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    I am not sure how many women here know not to give out their current driver's license for IDs purposes for 2257 compliance but I wanted to offer some advice.

    Most cam sites require you to send a scan of your ID as proof of being 18 when you sign up. You guys often worry about your cam show content being put up on other sites and resold.

    Well if you cam for a company that has affiliates your ID may also get passed around with the content. It is actually required by 18 USC 2257. Usually when a company licenses content to another site - they sell it and with it comes the all the model releases and the IDs. And some companies that have affiliates also provide the same information to them. Which means its possible that some random guy that signs up to promote your cam shows may be able to get a copy of your ID.

    I strongly suggest that anyone working in the industry go and get a PO Box and use that as their address on a state issued Identification Card. I know this is allowed in California. As for other states I am not sure, but I would check with your state's DMV to see if you can use a PO Box on a state ID card. And NEVER give anyone your social security card as ID and NEVER EVER use a credit card as secondary ID. (yes I have seen 2257 docs with girls credit cards contained in them)

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    Great info! I don't know if CO allows for the use of PO boxes on the address field. If they do, I suspect a person could get a driver's license with their real address on it, & an "identification card" with just the PO box. I'll check into that since I'd be interested to know.

    As a photographer, I do either scan or photograph model's IDs - either driver's license or passport. Generally I prefer a second form of ID as well, but no one has ever tried to give me a credit card! I can't believe someone would do that!
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    oops...didn't know that lol but then again im like on tons of things i guess i should have blacked out that stuff huh? lol o well

    as of now it wouldn't be current anyway lesson learned..

    Quote Originally Posted by pornlaw View Post
    I am not sure how many women here know not to give out their current driver's license for IDs purposes for 2257 compliance but I wanted to offer some advice.

    Most cam sites require you to send a scan of your ID as proof of being 18 when you sign up. You guys often worry about your cam show content being put up on other sites and resold.

    Well if you cam for a company that has affiliates your ID may also get passed around with the content. It is actually required by 18 USC 2257. Usually when a company licenses content to another site - they sell it and with it comes the all the model releases and the IDs. And some companies that have affiliates also provide the same information to them. Which means its possible that some random guy that signs up to promote your cam shows may be able to get a copy of your ID.

    I strongly suggest that anyone working in the industry go and get a PO Box and use that as their address on a state issued Identification Card. I know this is allowed in California. As for other states I am not sure, but I would check with your state's DMV to see if you can use a PO Box on a state ID card. And NEVER give anyone your social security card as ID and NEVER EVER use a credit card as secondary ID. (yes I have seen 2257 docs with girls credit cards contained in them)

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    Hi Michael,

    Great advice as always!!! Yes, for this reason I always use my United States Passport as my form of ID. Your passport does not include your address. I would recommend girls getting a passport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricaErotica View Post
    Hi Michael,

    Great advice as always!!! Yes, for this reason I always use my United States Passport as my form of ID. Your passport does not include your address. I would recommend girls getting a passport.
    And you are quite right... Passports do not show an address. However I just assumed that not many people have US Passports and its easier and cheaper to get a state issues ID card.

    But thank you for pointing that out.

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    There needs to be a SERIOUS LOCKED Thread on all the
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    HAVING YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION LEAKED!
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    protected by whomever joe we are giving our important shit to!
    I know i did.. Untill some biggot come to me , telling me
    that MY NAME HERE looks like i am made for
    MY ADDRESS HERE!
    They dont care enough to put in the extra money
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    To consider and think twice about!

    (Like stated above) These sites will pretty much SELL US
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    Your family CAN find out , no matter how long you plan
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    If someone wants to blackmail you , and have the right info
    THEY WILL , no matter how many hours you spend giving them
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    The still shots can end up advertisement , for the biggest
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    Quote Originally Posted by pornlaw View Post
    And you are quite right... Passports do not show an address. However I just assumed that not many people have US Passports and its easier and cheaper to get a state issues ID card.

    But thank you for pointing that out.
    I make sure to use my Passport as well, that way if anything's leaked, they don't know where I am...and that's all that matters.


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    My id has my old address on it (I haven't lived there for 3 years). I know you are supposed to change your id within 10 days of moving to a new address, but I would rather get in trouble for that than have some creep show up at my house!

    I was told you couldn't use a p.o box as an address, but I never thought of the passport thing. Guess I will be getting a passport!
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    will camsites accept blacked out info on IDs they dont really need or would they just deny an ID with photoshopped black bars over the address? hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnowflakes View Post
    will camsites accept blacked out info on IDs they dont really need or would they just deny an ID with photoshopped black bars over the address? hmmm.
    I know MyFreeCams wont, I tried. I left all the info they said they needed (dob and name) but they woudlnt take it. Kinda pissed me off honestly.

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    A few sites in the us require ssn too. This has made me pretty uncomfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherryblossomsinspring View Post
    A few sites in the us require ssn too. This has made me pretty uncomfortable.
    yeah..i signed up for a site and made a good amount of money..then when I didn't receive my check sometime after the payperiod ended i called and they told me they would not release my pay until I sent them a copy of my social security card. I gave it to them because I desperately needed that money but I don't understand why they didn't ask for it when i signed up and instead almost bullied me into it! they are a pretty popular site too...
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    so are ID "leaks" a common thing? has mfc or adultwork ever had any issues with this? this is so scary i never even would have really thought about my id being in a spot everyone can see until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    yeah..i signed up for a site and made a good amount of money..then when I didn't receive my check sometime after the payperiod ended i called and they told me they would not release my pay until I sent them a copy of my social security card. I gave it to them because I desperately needed that money but I don't understand why they didn't ask for it when i signed up and instead almost bullied me into it! they are a pretty popular site too...
    Its not MFC is it? 'Cause I didn't give them a copy and if they need it I guess I should send it now lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherriebomb View Post
    Its not MFC is it? 'Cause I didn't give them a copy and if they need it I guess I should send it now lol.
    nah its not mfc
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    so it IS possible to use my driver's license with an address i havent lived at in over 5yrs??
    bc im too broke right now to get a passport :-(
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    yea they just want to see that you are over 18

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    Quote Originally Posted by luxi_kitty View Post
    so it IS possible to use my driver's license with an address i havent lived at in over 5yrs??
    bc im too broke right now to get a passport :-(
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    yea they just want to see that you are over 18
    Again, it's possible, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's legal. Check your local laws, particularly on the back of your driver's license. In most states there is a legal requirement to have the address on your driver's license up to date within a certain time frame. Alternatively some states provide a spot on the back of the driver's license where you can write in your new address.
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    ha ive had that license for sooo long..
    and i havent lived at that address since 2006
    ive been pulled over by the police (speeding), went to the bank to open a checking account, did my taxes, etc..with that license with no questions..AND i told them it wasnt my real address..hmm idk think its fine here in GA?
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    Whatever! This doesn't make me budge one bit! Majority of the content that is re-distributed falls into the hands of foreign traders. I'm not at all concerned about some random weirdo all the way from Holland in Amsterdam wanting to fly to the states just to rape me and chop my head off. Thank you for posting Pornlaw but some models are over exaggerating in this thread. If you can shake your ass and get topless and nude at a titty bar full of ''local'' idiots, then you can totally handle having your id in the hands of harmless porn traders. Porn traders don't rape, they masturbate and I don't care who masturbates to me. I've got money in the bank!
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    Devon,

    Someone from Holland flying out there to "rape you" is the least of your worries... you'll think twice when a sheriff/bailiff shows up at your house to repossess your home, because "someone from Holland" decided to rape your identity/credit instead.

    A lot of eastern european countries are famous for ID theft/scams/etc. They will have no problem selling off that information, and there is absolutely no recourse for you -- unless your insurance will cover it, or unless you luck out, you are actually responsible for their crime.

    In a widely publicized account,[48] Michelle Brown, a victim of identity fraud, testified before a U.S. Senate Committee Hearing on Identity Theft. Ms. Brown testified that: "over a year and a half from January 1998 through July 1999, one individual impersonated me to procure over $50,000 in goods and services. Not only did she damage my credit, but she escalated her crimes to a level that I never truly expected: she engaged in drug trafficking. The crime resulted in my erroneous arrest record, a warrant out for my arrest, and eventually, a prison record when she was booked under my name as an inmate in the Chicago Federal Prison.
    http://www.privacyrights.org/cases/victim9.htm

    This isn't just some kind of joke... :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevonSantos View Post
    Whatever! This doesn't make me budge one bit! Majority of the content that is re-distributed falls into the hands of foreign traders. I'm not at all concerned about some random weirdo all the way from Holland in Amsterdam wanting to fly to the states just to rape me and chop my head off. Thank you for posting Pornlaw but some models are over exaggerating in this thread. If you can shake your ass and get topless and nude at a titty bar full of ''local'' idiots, then you can totally handle having your id in the hands of harmless porn traders. Porn traders don't rape, they masturbate and I don't care who masturbates to me. I've got money in the bank!
    Wow, any idea of how ignorant this sounds? It's NOT about the porn traders... it's about stalkers, angry co-workers, over-zealous fans, & people wanting things from performers so they use this information as blackmail, etc. There have been MULTIPLE major leaks in the last year including over 1,500 legal names, some addresses, names of mainstream employers, & names of family members of our members here on SW have have been released from these leaks. Many were in the last year, but some have been going on for multiple years. Members of SW have been targeted for a few years, & now the video & camming industries are being targeted. I can't even begin to count the number of my friends & co-workers who now have to worry about if some crazy person is going to show up at their home or work... possibly causing them harm or major threats. At least 4 of my best friends plus myself have been targeted. I've been in this industry a VERY long time, my entire family knows what I do, my friends know what I do... but I have had problems in the past including being followed, having property damaged, etc. I've always taken my privacy & security seriously, so knowing that people are purposely doing things which could put my co-workers, friends, & associates at risk does NOT please me. I will continue to try to protect my own privacy/security & will ALWAYS encourage others to do the same.
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    This is great advice but here's my predicament: I have a Wisconsin license and am still legally a resident of Wisconsin. But I currently live and work in Indiana. So if I got a PO Box I would obviously get it in Indiana but I can't get a Wisconsin state ID with an Indiana PO Box address on it... and I'm not eligible to become an Indiana resident yet. What can I do? Is getting a passport my only option for security then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnowflakes View Post
    will camsites accept blacked out info on IDs they dont really need or would they just deny an ID with photoshopped black bars over the address? hmmm.
    Glad you mentioned that, I submitted my ID scan once, and I blacked out everything except my Full name and DOB. It was accepted. This could be an option, depending on how each site works. It will still be on your forms though.

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