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    What would make a strip club customer a pathetic loser?
    Going once a week, fortnight, month etc?

    I've read stories about people who go every week and just sit there and watch and not buy dances. Also stories where they only come to see their favourite dancer/s and spend a heap on them. Exactly how much money do these people have to blow?

    I've only been twice. The first time it was planned with friends, because some of us had never been to one before. The second time wasn't planned at all. We just had a fun night out and decided to visit the strip club, because it was down the street.

    My best friend and I are thinking about going every second month. It's a good place to escape work and all the drama in our lives.

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    IF they dont spend on the girls.

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    Default Re: What would you classify a PL?

    Definitely not spending on the girls, especially if they come in really often (like the guys who are there every day). I'd also classify a PL as a guy who doesn't get that strip clubs are a fantasy, and goes there to get a date or save girls or whatever.

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    Default Re: What would you classify a PL?

    all of the above. add as soon as you start to get on my nerves.

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    Default Re: What would you classify a PL?

    Interesting...

    Years ago PL meant something very different than what it appears to mean now. A PL used to be a guy who spent money blindly on the ladies thinking that they actually liked him...

    I guess it's all relative. GFE, MILF and many other popular expressions and acronyms all seem to mean different things to different folks nowadays. One more reason why I don't bother too often with labels.
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    Default Re: What would you classify a PL?

    In my world, PLs are people who don't spend money on any of the girls, try to make the girls feel guilty for being strippers (so hypocritical!), or try to put the girls down to make themselves feel superior. This also includes people who lie to strippers to gain something, such as by saying they're going to buy a CR in x minutes, and end up backing out of the deal.

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    Default Re: What would you classify a PL?

    Min, most dancers I know would gladly see you walk in the door as often as you want as long as you are spending on them.

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    Agree with all of the above. At one club I worked at we used to get these loser guys in later in the evening. One of my dancer co workers used to call them the left hand club.

    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Interesting...

    Years ago PL meant something very different than what it appears to mean now. A PL used to be a guy who spent money blindly on the ladies thinking that they actually liked him...

    I guess it's all relative. GFE, MILF and many other popular expressions and acronyms all seem to mean different things to different folks nowadays. One more reason why I don't bother too often with labels.
    These guys are just sad cases. I hesitate to call them losers but they are the ones that often made me guilty taking their money. Not guilty enough to stop taking money, just that I hated leading them on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Interesting...

    Years ago PL meant something very different than what it appears to mean now. A PL used to be a guy who spent money blindly on the ladies thinking that they actually liked him...

    I guess it's all relative. GFE, MILF and many other popular expressions and acronyms all seem to mean different things to different folks nowadays. One more reason why I don't bother too often with labels.
    When people in the club use the term to me your definition is what I think of.

    Personally I think of "loser" as a guy not spending money, & a OL as one trying to pick up an entertainer while she's working. However, I don't really call them that outlook even in the dressing room because its pretty non-descriptive, normally I'll say the customer is "cheap" or "trying to hook-up with an entertainer".
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Min, most dancers I know would gladly see you walk in the door as often as you want as long as you are spending on them.
    But that wouldn't exempt the customer from being considered a PL by the dancer. I know dancers who regularly take money from guys they think little or nothing of. I think the fact of the matter is that everyone has a different take on the phrase. Anyone who goes in there for any reason will not be thought highly of by somebody for some reason. It doesn't matter if they spend highly or not, are a regular or not, look for extras or not, or are just killing time or not. Nobody visiting the club is safe from being looked down upon by somebody else. Hell, I'd say 95% of the general public probably thinks anyone going in there is a loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    These guys are just sad cases. I hesitate to call them losers but they are the ones that often made me guilty taking their money. Not guilty enough to stop taking money, just that I hated leading them on.
    FWIW Kelly you probably where not leading them on as much as they where leading themselves on. This is actually where the term comes from. Some guys are lonely or bored and go to strip clubs to find some excitement. I have certainly fit into both of those categories at various times in my life but I was (and still am) always in the club with my eyes wide open. I spend money to be entertained and I get very well entertained. I never leave thinking that there is any more to it than that. The PL's are the guys who think that "she really likes me"
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    FWIW Kelly you probably where not leading them on as much as they where leading themselves on. This is actually where the term comes from. Some guys are lonely or bored and go to strip clubs to find some excitement. I have certainly fit into both of those categories at various times in my life but I was (and still am) always in the club with my eyes wide open. I spend money to be entertained and I get very well entertained. I never leave thinking that there is any more to it than that. The PL's are the guys who think that "she really likes me"
    You are right. They automatically thought because I spent time with them I liked them. A few asked me out and I didn't say no but didn't say yes either. I know one time I did tell a guy I would go with him to a work picnic but this was when I was leaving the club the next day and only when he kept pressuring me.

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    I classify a PL as someone who doesn't spend at all, OR a guy who seems to think we have this relationship going on (regardless of whether he's spending money), and that one day I'll realize I'm in love with him and he can save me from the terrible world of stripping, and I will move in with him in his mom's basement and we'll live happily ever after. Nowadays, the latter seems much more common in guys that don't spend money. The majority of the guys who've spend money on me have gotten the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    But that wouldn't exempt the customer from being considered a PL by the dancer. I know dancers who regularly take money from guys they think little or nothing of. I think the fact of the matter is that everyone has a different take on the phrase. Anyone who goes in there for any reason will not be thought highly of by somebody for some reason. It doesn't matter if they spend highly or not, are a regular or not, look for extras or not, or are just killing time or not. Nobody visiting the club is safe from being looked down upon by somebody else. Hell, I'd say 95% of the general public probably thinks anyone going in there is a loser.
    Of course, but worrying about it is pointless. And if a girl gives me any attitude she's quickly told to move her little ass along in order to make room for a girl with more sense in her head.

    Our PL-to-be is worrying about the wrong thing and I'm guessing that he is doing so because he wants the dancers' approval or acceptance. That is a bad place to start from. Instead of trying to second guess how he is perceived, he should instead focus on what he is looking for from the experience and be sure that he can pay the dancers for it.

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    Instead of trying to second guess how he is perceived, he should instead focus on what he is looking for from the experience and be sure that he can pay the dancers for it.
    Agreed; worrying about how dancers see you is a fool's errand. Just be the customer and operate accordingly in the environment in which you find yourself--it's a mix of social graces, economics and mutual interest satisfaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Our PL-to-be is worrying about the wrong thing and I'm guessing that he is doing so because he wants the dancers' approval or acceptance. That is a bad place to start from. Instead of trying to second guess how he is perceived, he should instead focus on what he is looking for from the experience and be sure that he can pay the dancers for it.
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    Agreed; worrying about how dancers see you is a fool's errand. Just be the customer and operate accordingly in the environment in which you find yourself--it's a mix of social graces, economics and mutual interest satisfaction.
    Exactly. I have had lots of ATF's and favs over the years. A few have become friends OTC but the rest are just nice girls that I enjoy spending time with. It's not that hard to weed out the really cynical ones but as for what my regs really think of me? I could care less but my hunch is that most of them don't think of me at all once they put my money in their garter and walk away headed for their next customer.
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    Default Re: What would you classify a PL?

    Well its different for everyone. For me a loser is someone that comes in just to belittle others to make themselves feel better, and a pathetic loser is someone that comes in and tries to play the I had a dollar but I'm saving it for something better than the stripclub I flashed it in. Also the ones that come in and say I don't pay I only fuck..

    If they are paying I call them respectful, when it stops and start with the otc chat its time for the child to be told about the dollars and the dancers.

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    Any customer who is rude/obscene/disrespectful. I don't think it matters how often a customer comes in. This doesn't determine whether or not their a PL. In fact, most girls look forward to seeing their regulars. I wouldn't worry about how often you go in. Just be respectful, tip well, and enjoy the fantasy. Remember it is a fantasy. The SC is not a dating service. Have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Of course, but worrying about it is pointless.
    That was my point exactly. The only way to avoid being thought of as a loser by someone there is to not be there at all, so worrying about it makes no sense.
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    Default Re: What would you classify a PL?

    In another thread I mentioned a "regular" that a dances friend of ours had for over 2 years, who falls into the "PL despite spending money" category. Hundreds of thousands of thousands of dollars blown on a girl that was never anything but nasty to him.

    Another dancer friend of ours has a current regular that falls in between; he spends but not heavily, thinks he can save her and is desperately in love with her, knows her OTC and does favors for her - so far, not too bad, BUT - he wastes tons of her time ITC, expecting all her time for the money he spends (a few hundred max, usually 1 or 2 hundo), keeping her from making more. That crosses a line, and it took her a while to put him in his place about it.

    And then there's the third category. They display all the behaviour of the above two, but spend very little or nothing. Frankly, I don't know why the fuck these guys bother setting foot in a SC.

    The one thing all of the above have in common is a tendency to waste dancers' time, to - as Yoda so succinctly put it - lead themselves on (and yes, allowing yourself to be led on counts), to expect more from the SC experience than it's intended pupose.

    Interestingly - and I'd love to hear DJoser and a few others' thoughts on this - many (not all or even most, but quite a few) male SC employees I know fall into this other category mentioned by a couple of the dancers above. These are the ones that look down on the dancers. Also interestingly, a lot of dancers I know date guys like this. Guys that disrespect them for their profession in one or more and ofttimes many ways. This is a completely different kind of P or L or both, that may or may not go hand in hand with the behaviors above.

    The one thing linking all of the above is disrespect, be it active or passive. In many forms the person exemplifying the behavior would never classify it as such, but it is. The never ending mystery to me is why so many dancers date guys they meet OTC that display - often far worse - the exact same behavior the girls would never tolerate ITC. But that's another thread, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post

    Another dancer friend of ours has a current regular that falls in between; he spends but not heavily, thinks he can save her and is desperately in love with her, knows her OTC and does favors for her - so far, not too bad, BUT - he wastes tons of her time ITC, expecting all her time for the money he spends (a few hundred max, usually 1 or 2 hundo), keeping her from making more. That crosses a line, and it took her a while to put him in his place about it.
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    I don't think that is a fall between IMO... you say he is desperately in love, does favors and tries to take up all her time ITC and thinks he can actually "save her" (save her from what..?? making money? lol) with only $1-200?
    Definitely a PL

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    Oh this guy is actually referred to as such, lol. "[dancers name]'s PL is back" or "Oh GAWD is that [dancers name]'s PL over there" or "oh look, the PL is back", lol.

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    Default Re: What would you classify a PL?

    To me, a pathetic loser is the guy that comes in to pick the brains of the dancers. This is probably the most annoying type of customer to me. When I was new I would sit and talk with them as they ask me a thousand questions all along the lines of "so why do you do this, what does your family think, do you have to be drunk, are you parents married, how many kids do you have" etc. Now, I walk away before they get to their second question. I would also call that guy that comes in the club to watch the game and not spend any money aside from on a beer a pathetic loser, don't take up space at a strip club when you can go to any old bar for that experience.

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    Default Re: What would you classify a PL?

    I had a customer say "I love you" so that pretty much nails it for me.




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