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    Have you guys had this happen?
    Ever give a girl a decent amount of cash over a period of time, basically to be considered her regular and then decide you don't want to deal with her/change clubs, try new dancers, whatever and then she bombards you with phone calls,texts,emails, or starts drama in the club etc etc. trying to get you to continue spend the money on her and not someone else, she has became emotionally attached to your wallet, what did you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie2010 View Post
    ...she has became emotionally attached to your wallet...
    Haha...love this line.

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    I've never had any dancer react quite that way to losing my business. Honestly most girls won't throw a hissy-fit. They will just move on.
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    Have had this and worse.

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    OK, I forgot about this one. My one and only Psycho dancer story...

    Years ago a former South American fav actually called immigration on another dancer and tried to get her deported because she was losing business, including mine, to her. This same nut-case also caused another fav to stop speaking to me for over a year by telling her lies about me. Last but not least, while speaking Portuguese, she told another Brazilian dancer to basically stay away from me while all three of us were sitting together.

    A true nut case but she never confronted me in the club about the fact that I went from $200 a week to nothing.

    Not sure which is worse, getting confronted or worrying about what they are saying about you behind our back...
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    When the wallet shrivels and dies(for her) she'll lose interest. In response to pestering texts you can say, "I'm sorry I just got laid off I can't afford to come to the club for a while."

    Then I'd find a new club. If you show up and spend money on another girl, shit is likely to go down. Unfortunately, crazy bitches are not to be fucked with.

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    Wow I never did this before. I've heard of it happening but I figured if I lost a regular there was always another one lurking. Honestly, this is why it's a good idea never to give a dancer your number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacy Luck View Post
    Unfortunately, crazy bitches are not to be fucked with.


    Yeah that is very true!

    I've seen quite a few catfights over a customer. Usually it's very far removed from any sort of sexual or romantic jealousy, to say the least. Much more an ego thing, and the idea some other bitch is getting 'her' money.
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    ^ Absolutely. If it was just about the money a dancer would write the guy off and move on. The psychos are pissed that another dancer is getting their money. The ultimate PL double whammy is when you get bitched-out or confronted by a dancer that you stop spending on and then you are dumb enough that she's pissed because she cares about you and not your money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie2010 View Post
    Have you guys had this happen?
    Ever give a girl a decent amount of cash over a period of time, basically to be considered her regular and then decide you don't want to deal with her/change clubs, try new dancers, whatever and then she bombards you with phone calls,texts,emails, or starts drama in the club etc etc. trying to get you to continue spend the money on her and not someone else, she has became emotionally attached to your wallet, what did you do?


    I've actually had this happen a few times. My solution was to avoid the club for awhile and venture off to a new,different club. By the time I returned to the first club, the obsessive/possessive dancer was gone. I rolled the dice that the dancer would have migrated to a new club by then, and I was usually right (many dancers are nomadic by nature ).
    Chickenshit way to deal with it? Yeah, probably. But it saved me alot of unnecessary anguish and stress.

    Thankfully, I am blessed with MANY clubs here in the greater L.A. area to escape to

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    Thread title should be changed to "Dacner (sp) turning into PL for customer's wallet". With next to no exceptions, its really all that matters to the great majority of them.
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    I have mixed feelings on this topic.

    First of all, IMO it is not accurate to call a girl a "pathetic loser" when she is simply trying to protect her income. These girls have bills to pay and mouths to feed and this is how they do it, so it is understandable when they get a little worked up when there is good money at stake.

    As a customer, I hate the thought of someone treating me as "owned" and whenever it is tried, either by my local fav or a girl at one of my road clubs, I make it very clear that nobody owns me or my wallet. However, my efforts have never really been successful and I can understand why. In each club, there is an understood code of behavior in terms of dealing with, and scooping up, other girls' established customers. And as aggressive as the competition already is among the girls in a given club, imagine what it would be like if they operated without any rules of engagement whatsoever.

    I've had to change clubs whenever I wanted to move my $$$ away from a particular girl and, while I don't like it, I doubt that the reality of this will change anytime soon.
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    I dunno, I think that many dancers can and do exhibit terrible behaviors toward customers, some of which can fall under the PL heading. Nevermind how they act toward each other, I have had some AWFUL experiences with dancers ITC, any real SC junkie has.

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    My experience has been similar to what most have already posted, usually the dancer just moves on to the next customer. Most dancers I've been with understand that it is a SC and customers are there for the variety that the club offers. That's one of the reasons I'm a customer to the club and not a particular dancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    I dunno, I think that many dancers can and do exhibit terrible behaviors toward customers, some of which can fall under the PL heading. Nevermind how they act toward each other, I have had some AWFUL experiences with dancers ITC, any real SC junkie has.
    I think we all have, but of course that comes with the turf. But IMHO applying the term "pathetic" to a dancer is far from the same thing as using it to describe a customer.

    For the customer this is, or should be, entertainment. He does not need to be in a club for any reason. Also, if he has a lick of common sense he will realize that it is her job to get him to spend and should act accordingly. In this context, if he loses his mind anyway and spends his retirement or mortgage money then he truly is pathetic (not to mention stupid) and, IMHO, his money will be better spent by someone else anyway.

    For the dancer, however, this is work and failure to produce will likely have bad results. To me it is not "pathetic" when a dancer acts aggressively in order to ensure that she and her children will eat tomorrow or have a roof over their heads. While she may not be taking the smartest approach to accomplishing this, I can at least understand why she is doing it. And don't we know plenty of people IRL who suck up, backstab co-workers or otherwise do bad things in order to feed their families?

    I will never call a girl that is hustling to earn a living "pathetic", even if I don't like the way she is trying to do it.

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    Pretty much what Rick said...

    I have an issue with the use of the term "PL" to begin with as it is being applied in this thread. As it relates to SC's a PL is and, to me, always will be a guy who spends blindly on a dancer hoping to buy her affection. I don't apply it to customers or dancers who exhibit plain old bad behavior.

    If every guy who walks into the club is a PL then the words no longer have any specific meaning. Though a dancer may sometimes exhibit pathetic behavior I have to agree with Rick here. No one is dragging customers in off the street to be taken advantages of and, as an old fav used to say, "You don't pay my bills so don't tell how I should be doing it."
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    I agree with all said statements about her earning her income for herself or her family, i didn't really mean to say she was pathetic, i was merely trying to compare to said two even though of course one is Income and trying to make money at work is definitely not pathetic, i probably should have titled it differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie2010 View Post
    Have you guys had this happen?
    Ever give a girl a decent amount of cash over a period of time, basically to be considered her regular and then decide you don't want to deal with her/change clubs, try new dancers, whatever and then she bombards you with phone calls,texts,emails, or starts drama in the club etc etc. trying to get you to continue spend the money on her and not someone else, she has became emotionally attached to your wallet, what did you do?
    Most level headed dancers realize that all regulars have a shelf life.

    Now I understand that we are not talking about "most level headed dancers" here. We are talking about psycho bitches. Psychos will loose it on anyone for any reason. Try not to take it personally. A simple "I'm sorry I am not interested anymore" is the best solution. Try not to take her behaviour personally, its not like you are married to her.



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    I rarely give my number out but when I do, it's for the sole purpose of encouraging a big spender to return. I keep in contact with him, coaxing him back to the club to separate him from his cash. But I have experienced men who tried to lord their spending over me - saying if I didn't become "more serious" with them, they'd stop spending their money with me. I think regulars form too much of an annoying bond and in time they become too much work to maintain. If anyone's going to be doing manipulating, it's gonna be me. I'm not down with the regulars anymore. If a guy is especially obsessed with me and seems to be submissive, I'll proceed since I know I'll have control. But if he makes suggestions that relate to my personal life or agenda, I'll politely tell him to fuck off. I'd never chase someone for their money. It takes the fun out of it.

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    Just happened to me....my regular club, stop in 1 - 2 times a week....and one girl has sort of attached herself to me lately. I walk in last week and she is bawling at the bar, the BT says look whos here, and she looks up at me and cries even harder saying she hates the club, hates being a dancer and how could I possibly show up when she looks like this? WTF?

    Time to find a new club. LOL

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    I can't believe so many men actually let dancers control them to the extent of not being able to go where they want to spend with who they want. There is no way in hell a guy should have to switch clubs if he loses interest in a chick.Like my boy from the A says,"Where they do that?" It also has always amazed me how guys let so much stuff slide in clubs that dancers pull like ripoffs on dances, bait & switch, not leaving them alone when they say no,etc. Most guys won't go tell management. These people are there for a reason. If a dancer runs you off from my club that is loss of income to the club and it affects us all. If you're just not that into her anymore tell her. She is an adult and has to deal with it. If she gives you shit, get her fired. I don't know any manager that is gonna ignore a guy who says so&so bothers me when I come in here because I used to give her money. She will not go away. I know so many crazy bitches that harass guys into dances all nite because nobody will stand up to them. And I think that just furthers that behavior. I hear girls all the time say blah blah is my regular. It's not my place to say your regular always buys dances from me too. If you come to my club and buy dances from me a lot I like you, but I'm never gonna lay claim to you. Most men have a wife/gf/piece of ass that they have to deal with to get what the want who gets some of their $. Who the fuck wants to deals with strippers arguing about their hard earned money.
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    I've never had to go to management, I'm fine with standing up for myself, but if a dancer got really psycho on me, I'd definitely let the bouncer (or whoever was obviously Staff With Authority) know about it.

    Closest I've come was a dancer screwing with the count. If a girl overcharges by like a dance, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt/don't really care to fight over money I'd have likely tipped her anyhow if she was any good, though if it happens more than once OK hon, money-tap now shut off for you.

    More than one, I'll call her on it (politely, always be polite, but firm) and if she tries to push it, as one did, I told her we could take it up with the doorman.

    I learned that the way to count songs in an SC is to pay (some) attention to the bass line, since otherwise songs can blend together (stripper told me that's how she did it, I'm not actually clever or anything). She backed off quick, so I guess there's a downside to a girl who gets complaints.

    I've been asked for my number on a couple of occasions, I just politely decline, say I prefer to keep things in the club (and I'm not a regular patron anyhow, sweetie). The sort of harassment being described would piss me off in a hurry.

    Somewhat related, since it's been mentioned in-thread, but I really don't get the guys who let a dancer walk all over them with those big nasty heels (metaphorically speaking). Not to contradict the lady who mentioned, above, that there's a control dynamic going on in the business and she's gonna be the one in charge, but the way I see it is, it's my money, and the customer is at least occasionally right. Play nice with me, and I consider it a point of pride to be a pleasant customer. Cop that sort of attitude though and I'll drop that in a second and ask the girl to move on. I'm a pervert, not a sucker dammit!

    That said, if a girl does manage a clever bit of scamming on me, good for her. I'll respect her for it when I eventually figure it out. Assuming I ever do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Honestly most girls won't throw a hissy-fit. They will just move on.
    Some of the time they just PRETEND to move on... and then go run around hassling your new dancer or telling all the other girls how your new girl is a whore and stealing all her customers by going OTC, ect, ect.
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    I've never had to go to management, I'm fine with standing up for myself, but if a dancer got really psycho on me, I'd definitely let the bouncer (or whoever was obviously Staff With Authority) know about it.

    Closest I've come was a dancer screwing with the count. If a girl overcharges by like a dance, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt/don't really care to fight over money I'd have likely tipped her anyhow if she was any good, though if it happens more than once OK hon, money-tap now shut off for you.

    More than one, I'll call her on it (politely, always be polite, but firm) and if she tries to push it, as one did, I told her we could take it up with the doorman.

    I learned that the way to count songs in an SC is to pay (some) attention to the bass line, since otherwise songs can blend together (stripper told me that's how she did it, I'm not actually clever or anything). She backed off quick, so I guess there's a downside to a girl who gets complaints.

    I've been asked for my number on a couple of occasions, I just politely decline, say I prefer to keep things in the club (and I'm not a regular patron anyhow, sweetie). The sort of harassment being described would piss me off in a hurry.

    Somewhat related, since it's been mentioned in-thread, but I really don't get the guys who let a dancer walk all over them with those big nasty heels (metaphorically speaking). Not to contradict the lady who mentioned, above, that there's a control dynamic going on in the business and she's gonna be the one in charge, but the way I see it is, it's my money, and the customer is at least occasionally right. Play nice with me, and I consider it a point of pride to be a pleasant customer. Cop that sort of attitude though and I'll drop that in a second and ask the girl to move on. I'm a pervert, not a sucker dammit!

    That said, if a girl does manage a clever bit of scamming on me, good for her. I'll respect her for it when I eventually figure it out. Assuming I ever do.

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