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    OKay this is only my second time getting a $500 whale. I just finished my show and I am really ready to cry. While Im happy that i al;ready beat my goal for the DAY and its only 1 am... I am sick to my stomach.

    This was streamate.

    So many guys gave me gold today... And I honestly just wanted to tell them to keep it just to spare a little pride for myself.
    $20 gold =$7
    $50 = $17.50 WHAT? SERIOUSLY?

    Like im sitting here so frustrated. MY PU$$Y. MY BODY. MY RECORDING.

    I dont think I could stomach streamte for "traffic" anymore. I really do feel raped. yes I do know its %35 ahead of time. but sometimes you gotta do what you have to do.

    does anybody else feel sick? how do you get over it? do you really say well, they give me traffic? do you honestly think the traffic justify the percentage?

    I feel so VIOLATED. $184.92
    fuck you streamate =(


    I dont know what im saying. Im just ranting. I am angry, and very sad.

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    This is so emotionally taxing for me. There is no other site that I have experienced where my traffic was like streamate. ANd i think streamate is well aware of that.

    is there anyway A streamate spinoff site can be created so we models can annonymosuly speak on this POCKET- RAPE? I just think if it was made public they would change.

    DOes anyone know of a site with (quality) trraffic comparable to stremate, that pays 50+ ?

    I am currently on 2 sites that pay less than 50% ( webcamclub & streamate)

    I need to replacement options or one really GREAT one.


    Im sorry I keep going on and on...but I just cant help it right now.

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    I TOTALLY agree with you 1billion percent , Fuck your 35 bucks when i should be getting 100 , I saw on average most companys only put around 15% back into advertising there company, and if a company is ran by 1 or 2 people , there getting like 50% of what wer make for thereselves.

    Cam is really getting old , I cant take the percentage shit , and on MFC where the percent is decent , There girls willing to eat shit for dirt..

    RANT RANT RANT...

    us cam girls should take a percent of our income and put together a decent site for each other!
    Americanmade18 on most sites.

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    Hey girl!

    I totally know what you mean, you work so hard and just the fact that your selling your body in someway...we really deserve to be getting paid way more than that!

    I really suggest using niteflirt.com

    it really is the best advice i have ever gotten as a career move. I used to dance and while I still miss being on stage but the fact that niteflirt let me work right at home and on my own time!

    use the site! once you get the hang of it than you can really make lots of money, I usually make 3,000 - 6,000 on that site monthly.

    It is a phone line website but when the caller calls you can tell them to pay or tribute for you to go on cam and there you can keep making them tribute you money! it really is limitless! you can also just keep it at phone sex itself but going on cam is what your doing already so you can make tons more money off that with this site.

    Good luck girl! We are all on the same team!

    happy new year !

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    I promise you guys, and you can believe me or not...This year, I will be instrumental in changing this whole stupid game...I feel for you..ALL of you...


    It's fucking shit...You guys ARE this business...You guys seriously *ARE* this business. And they rape you...

    My girls don't work Stream....I allow them if they ask me, but I NEVER suggest it....

    Because it's NEVER ok to rape someone, and it's never ok to allow yourself to be raped from desperation. Because the women allowing themselves to be raped, create the environment where they((the lovely glorious "generous" camsites) KNOW they can exist and continue.

    Stop...Let's take this business and stick it to the bad guys.

    B

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    Default Re: $500 show + tips = under $200 for me

    I'm sorry you're having such a shit time. I can see why that would feel degrading. Can't you go indi?
    Licky like a tangerine


    .... Yea I said it!!!

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    Default Re: $500 show + tips = under $200 for me

    I'm sorry your feeling this way, I would feel like that too. I want to try camming again, and one of the reasons why I don't is because those percentages would make me feel the same way. Have you tried ifriends? I opened an account there, but just like the other sites I have accounts on, I havent tried it yet. I'm pretty sure if you're exclusive to them, they pay 50%. Maybe work it non-exclusive, and if you do well be exclusive?

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    Default Re: $500 show + tips = under $200 for me

    @Evil Hey hunny thanks! I already have a niteflirt account, and I put the buttons everywhere I can put that html. and guess what? Niteflirt SUCKS ASS, for me nowadays. I used to get a few calls a day from there, now its like 1 or 2 customers a week. I dont know what I need to do to step my niteflirt game up. but I do know giving free minutes or lowering the rates work , but they dont have enough traffic for me to willingly lower my rate.

    @Angel Sometimes I do say F it all and go indy... but when traffic slows down, I have to go "hunting" for men again. SOmetimes I dont wnat to "hunt" so now im back on a mainstream site.
    in general though, I am only on 2 low paying sites. 1 is mandatory, and i really cant tell you guys WHY its mandatory. The other one is streamate.
    the others are 50 + : rude.com , my.pussyplayground.net , niteflirt, and adultwork.


    I signed up to ifriends but they need a second id. Im not sure why I dodnt turn that in yet, but now i have motivation too...

    even 50% is not justifiable to me, but id do it withought feeling raped I tell you that much.

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    Update on last post i made :

    Im officially on Ifriends! My cut is 50% and if its MY customer its 100%
    =)

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    I am on Streamate also and to be honest since I started working AW have not been able to bring myself to sign on there. I have like $7.95 sitting on that account and would only need to make $20. To 0 out my account but UGH the 35% is very annoying when you know what you made for a total plus the endless annoying beggars in free chat. I totally know how you feel.

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    Default Re: $500 show + tips = under $200 for me

    Camwhore, I feel the same way about Streamate and Imlive. I rarely even use Streamate now, because not only do I hate the low rate but for me, the customer service sucks. They wont even answer my emails, and for me that's unacceptable. I get naked on your site, and I can't even get a simple email response? I havn't even been on there in weeks. I was thinking about getting back on for daily pay.

    No other site that I know of has that type of traffic, and lately I havn't been happy enough with them to even care about the traffic.

    Imlive sucks too. I rarely even cam on there anymore either. I am only getting on today and tommorrow because they are offering an extra 5% as a "gift" to us. LOL A GIFT? That's the least they could do. Raise our low ass percentage.

    Camwhore, I'm surprised you're not doing well on niteflirt. I get several calls per day, and my videos are selling daily as well. I have quite a few regulars, and don't even advertise as hard as I'm sure you advertise. I lowered my rate to 1.99 and lowered my videos to $5. I also did not want to lower a damn thing, but I had to. I was charging 2.99 per minute and charging $10 for videos. I was not getting any video sales, and no phone calls. I know you don't want to lower your rate, and you deserve to get paid what you want, but I think you should just try it.

    I hope to ONLY deal with Niteflirt, Adultwork, and other indy sites because of the high percentage. We need to show these low paying sites that we are worth more than their shitty low pay outs.

    Bambalina, I really do hope you are working on something great for 2011

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    Default Re: $500 show + tips = under $200 for me

    I wouldnt sell my videos for $5 unless I was selling my freaky teaser clips ( trust me, windows movie maker AUTO MOVIE will make you a freaky teaser clip...lol). But I would sell pic sets for $5. My ID is also $5 so I have alot a pride on this subject...lol

    Hmmm Im not so sure to sell phone with cam at 1.99 , the phone sex girls are charging that. Actually , niteflirt could go to, and I really wouldnt miss it. I dont even ad them in my daily to do anymore. THATS SAD.

    Almost all the black girls are low priced, and the videos are low priced, im thinknig thats not the site for me.

    I sell videos for 9.99 and up depending what im doing and how long im doing it for. Niteflirt is slowly starting to look like craigslist to me with all the cheap advertisements.

    ( NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE AT ALL, but got dammit, they ARE low priced on that site, I have to keep it real)


    the funny thing is, when i do all my little indy work/sites together I make much more money than a mainstream girl in a month, even if i didnt work for a week. Its just that freaking man hunt/ maunal billing/ yahoo video calls ... that i get tired of sometimes....lol

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    No offense taken at all. I do understand your point. In the beginning I refused to lower my rates on any site. In the beginning I was doing good as a cam model on Imlive charging 3.80. Now it's 2.80 no discount club. I wanted to charge 3.80 on Niteflirt too, but it didn't work, so lowered it to 2.99, and it still didn't work. I was not getting any income, and thought Niteflirt might be worthless, but I stuck to it because of all the good reviews.

    Then I decided to try 1.99, and sometimes my phone rings too much. My shows are longer on nitelflirt than any other site.

    But you know what's funny? I never log offline on nitelflirt. I just raise my rate really high between 15.99 and 24.99 in order not to get calls but remain on the top pages, and a few guys still call at that rate! But only 1 or 2

    I would love to charge more, and maybe one day I will experiment with it, but my bills wont allow me to experiment right now, unfortunately.


    Quote Originally Posted by CamWhore View Post
    I wouldnt sell my videos for $5 unless I was selling my freaky teaser clips ( trust me, windows movie maker AUTO MOVIE will make you a freaky teaser clip...lol). But I would sell pic sets for $5. My ID is also $5 so I have alot a pride on this subject...lol

    Hmmm Im not so sure to sell phone with cam at 1.99 , the phone sex girls are charging that. Actually , niteflirt could go to, and I really wouldnt miss it. I dont even ad them in my daily to do anymore. THATS SAD.

    Almost all the black girls are low priced, and the videos are low priced, im thinknig thats not the site for me.

    I sell videos for 9.99 and up depending what im doing and how long im doing it for. Niteflirt is slowly starting to look like craigslist to me with all the cheap advertisements.

    ( NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE AT ALL, but got dammit, they ARE low priced on that site, I have to keep it real)


    the funny thing is, when i do all my little indy work/sites together I make much more money than a mainstream girl in a month, even if i didnt work for a week. Its just that freaking man hunt/ maunal billing/ yahoo video calls ... that i get tired of sometimes....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by CamWhore View Post
    Update on last post i made :

    Im officially on Ifriends! My cut is 50% and if its MY customer its 100%
    =)


    Ifriends still has the "You get 50% if you're not on other sites/35% if you are with other sites" rule, right?
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    The percentages of most of these cam sites really is fucked up. I only got a lousy 20% when I was on Internet Modeling...LAME.

    Percentage-wise, the decent sites I know of that pay models at least half or better are Yahoo! Cam Girls Online, AdultWork, and MyFreeCams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    Ifriends still has the "You get 50% if you're not on other sites/35% if you are with other sites" rule, right?
    Yes unfortunately - so it's basically 50% until they catch you lol .

    Sucks.

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    The % is the main reason I've avoided streamate, Im used to making 60-70% so that just feels bogus to me. I rather not be live doing whatever I want around the house until I get a show, instead of always being watched and exposing myself for so little. I'm not trying to be mean or sound cocky... but I feel as though im worth so much more than 35% and if it bothers u so much than u know inside ur worth so much more urself




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    I promise you guys, and you can believe me or not...This year, I will be instrumental in changing this whole stupid game...I feel for you..ALL of you...


    It's fucking shit...You guys ARE this business...You guys seriously *ARE* this business. And they rape you...

    My girls don't work Stream....I allow them if they ask me, but I NEVER suggest it....

    Because it's NEVER ok to rape someone, and it's never ok to allow yourself to be raped from desperation. Because the women allowing themselves to be raped, create the environment where they((the lovely glorious "generous" camsites) KNOW they can exist and continue.

    Stop...Let's take this business and stick it to the bad guys.

    B
    I'd LOVE to get more percent, but think about what you are saying there hon - yeah it's not fun to only make 35% out of "desperation" but some of us have families to support and can not sit in front of the computer 12 hours a day waiting for a show on a site that pays a high percentage but with zero traffic.

    I'm definitely willing to participate in any business that can give me more percentage but you need to realize that most of us have bills to pay that can not wait, so some of us will need to work sites WITH traffic in the meantime.

    I'd definitely love to see this happen though and I'm eager to do what I can to help if necessary. Originally that is how Camcontacts started - from what I remember several cam hosts got a backer and put it together, however I think since then it was taken over by another agency. Unfortunately they know nothing about getting actual paying traffic. This seems to be where most sites fail.

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    Does anyone here know how many accounts you can have on NF? I need two different ones but I don't know if that's allowed. I have one for my Domme/Fetish stuff and now I want one for just regular phone sex but I HAVE to keep the two personas seperate, so I need to be able to have two accounts. I;m trying to find it in the rules but havn't yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    Does anyone here know how many accounts you can have on NF? I need two different ones but I don't know if that's allowed. I have one for my Domme/Fetish stuff and now I want one for just regular phone sex but I HAVE to keep the two personas seperate, so I need to be able to have two accounts. I;m trying to find it in the rules but havn't yet.
    You can have as many as you like. I have several different accounts on there. It's definitely good to have more than one for different personas.

    It's been awhile since I made an account, but as I recall, you can make up to three different accounts per phone number, and what you need to do is just use a different email for each account.

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    Oh perfect! Ive got the email covered, thanks sooo much. I'm going to go make a new account right now. Yaaaay!

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    Arialandre you can use bought/liscenced picture content if you wish to benefit from vanilla calls while keeping your own image as a Domme.

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    Oh it's ok, my look changes SOOO often that i have different pics of different styles, so it's all good for now

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    I only have 4 listings on my Niteflirt account right now. I will be working on more very soon. My favorite is the ignore line! I get paid to ignore men! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by CamWhore View Post
    OKay this is only my second time getting a $500 whale. I just finished my show and I am really ready to cry. While Im happy that i al;ready beat my goal for the DAY and its only 1 am... I am sick to my stomach.

    This was streamate.

    So many guys gave me gold today... And I honestly just wanted to tell them to keep it just to spare a little pride for myself.
    $20 gold =$7
    $50 = $17.50 WHAT? SERIOUSLY?

    Like im sitting here so frustrated. MY PU$$Y. MY BODY. MY RECORDING.

    I dont think I could stomach streamte for "traffic" anymore. I really do feel raped. yes I do know its %35 ahead of time. but sometimes you gotta do what you have to do.

    does anybody else feel sick? how do you get over it? do you really say well, they give me traffic? do you honestly think the traffic justify the percentage?

    I feel so VIOLATED. $184.92
    fuck you streamate =(


    I dont know what im saying. Im just ranting. I am angry, and very sad.

    same damn thing with me and LJ.... i made 700 dollars in a day and once they took their share i made... $245. It pissed me off so much that i pretty much said fuck them and went to aw. :p

    after your next paycheck, take your customers straight to aw or go Indy- don't let them continue to rob you D:

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