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    Default Overcoming objections (I'm stumped!)

    We're coming into shit season here in the midwest. It is always stupid slow the first few months of the year, and I need to close everybody who walks in the door.

    I stumble over the same objections time after time. I bet lots of people hear the same crap and have better answers to it.

    What do you say to:

    1. Don't have any money (but you know they do)
    2. Don't do dances (but you know they do)
    3. Not their type (whether they say so or I just see them getting dances from several girls who are my opposite)
    4. Married/committed (which does not stop them getting dances from others)


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    Default Re: Overcoming objections (I'm stumped!)

    Have you done the SGR program? The lessons would teach you how to overcome all of those... & I have sold to ALL of them with the exception of guys who really were broke & alone.
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    Default Re: Overcoming objections (I'm stumped!)

    It's pretty rare I try and close those types. I'm good. But I'm not that good.




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    Default Re: Overcoming objections (I'm stumped!)

    Kylea2, so would you recommend this program for someone that's been dancing for seven years?

    I used to be a great hustler but lately have been feeling unmotivated and uninspired.

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    I also recommend Strip and Grow Rich. There are always new things and new approaches to learn, this program has really worked for me. I've only been dancing for a year and a half, but constantly out-earn all the veterans in my club. Rebecca Avalon says something like "If you've been doing the wrong thing for a long time, right will seem wrong to you".

    You might have been missing out on things you had no idea about. I have noticed many veterans say they made lot of money on the "good old days" and that there's "no money in the club anymore", but somehow I still manage to rack up thousands of dollars per week. It's mostly about your mindset (Yes, I know that external beauty is also important). This program will cost you $20 per month, which is nothing compared to the amount of money we spend to make ourselves physically attractive. Definetly give it a go. It will refresh your hustle and your mindset and will get you motivated!

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    Default Re: Overcoming objections (I'm stumped!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Elusive21 View Post
    Kylea2, so would you recommend this program for someone that's been dancing for seven years?

    I used to be a great hustler but lately have been feeling unmotivated and uninspired.
    Yes!

    As the poster above me pointed out, sometimes entertainers aren't using sales tactics which are the most effective. When we are younger we can earn more based just off looks, but as we age often we have to rely more on what we say to customers. Optimally you want to say things that are effective AND visually appeal to customers. If one of those is out of whack, then you have room for improvement.

    While you may not feel like there is a ton that you can learn, I can tell you that their are things even veteran dancers can take away from SGR. Plus, sometimes it just helps to have the motivation of hearing how effectively things can work in order for you to get back on top of your game
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    Default Re: Overcoming objections (I'm stumped!)

    Hmmmmm....... To me it sounds like you're appealling to these guys way too logically right off the bat
    And trying to address these problems logically isn't going to get you the dance 90 percent of the time.

    What's your standard approach to these guys before receiving these excuses because I'm betting it's not party sex kitten approach where less words and more sex kitten actions, IE nuzzling, nibbling, breathing sexy, and talking in a coy, sex kitten advice =gold.


    Tell us your standard approach and maybe we can point out why these obstacles might be more prevalent for you than for others.

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    Actually I took DancerWealth about 5 years ago. I also am constantly reading sales books and trying new techniques.

    My favorite (tried and true) method involves a small amount of chit chat, and then moving into a backrub. I give a really awesome backrub and keep a steady stream of conversation going, which involves a lot of yes questions, asking small favors, and direct linking. I am currently working on repeating the same message (Colleen = Best) multiple times in this time, also. Toward the end of the backrub, I lean in and shift my focus to a more romantic/sensual tone, nibbling on thier ear, whispering, telling them what fun we will have, etc. I finish up with a nice direct link, "If you like what I do with my hands, you will LOVE what I do with the rest of my body!" and as soon as I get the laugh, I smile, wink, nod in the direction of the dance area, and say "C'mon, let's go!" while taking a step back and maintianing eye contact.

    This has about a 75% close rate for dances, and about a 99% rate of getting either a dance or a $10 for just the backrub. Either way, money is almost always forthcoming. It also scores me TONS of regulars, who come in ONLY for my back rubs or else come in and get my back rub and somebody else's dance.

    However, it only works IF I CAN GET IT STARTED. Once I get started, it's like a funnel that they just slide down. It works great.

    I don't always use this. Sometimes I just do the conventional conversation thing. It depends on the customer. When I do ditch my normal routine, it is because of the vibe I am getting form the customer, usually a fun-loving type who wants to get right to the dances.

    My trouble is getting cut off in the first few minutes of the conversation.

    ME: Hi, I'm Colleen
    HIM: I don't get dances.

    Like that. I have tried just ignoring this first objection (a la "How to close every sale") and just rolling on. sometimes that works, and sometimes it doesn't.

    I have tired getting them to open op closed body language, but they tend to snap back like a spring.

    Sometimes I just ask for permission to sit with them and chat for a while, and after a few minutes I try again.

    Usually it's like talking to a brick with these guys. I mean, they REALLY do not want to talk to me. Sometimes they have a regular girl and they don't want to get in trouble with her, but other times there is no discernible reason why they clam up with me, and then happily follow some other girl into VIP like Mary's lamb.

    As I said, I have a high success rate once I get the conversation rolling. But if I get an early NO, my chances of turning it around are about 20% or less. The best I can figure is that some people just do not like the look of me.

    This happens to me at least 2-3 times a night. My average sale, once I get someone to the dance area, is about $60. That may not sound like a lot to some of the big-city girls here, but in the podunk bars and honky-tonks where I make my money, that adds up. If I can turn over just one guy a night, that would mean a difference of about $300 a week. THere is no moving on to the next guy, because frequently there are few customers, and it will only get worse as the winter weather settles in.


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    Default Re: Overcoming objections (I'm stumped!)

    Create a stripper facebook page and add all those dudes who are spending $60 on you. Keep in touch with them and try to get them back in the club to see you more frequently!
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