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    With the stripping I've gotten involved in, there's also an opportunity to escort at people's houses. I'm concerned about:

    -Disease
    -Jail
    -No one wants to marry you because you were an escort instead of just a stripper

    How do you guys deal with this?

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    You should also be concerned with:
    -being raped.
    -being brutally beaten.
    -being murdered.

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    Escorting is a very personal decision, and if you aren't 100% comfortable with it, I don't think it's something you should get into. If you are though, it's important to look out for your health (get tested regularly and require condoms - although they can't prevent everything, they will certainly help with a lot) and safety (screen properly and learn how to phrase things to avoid being busted for solicitation/prostitution). As for the future spouse aspect, well, there are certainly lots of men who would be uncomfortable being with a current/past escort - or stripper, for that matter. But on the other hand, there are many other men who can see escorting/stripping as just a job and don't have a problem with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSweetVixen View Post
    With the stripping I've gotten involved in, there's also an opportunity to escort at people's houses. I'm concerned about:

    -Disease
    -Jail
    -No one wants to marry you because you were an escort instead of just a stripper

    How do you guys deal with this?
    Escorts use condoms, they screen and I know a lot of escorts that are married and have boyfriends .. most of all they have lives and live it well because they make a lot of money. There are different types of escorting. Street walkers are more at risk than indoor escorts. I won't get into details at all but I'm sure you get it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by daniella_maria View Post
    You should also be concerned with:
    -being raped.
    -being brutally beaten.
    -being murdered.
    That is like saying all strippers do drugs and have sex in the VIP room. You should know better than to feed into the lies of the media. There is a big difference between an escort and a street walker. I know escort that have never been beaten, raped and are still living. There is such thing as highend escorts. I would think you being a stripper would make you much aware about this but I guess not.

    Just like you feel this way about escorts.. they also think this about strippers. Ignorance is not bliss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniella_maria View Post
    You should also be concerned with:
    -being raped.
    -being brutally beaten.
    -being murdered.
    Those are valid concerns for every day life, and your risks of being raped, beaten, or murdered can go up when you engage in any kind of sex work, stripping or escorting. That did seem to be written with an unkind tone for escorts but I could be wrong.

    However, just as there are ways to be a safe, smart stripper there are ways to be a safe, smart escort. I reccoment that you look at the "Other Work" forum here on SW and search for posts related to escorting. Malayataylor/ KaylaM posted many good threads about SCREENING, the biggest safety precaution escorts should take.

    You have lots to think about, and there is research you should do before you make any decision. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat w View Post
    Those are valid concerns for every day life, and your risks of being raped, beaten, or murdered can go up when you engage in any kind of sex work, stripping or escorting. That did seem to be written with an unkind tone for escorts but I could be wrong.

    However, just as there are ways to be a safe, smart stripper there are ways to be a safe, smart escort. I reccoment that you look at the "Other Work" forum here on SW and search for posts related to escorting. Malayataylor/ KaylaM posted many good threads about SCREENING, the biggest safety precaution escorts should take.

    You have lots to think about, and there is research you should do before you make any decision. Good luck.
    This.

    Any type of sex work puts you at risk. A lot of people can't and don't understand the difference between a go-go dancer, topless or nude dancer, feature dancer, porn star, cam girl, streetwalker, and escort. I was a topless dancer for 2 1/2 years, and a lot of people in my old group of "friends" swear that I made my living giving blow jobs in the back room for $20 a pop.

    It's also unfortunately true that you are probably a little more at risk of attracting unwanted attention from certain types of guys. I'm lucky in that I never had a customer-turned-stalker, but I've seen it happen multiple times. And whenever anything bad ends up happening to ANY type of sex worker, it seems that the first thing that comes up in the trial is that she was a sex worker, so she should have expected to get raped and murdered.

    However, keep in mind that the majority of rapes are committed by someone you know, not by a stranger. Every female I know has been raped or sexually assaulted at some point, and only one of them was a stripper.

    Screen, screen, screen. Sacrificing your safety isn't worth a couple hundred dollars. I agree that you should contact KaylaM if you can. She has a lot of matter-of-fact advice and pointers for that level of sex work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniella_maria View Post
    You should also be concerned with:
    -being raped.
    -being brutally beaten.
    -being murdered.
    This wasn't meant as a slight to any escort anywhere. Yes it is something that could happen in everyday life, but sex work places you at much higher risk; especially if you are going to someone's house alone. I should have elaborated or rephrased it as you should also concerned with safety. A lot of people think "oh, it'll never happen to me". The fact is, it does happen to some, and usually the cops don't give a fuck about sex workers. Sorry to anyone I offended. In my opinion though, safety should be the number one concern.

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    I don't do this, but I have many friends who do. Here's what I think you should be concerned about in order of biggest to smallest:

    - Murder
    - Disease
    - Rape
    - Physical assault
    - Jail
    - Finding someone who will love you & marry you


    In terms of likelihood of something happening though (from most to least likely) its more like:

    - Jail
    - Disease
    - Physical assault
    - Murder
    - Rape
    - Finding someone to love you & marry you


    Plenty of escorts are married, & have good relationships with their spouses.


    Quote Originally Posted by islandgirlcoco View Post
    Escorts use condoms
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    Street walkers are more at risk than indoor escorts. I won't get into details at all but I'm sure you get it now.
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    That is like saying all strippers do drugs and have sex in the VIP room. You should know better than to feed into the lies of the media. There is a big difference between an escort and a street walker.
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    Ignorance is not bliss.
    Well, the smarter ones use condoms at least!

    Street walkers are more at risk, especially of getting caught & ending up in jail! However, with the internet these days there are very few real street walkers left. I've seen a major decrease even within the last ten years due to paper publications going online, & the increase of cost/availability of high speed internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post

    Well, the smarter ones use condoms at least!

    Street walkers are more at risk, especially of getting caught & ending up in jail! However, with the internet these days there are very few real street walkers left. I've seen a major decrease even within the last ten years due to paper publications going online, & the increase of cost/availability of high speed internet.

    There will always be stereotype, & they always show the worst of the worst...
    Well said love.

    I recommend those that want to know what land escorts in jail to check out . It is a survey of those that have gotten busted. Notice that the majority of the ladies that were busted did NOT check references nor did they even screen at all. Food for thought.

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    wow awesome link, islandgirlcoco!
    To the op, Im a married escort (and ex dancer) and if you would like to escort and dance keep escorting completely seperate from dancing, as mixing the two together could cause more problems than its worth. Also make sure you do your homework and operate safely

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    You called?

    I'm happy to talk to you about STIs and screening, although I don't know much about the legalities of escorting in the States.

    First though, would you be combining stripping and escorting? I ask because there are a lot of issues surrounding doing the two together. When you combine them you're giving encouraging clients to assume that some/most/all strippers escort, and that if they call a girl for a 1-on-1 private dance there's a chance there may be more involved. That leads to a lot of clean dancers getting irritating questions, being turned down for being clean and clients potentially taking liberties with other dancers.

    I can't recommend enough that you separate the two things. I escort so I don't dance. Its a respect thing for your peers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSweetVixen View Post
    With the stripping I've gotten involved in, there's also an opportunity to escort at people's houses. I'm concerned about:

    -Disease
    -Jail
    -No one wants to marry you because you were an escort instead of just a stripper

    How do you guys deal with this?
    Your main concerns as an escort are any incurable diseases. Sure, getting anything would be horrible, but having something for life is certainly the worst.

    On disease, from a how-to I'm working on for fellow escorts:

    "As a sex worker you need to be educated about the various STIs you may encounter and how to deal with them. I have only included how likely they are, what they look like and how to practice safer sex regarding each one.
    The following three STIs are incurable:
    HIV/AIDS: Incurable, sometimes fatal infection that affects 0.17% of the Canadian population, it is transmitted via unprotected sex and blood-to-blood contact. Oral sex carries a very low risk of HIV/AIDS (one can only get infected if the person giving oral sex has cuts along their gums or in their mouth).
    • Always use a condom for vaginal/anal penetration
    • Avoid brushing your teeth for 2 hours before oral sex (opens cuts along the gum line)
    • Protect your finger with a condom when inserting anally (may have cuts along nail bed, may cut the inside of a client)
    • Do not work with any kind of sore on or in your mouth or genitals.

    Herpes (HSV): Can exist on the mouth (coldsores) or on the genital areas and is highly contagious. It is a grouping of little itchy red blisters that eventually turn into a scab and disappear. The blisters will reappear randomly. There are various treatments to deal with the symptoms.
    • Always spend time looking at the lips and genitals of your client, herpes is quite obvious
    • Never engage in sexual activity with someone who shows signs of redness and blistering

    Gential Warts (HPV): Red painless circular bumps that show up on the genital tissue of both genders, they may look like ingrown hairs. Men tend to get them around the base of their penis. Genital warts affect 70% of the female population. Many women who have genital warts don't know it: 92% of infected women don't show physical signs and are not contagious. There are many different strains of genital warts, some live inside the vagina and some live outside. The ones that live inside may cause cervical cancer so pap smears (detection test for cervical cancer) are very important.
    • To check whether or not a red bump is a wart squeeze it gently. If it causes pain, comes to a white head, or you can see the hair, its not a wart.
    • Never engage in sexual contact with someone whos shows signs of genital warts

    The last two STIs are bacterial infections and are easily cured with antibiotics.
    Gonnorhoea and Chlamydia: common bacterial infections that are spread through contact with the penis, vagina, mouth and anus. Ejaculation does not have to occur for them to be transmitted and infection can occur in the throat (gonnorhoea) and the eyes (chlamydia). They are often symptomless but can cause minor discharge and pain on urination. Left untreated they can both cause serious health problems. Gonnorhoea in the throat feels like a sore throat and a scratchy feeling and chlamydia in the eyes looks and feels like pink eye.
    • Always use a condom for vaginal/anal penetration
    • Regular throat swabs during STI tests lets sex workers know if a sore throat is a passing bug or gonnorhoea
    • Using Polysporin drops (not Visine) in an irritated eye will clear up any infection
    • Avoid working until you have been treated with antibiotics to avoid passing it between clients

    Aside from using a condom and doing thorough visual checks you will be wanting to get regular STI testing. I recommend every 3 months. For the safety of your clients and other working girls do not work if you suspect you have an STI until it has been treated."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    In terms of likelihood of something happening though (from most to least likely) its more like:

    - Jail
    - Disease
    - Physical assault
    - Murder
    - Rape
    - Finding someone to love you & marry you
    My most likely to least likely list would look like:
    - Issues with friends and family (disrespect, not considering your job a 'real' job, denying a woman's right to control of her sexuality, ostracism, etc.)
    - Being taken advantage of (underpaid/refused payment, issues with agencies/bookers/other girls)
    - Clients you do not enjoy (smell, abrasive, don't respect hookers, etc.)

    Stuff I would say is highly unlikely:
    - Disease (see my above information on STIs. I know one escort who gets coldsores and while she doesn't work when she has them, viral shedding: BAD)
    - Jail (this is not a concern in Canada, the laws are being challenged and I don't know anyone who has even been concerned about the law. Here its mostly landlords finding out about what you're doing that's the issue)
    - Rape/physical asssault (have never met a hooker this has happened to after 4 years working with 60+ indoor midlevel escorts)
    - Murder (have never met a hooker this has happened to after 4 years working with 60+ indoor midlevel escorts)


    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    Plenty of escorts are married, & have good relationships with their spouses.
    +1. I work with 5-6 other girls regularly and most of them are dating and their partners know what they do.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    Street walkers are more at risk, especially of getting caught & ending up in jail! However, with the internet these days there are very few real street walkers left.
    In Toronto its thought that fewer than 5% of sex workers - dancers/MPAs/BDSM/film/escorts - work outdoors
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    Quote Originally Posted by beckatron View Post
    My most likely to least likely list would look like:
    - Issues with friends and family (disrespect, not considering your job a 'real' job, denying a woman's right to control of her sexuality, ostracism, etc.)
    - Being taken advantage of (underpaid/refused payment, issues with agencies/bookers/other girls)
    - Clients you do not enjoy (smell, abrasive, don't respect hookers, etc.)

    Stuff I would say is highly unlikely:
    - Disease (see my above information on STIs. I know one escort who gets coldsores and while she doesn't work when she has them, viral shedding: BAD)
    - Jail (this is not a concern in Canada, the laws are being challenged and I don't know anyone who has even been concerned about the law. Here its mostly landlords finding out about what you're doing that's the issue)
    - Rape/physical asssault (have never met a hooker this has happened to after 4 years working with 60+ indoor midlevel escorts)
    - Murder (have never met a hooker this has happened to after 4 years working with 60+ indoor midlevel escorts)
    Very well said here hun!

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    If you want to escort do it, but do it properly and research. Stripping and escorting are so different. And if you're thinking of escorting i wouldnt have put ''no-one wanting to marry me'' as a reason not to do it. If youre worried about no-one wanting to marry you cause you have been involved in the sex industry then surely you being a dancer would put someone off anyway.
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    Close legs don't get fed
    keep whoring i mean escorting
    your pussy will never not sell
    always remember that

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    Quote Originally Posted by blkbarbie View Post
    Close legs don't get fed
    keep whoring i mean escorting
    your pussy will never not sell
    always remember that
    Before I clicked this thread to read it I knew you'd say some stupid shit like that. wtf is wrong with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blkbarbie View Post
    Close legs don't get fed
    keep whoring i mean escorting
    your pussy will never not sell
    always remember that
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    Racial dynamic:

    1. Is it just skinny white girls who are able to get married after having been escorts? Are thick black girls able to do the same in your experience? (To black or white men?)

    2. Words: escorts are basically prostitutes. White ones are whores, aren't black ones by definition hos?

    3. The music is like pimps up hos down. Do white women dance to this music also?

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    There are bigger issues like jail I guess so maybe I should keep thinking about this. Money talks though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSweetVixen View Post
    There are bigger issues like jail I guess so maybe I should keep thinking about this. Money talks though.
    If you screen and screen very very well you will NEVer see the inside of a jail. Oh and I also wouldn't recommend doing outcalls. Police setup stings easily this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSweetVixen View Post
    Racial dynamic:

    1. Is it just skinny white girls who are able to get married after having been escorts? Are thick black girls able to do the same in your experience? (To black or white men?)

    2. Words: escorts are basically prostitutes. White ones are whores, aren't black ones by definition hos?

    3. The music is like pimps up hos down. Do white women dance to this music also?


    My God what is the matter with you?

    You are only a "ho" if you perceive yourself to be one! How many times will you ask the same dumb ass questions on here?

    The last thread you made was about how you think black men have a "primate" nature and how you think if you dance for them and make $2, then you're a "$2 ho" due to all of their "pimps up hos down" music. Now you're on here talking about escorting at their houses, and since you already said (in the same $2 ho thread) you dance at private parties, we can all assume you mean you're just having sex while you're at the parties for some extra cash. If you can't dance at a party and make enough money that you don't have to sleep with the party guests, then maybe dancing isn't for you. And if you can't even wrap your mind around the fact that every song lyric you hear isn't trying to demean you, than what makes you think you'll be able to stomach yourself after you start prostituting? I can picture it now, the day after you start there would be a million threads on here all from you going "If the guy's playing a rap song in the background about pimps and hoes, is he trying to imply that he is a pimp and I am a hoe? If he only gave me $200, does that make me a $200 hoe? Do white customers pay more for sex than black customers do? Who in your experience is more likely to give me an STI, a black man or white man? If a skinny white girl gets an STI, she gets treatment, if a thick black girl gets an STI, she's by definition a ho? Do black customers ONLY like it doggy style since they're so primitive?" Please for your own sanity, and mine cause I can't take any more of your feeble minded posts, don't start prostituting (I wouldn't call going to a party and fucking all the guests, "escorting").


    You need to get out of the adult industry. It's a tough business and it seems like it's already ate you up and spit you out. You've got a lot of self hate going on (I can't count how many times you bring up race, and you're always putting down your own). That shows you have a low self worth. You need to get that in order before you lower it anymore by doing things in this business that you will regret or feel ashamed of later.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSweetVixen View Post
    Racial dynamic:

    1. Is it just skinny white girls who are able to get married after having been escorts? Are thick black girls able to do the same in your experience? (To black or white men?)

    2. Words: escorts are basically prostitutes. White ones are whores, aren't black ones by definition hos?

    3. The music is like pimps up hos down. Do white women dance to this music also?
    To answer your first question (the other two are kind of arbitrary/empty questions based on perception)
    No not only skinny white girls can get married after escorting, there is someone for everyone no matter who you are. I have a lovely husband, am an escort who is black and on the curvy side. Anything is possible, don't let race hold you back in any way in life, it is mostly in how you perceive your self, and less about how others see you.

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    ^ question made me laugh.

    Anyways, I escort and do very well. IF you are very careful, which I am, you will be fine. Biggest thing is SCREEN SCREEN SCREEN. Dont see newbies if you dont have to. I never see a client without a referrence. Also, NO sexual act goes without a condom. This goes for even hand jobs. Also, keeping your rates high, attracts the more gentleman crowd, rather than low rates which attract trash...because,well, they see YOU as cheap.
    KaylaM(Malaya) is no longer here, but she, being my best friend, has taught me all I know about escorting. Shes the one who convinced me to start.So any questions, U can PM me., or I can get in touch with her for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilsweetvixen View Post
    racial dynamic:

    1. Is it just skinny white girls who are able to get married after having been escorts? Are thick black girls able to do the same in your experience? (to black or white men?)

    2. Words: Escorts are basically prostitutes. White ones are whores, aren't black ones by definition hos?

    3. The music is like pimps up hos down. Do white women dance to this music also?



    wow. Just wow.

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    Last Post: 02-19-2004, 04:47 AM

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