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    Default www.2257Safe.com $9.99 Special Offer...

    Just because some of you asked for it we decided to bring back the $9.99 pricing special for http://www.2257Safe.com

    So if you are interested please post a link to your website in this thread.

    All sites have to be approved. This offer is only for those independent girls/guys that have their own sites and are required to keep the 2257 records themselves.

    Basically, if your website contains pictures or videos of nudity beyond bare breasts - or if it is just bare breasts but the model is pulling on her nipples then you should comply with the law. (any type of masturbation trips the law) This even applies if the ONLY model on the site is you...

    Failure to keep records is a felony punishable by up to 5 yrs in prison for each picture/video and for failure to post proper notice on your site is an additional 5 yrs.

    here's a link to the law...

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18...7----000-.html

    Feel free to ask any questions and I will try to answer them but I am the legal guy behind the site. If your question is more technical in nature please visit www.2257Safe.com for more info and there is a tutorial and a demo on the site to try it out.

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    Default Re: www.2257Safe.com $9.99 Special Offer...

    Damn! I'm in the site building process and all I have is a blog up.. redirecting from my domain.

    Would I have to put my website up to get approved.. or would y'all approve my blog? And if I have to put up my website, how long are you running this special for? 'Cause I will totally put up an incredibly shitty mockup just to make sure I secure this deal!

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    This is US law only isnt it? Not clear from a quick read at the post.

    I know the answer but just for others who read it and think its law for them.

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    I'm super excited about this! I know I want to do this, but will probably sign up right after AVN's when I have more time to do everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessJenny View Post
    This is US law only isnt it? Not clear from a quick read at the post.

    I know the answer but just for others who read it and think its law for them.
    Yes but anyone doing business in the US, according to US law needs to comply. Meaning that if your servers, billing or customers are in the US you should comply with the law. Some foreign based companies do and some dont. Its about managing risks. But anyone based in the US or those that travel to/from the US must be in compliance.

    Basically if the content and/or the money moves through US cyberspace then you need to comply with all US laws. Which basically means just about everyone that does business on the internet. Unless of course you block all US IP addresses. Then I guess you would be exempt. I dont know anyone that blocks US IP addresses though.

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    Default Re: www.2257Safe.com $9.99 Special Offer...

    Quote Originally Posted by pornlaw View Post
    All sites have to be approved. This offer is only for those independent girls/guys that have their own sites and are required to keep the 2257 records themselves.


    right now all i have is a clips4sale site-no nudity/masturbation. so is 2257 necessary for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amazingjane View Post
    Damn! I'm in the site building process and all I have is a blog up.. redirecting from my domain.

    Would I have to put my website up to get approved.. or would y'all approve my blog? And if I have to put up my website, how long are you running this special for? 'Cause I will totally put up an incredibly shitty mockup just to make sure I secure this deal!
    You can sign up with a blogger account. No worries you do not need a dedicated TLD to qualify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    I'm super excited about this! I know I want to do this, but will probably sign up right after AVN's when I have more time to do everything.
    No worries the offer will remain open. And do I finally get to meet you at AVN ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pushit69 View Post
    right now all i have is a clips4sale site-no nudity/masturbation. so is 2257 necessary for me?
    Give me a link to your store and I will take a look.

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    Default Re: www.2257Safe.com $9.99 Special Offer...

    Sorry, this may sound silly. But if I have a UK site and a US citizen buys my content I need to be in compliance with the law? that doesnt sound right to me? That would mean I would have to be compliances with all the countries laws from around the world cause I cant tell where they will buy from.

    A UK site should only have to go by UK laws, not US laws. US can only enforce their laws within the US.

    This is my understanding of it.

    Example, AW does not go by 2257 laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pornlaw View Post
    No worries the offer will remain open. And do I finally get to meet you at AVN ?
    Yes! As a matter of fact, I'm trying to find a time/date to do a little get together. My birthday is January 6th & I'll find any excuse to be around friends, so you & Vanessa (& anyone you want to bring) are certainly invited! I just don't know if I'm actually going to do this little shindig on the 6th... maybe the 7th or 9th? If not, I'm sure I'll run into you at expo. I really think we may have met once before, or else maybe I met your partner? There aren't normally to many law firms with booths there though...
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    Default Re: www.2257Safe.com $9.99 Special Offer...

    Didnt I read somewhere that EU laws forbid the use of the 2257 because of privacy violations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessJenny View Post
    Sorry, this may sound silly. But if I have a UK site and a US citizen buys my content I need to be in compliance with the law? that doesnt sound right to me? That would mean I would have to be compliances with all the countries laws from around the world cause I cant tell where they will buy from.

    A UK site should only have to go by UK laws, not US laws. US can only enforce their laws within the US.

    This is my understanding of it.

    Example, AW does not go by 2257 laws.
    There are UK companies that do comply. Most US based billing companies will not approve an account without a 2257 Compliance Notice on the site. They still have to comply and therefore their clients have to comply.

    Will the FBI ever show up over seas to inspect your records - no. However I can tell you that the US govt can try people in absentia as well as convene Grand Juries and then arrest you when you arrive in the US.

    Several people have been taken off of planes when the plane touched down on the US soil to refuel. The flight didnt end in the US but once you are in US airspace you are under US jurisdiction and subject to any outstanding warrants.

    The DOJ in the US did this to 2 people with warrants based on pornography obscenity prosecutions and 3 that were tied to illegal offshore online gambling sites. None were US citizens by the way.

    We do have clients all around the world by the way.

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    Default Re: www.2257Safe.com $9.99 Special Offer...

    So only if they want to then?

    Sorry I just get confused with your posts here then your posts from above. They both seem to conflict with eachother.

    I have no real idea what im talking about or anything with law btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessJenny View Post
    Didnt I read somewhere that EU laws forbid the use of the 2257 because of privacy violations?
    2257 does conflict with EU privacy laws. However there is language that can be added to model releases drafted in those countries that are signatories to the treaty that will allow the sharing of the necessary records and documents as required by 2257. The model basically waives the EU protections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessJenny View Post
    So only if they want to then?

    Sorry I just get confused with your posts here http://www.justblowme.com/showthread.php?t=89451 then your posts from above. They both seem to conflict with eachother.

    I have no real idea what im talking about or anything with law btw
    Really? Read what I just wrote.

    Not sure why you are challenging me on this I am trying to offer something on a discount rate to help those that are interested in complying with the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pornlaw View Post
    2257 does conflict with EU privacy laws. However there is language that can be added to model releases drafted in those countries that are signatories to the treaty that will allow the sharing of the necessary records and documents as required by 2257. The model basically waives the EU protections.
    wow such a complicated thing. my brain isnt made to handle these things, will leave it to the professionals


    Edit: those two posts were posted at the same time so i didnt see the post after mine sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylea2 View Post
    Yes! As a matter of fact, I'm trying to find a time/date to do a little get together. My birthday is January 6th & I'll find any excuse to be around friends, so you & Vanessa (& anyone you want to bring) are certainly invited! I just don't know if I'm actually going to do this little shindig on the 6th... maybe the 7th or 9th? If not, I'm sure I'll run into you at expo. I really think we may have met once before, or else maybe I met your partner? There aren't normally to many law firms with booths there though...
    I appreciate the invite. I dont think I get in until the 7th though. But if you have it on the 9th you can count me in !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessJenny View Post
    wow such a complicated thing. my brain isnt made to handle these things, will leave it to the professionals


    Edit: those two posts were posted at the same time so i didnt see the post after mine sorry.
    No worries I was just hoping this wouldnt turn into a "No good deed goes unpunished" situation....


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    Quote Originally Posted by pornlaw View Post
    No worries I was just hoping this wouldnt turn into a "No good deed goes unpunished" situation....

    probably would have been better for me to pm on the site. I have my plans for an adult cam site in the future so i like to try and learn as i go along abit

    thanks

    edit: i will of course be using your services in the future for any of my adventures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pushit69 View Post
    right now all i have is a clips4sale site-no nudity/masturbation. so is 2257 necessary for me?
    From what I have seen and based on what you have told me my initial reaction is no you do not need to keep 2257 records for your content.

    But keep in mind I havent watched all the clips so I cannot state with certainty that you dont. But if you are saying theres no nudity and no masturbation in the videos then you wouldnt fall into the guidelines of 18 USC 2257.

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    We have set the billing up so anyone that is ready to sign up just let me know...

    I will need to give you the secret code word to get the discount... LOL

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    Oh whoops! send me, send me.

    OH. Also, will I be able to transfer when I'm using my domain as a full time pornspot?!

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    AJ - you have a PM

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    I'm interested. You have my link in PM

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