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    Ok, I've been texting this guy I met on a Sugardaddy website. He sounds like he has money. Owns his own construction bussinuss, goes to vegas has an expensive car. We've been texting for months and he wants me to go to vegas with him. But I want to be paid too. I don't want to waste my time. How can I politely ask him what is he going to offer me.
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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    If he has invited you on a trip already and hasn't brought money up I am guessing he is a wanna- be sugar daddy anyway-no offense.

    You shouldn't feel guilty bringing it up either, you met on a sugar daddy site. He knows the deal. Tell him in order to go, you will have to take time off of work (which i am guessing you will) and what are his intentions of helping you ease the loss?

    My girlfriend who has been off and on those sites for a few years said they are usually complete waste of time. Basically Jhon's wanting a young naive girl for a cheap hooker.

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    You've been texting for months and has he given you anything so far? Once a SD gets spoiled with your time and attention for free it is that much harder to get that $$$. Its best to always have money be a huge part of the interaction from day 1. That way you don't waste time on dudes who have no idea what it means to be a sugardaddy.

    As it is, the line now is "I'd love to go on this trip with you, but I will be missing ___ days of work for which I'd normally be making ((insert amount you feel your time is worth PLUS extra)). " The extra gives you room for negotiating. After a money amount is set, mention some stores you would like to hit to feel out if you can also get a shopping spree out of the deal. hehehe, always push for moooooooore.


    Also, before you go anywhere be sure to know what is expected of you, and where you draw your own lines. Ask if you will have your own room(if you don't plan to sleep with him, ...or even if you do). He, of course, plans on having sex with you. Like it or not, you must be ready to deal with that.

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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    Read the massive SD thread; it takes a bit of time to sift through what people are saying, but it has a lot of useful info (especially near the end).

    http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ht=sugar+daddy

    The bottom line: very few (non-sexual) SD relationships will be able to survive intact after a "how much __ for __" conversation.

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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    The appeal of Sugar from both sides, in my opinion, is a relationship in which two (or three, but you'll have to PM me for THAT story) people are mutually attracted to each other, and are very up front about their needs that need to be met/needs they are willing to meet. It can be re-negotiated (yes, I use that term) later, but the whole relationship must be based around honesty in that regard. It's easier and more drama free for both sides, and you're then available to enjoy the sugar!

    That being said, if he hasn't brought up that conversation yet, he may not understand the deal-io. Feel free to educate him, ever so politely, and don't be afraid to be up front. I would like a 3000 monthly allowance paid to me in the form of _________, pretty please Daddy?

    Or he's just trying to get a beautiful woman who deserves the world on the cheap, or other nasty things.

    All in all, a true SD gives a baby money because he wants to. If he doesn't, that's not sugar.

    Good luck, m'love!

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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    OP, in most states any arranged agreement can legally constitute grounds for being ticketed as:

    - "escorting without a license"
    - "solicitation for prostitution"
    - "prostitution"

    Be VERY careful! The safe answer is that you don't ask. Read this thread:
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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    ^ Yeah...it's a whoooooooole different issue than that though. Real SDs (i.e. the ones who don't just want sex for money) aren't usually open to having transaction-based conversations like that. You have to hustle for it. And usually you don't end up receiving money...it's more of a 'shopping spree' and 'free dinner' kind of deal.

    If I were the OP, I'd lean more towards dropping hints about rent payments. But most SDs will also see right through that.

    Uugh...99% of the time, having an SD just isn't worth the effort.

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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    There are always strings. Its not worth it. Better to cultivate a host of regulars like rock stars culivate groupies than to find one guy to support you and your lifestyle.

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    ^ I really couldn't agree more, and my opinion is based on experience. At least I retain my independence when I'm hustling in the club.

    When you hustle SDs you basically have to act like you can't support yourself, you need his help, etc. Which really sickened me.

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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    Ask? No you tell him how much you want for you to be his travel companion.

    All I gotta say is if you've been texting for months and there is no mention of money it's probably a bust.

    Where does he want to stay in Vegas? The Budget Suites or a nice casino/hotel?

    If you want to go dance I would say why not because you get free housing. If he wants you to take the night off you tell him it's $1000 to not go to the club.

    Again if it's been months who is luring who here?

    Be safe. I hope it works out.




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    As for acting like you cant support yourself....

    It is not wise to let a SD think that you depend on him, that gives him too much power. Plus neediness, dependency, and desperation are not turn-ons. Successful men want a princess, not a leech. A treat, not an obligation. The SD game is best played when you don't NEED his money, or him. It is more desirable(for both parties) to play a fancy bitch that allows him to spoil you. Whatever the truth is, doesn't matter.

    The downer is that you have to play a role for an extended amount of time, it is freakin draining. Sugarbaby relationships are definitely not for everyone, and they arent the golden ticket to free money. You do earn every penny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacy Luck View Post
    As for acting like you cant support yourself....

    It is not wise to let a SD think that you depend on him, that gives him too much power. Plus neediness, dependency, and desperation are not turn-ons. Successful men want a princess, not a leech. A treat, not an obligation. The SD game is best played when you don't NEED his money, or him. It is more desirable(for both parties) to play a fancy bitch that allows him to spoil you. Whatever the truth is, doesn't matter.

    The downer is that you have to play a role for an extended amount of time, it is freakin draining. Sugarbaby relationships are definitely not for everyone, and they arent the golden ticket to free money. You do earn every penny.
    Totally agreed. Usually it's more of an implication that you need him...no whiney bitchassness!

    Like I said, it's a hustle. And a total mindfuck. And having an SD in your life (they tend to be clingy) who can text you, e-mail you, etc, is not fun! That was just my experience though. Some of the ladies on this board have amazing tolerance levels.

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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    In my experience, there are a few kinds of sd...not including the posers and wannabes. Some want travel companions, and will pay for holidays, and all costs on holiday, and usually some shopping, but no cash upfront. Some are really looking for relationships, and get super jealous. Some are looking to pay for sex (basically) but to women who are in more "need" of it (roll on the sob stories) the best, and rarest, want to spoil women (yay). In any case, anyone toy meet on a site should be fine with having a conversation about expectations. When I met one the first time, he told me straight up what he wanted.

    So - ASK. Be polite, but direct. Say that you really like him, but you are wondering what he's offering. If he is only paying for the trip, think about if you are willing to get into a deal with him where you aren't getting cash..
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    ALL this guy does is text me and says oh i'm booking your flight. This time I told him that my car is breaking down and I need a new car. I was just throwing hints at him along the way. He could at least said oh i'm sorry i'll help you out at least a little bit. But Nooooo instead he asks me how much am I willing to spend on a new car. Like wtf type of shit is that! Like really dude? This older 40 something year old man wants a hot 20 year old and hasn't even bought up the word money or even said i'll help you out. I have a feeling that if I was to even go fly there he would give me 200 dollars or maybe even Nothing. He's done. I'm not texting him anymore and if he sends me one more text asking me when I want to fly I will flat out tell him "Sorry i'm have to make some money out here to get a new car. Maybe if you would have offerred to help me out then I would have been there." Just not worth the time or effort. He lives 6 hours away by car anyways. He's done. Thank you all ladies for your kind and EYEOPENING responses. Love you girls!

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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    ^ Also remember....

    Guys with lots of money are (generally) NOT stupid about their money. They know EXACTLY what they're getting from you and EXACTLY how much they're spending on you to get it. They may be stupid in every other respect, but they know money. Which means...they're usually annoyingly tight with it. You will almost always have to give something to them (your time, effort, etc.) if you want anything in return!

    Good job OP for realizing that he's not a good fit for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacy Luck View Post
    You've been texting for months and has he given you anything so far? Once a SD gets spoiled with your time and attention for free it is that much harder to get that $$$. Its best to always have money be a huge part of the interaction from day 1. That way you don't waste time on dudes who have no idea what it means to be a sugardaddy.

    As it is, the line now is "I'd love to go on this trip with you, but I will be missing ___ days of work for which I'd normally be making ((insert amount you feel your time is worth PLUS extra)). " The extra gives you room for negotiating. After a money amount is set, mention some stores you would like to hit to feel out if you can also get a shopping spree out of the deal. hehehe, always push for moooooooore.


    Also, before you go anywhere be sure to know what is expected of you, and where you draw your own lines. Ask if you will have your own room(if you don't plan to sleep with him, ...or even if you do). He, of course, plans on having sex with you. Like it or not, you must be ready to deal with that.
    love it! great advice! i coulda learned this 2yearsago when i first started with my SD, now he gets time and attention for free and the $$ has slowed down drasticly. back on the pole i go to find another! and trust me, now im wiser.

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    I kind of disagree with the whole 'asking for money directly' thing. In my experience a real sugar daddy will give you $/gifts regardless of whether you need it or not (though occasionally hints work). They do require a lot of time/effort on your part, though. Sometimes it almost seems like a freaking relationship. But, a SD should just WANT to give you their money. It should be implied, not explicit... Lots of guys will be put off if it is explicit, and many will even be put off by hints.

    As far as trips go, it's ideal for a SD to pay for all expenses and then to give you a stipend to 'cover all other possible expenses' on your end, such as nice clothes you might buy for fancy dates, or salon appointments etc.

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    Default Re: How do you ask a sugardaddy how much money will he give me with out being rude

    Most guys think taking you to nice restraunts and on trips is their form of paying you, if you want more money just for your time you need to tell them upfront how much money ur losing by taking off work. Sometimes they will agree to pay you.

    IMHO it would probably be way easier to make money as a escort an with less drama. Over time sugardaddies become more daddies and less sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinkle Toes View Post
    Most guys think taking you to nice restraunts and on trips is their form of paying you, if you want more money just for your time you need to tell them upfront how much money ur losing by taking off work. Sometimes they will agree to pay you.

    IMHO it would probably be way easier to make money as a escort an with less drama. Over time sugardaddies become more daddies and less sugar.
    Yes, exactly. And any time you ask for money upfront, it usually turns into an escort situation verrrry quickly. IMHO, most sugarbabies are glorified escorts who are getting paid more than escorts but also have to put up with 100x more shit.

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    I'm not saying girls shouldn't do it if the perfect guy and conditions come along. I think where it gets ugly is when ur tryin to squeeze water out of a rock with most of the loser/liars.

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    ^ Agreed. It helps if you don't actually need the money you want from him. Guys can smell desperation a mile away, and will try to either take advantage of you or simply won't want to give you anything.

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    It's good to hear the OP cut off ties with the guy in question.

    If you read the tips on most SD sites, they'll tell you to NEVER travel to see an SD. It's completely unsafe for you! If you're a seasoned SB or know that area well, then go for it, otherwise, don't.

    As far as asking for an "allowance" goes, it varies from each girl I've spoken to. But most won't bring up the subject until AFTER the first date. (Yes, you're going to have to sit through the first date for "nothing.") If this doesn't appeal to you, or you feel the guy is trying to get "free arm candy" then join a site like whatsyourprice.com where you can specify you're looking for an SD relationship, and make them extend you an "offer" to take you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    And usually you don't end up receiving money...it's more of a 'shopping spree' and 'free dinner' kind of deal.
    Uugh...99% of the time, having an SD just isn't worth the effort.
    I completely agree. I have had one experience with a SD so far and it was a pain in the ass. I got about $6000 in 2 weeks, but a lot of it was shopping. I later had to go back to the jewellery stores to return stuff for the cash, which was also a hassle. Sure the money was good, but I did not enjoy being seen in public with him at all.

    It also ended in him wanting to pay me for sex, which was not going to happen.

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