did people react?

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    Default Re: Bikini Contests - Essential Rite of Passage for Strippers?

    No doubt many ladies on this forum have entered bikini contests.
    Can't say I would ever enter into a bikini contest. Not enough cash prizes involved.




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    Never do bar contests of any kind. You have nothing but wannbe promoters who indulge their sick fantasies and nothe money is never enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyLynne View Post
    Most of them yes.

    I got paid when I placed. But the guy who dj's and does door at Nitro runs them now and hes total trash. He fixes the contests and the girls he brings in are trash like what works at platinum 84 or players club nd theyre beating girls who would be at the top echelon of shotguns or penthouse.
    How long ago did you compete? I think the problems started about two years ago. I knew 2-3 models that didn't get paid on those, & then a photographer too.

    Yes, usually the bar/club bikini contests are a crock of ****. I also had a friend who competed in one of "Mr." Martin's contests. One of my friends won a trip & never saw it. I also regularly hear of girls not getting their photos back from him.
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    Default Re: Bikini Contests - Essential Rite of Passage for Strippers?

    Bikini contests are kinda gross in my opinion. Ive never competed in one but I find them much more degrading than stripping. I think if a girl has the confidence to compete in one then she might have the confidence to strip but she will only be so good without a hustle. Ive seen really hot girls with no hustle still make lots of money, but they pretty much have to be magazine hot with a still decent personality.

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    Unprofessional, fly-by-night bikini contests or even dance contests for that matter are degrading and down right an OMG to watch. Girls end up doing whatever draws the most crowd attention and it ain't pretty.They are usually fixed and the prizes are often not guaranteed.

    I was told by two stripclubs I auditioned for that I had to go through their amateur night contest just to get a job there. I was so new to the business and didn't know any better. So, I did what they required.

    I was subjected to the most bs ever. It was the worst lighting conditions. The dj was offensive. They gave me a sex product to try and sell on stage, wtf. They even had me do a dance off, wtf. Of course, I was the classiest one up there. The crowd hated me because I refused to "get down and dirty" for a larger crowd response.

    Needless to say, after all of that humiliation I was never offered a job. They just wanted me to fill a spot in their amateur night and then told me afterword "we have too many girls right now sorry."

    Coincidentally, the women that won both contests in these places were both employees, wtf. Such bs, so unfair, and not worth my sanity or dignity.

    AND NO, I don't think it's a rite of passage for strippers.
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