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    Default SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    So I recetnly opened a customer account on streamate to compare the rates of similar looking girls and see whats up with the 30 free seconds thing..

    As I was browsing thru girls rates i noticed most of them were MUCH higher than mine (2.14), 3.99 at the lowest up to about 6.99 for private..
    it had me wondering, if my rate is set too low or maybe if streamate adds on to your rate without you knowing, on top of taking their percent..

    as for the 30 seconds free thing..
    i logged onto a girls private show, it took about 30 seconds for her cam to even load, as soon as it did i left the room..
    i was charged 3.99, her private rate, for even entering the room, which said in the entrance prompt would be refunded? not sure why it said that cuz it wasnt and i was charged 2 more dollars for i dont know what since i was in the room for way less than 30 seconds..
    maybe the 30 second thing is false?

    idk what to make of all that? any ideas from anyone else?

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    wow 6.99? the max i can set is 4.99.

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    i just checked the scrolly on my page and the max for private is also 4.99, i doubt it would be different for different girls so that must mean streamate adds more onto your rate that youre also not seeing any profit from, doesnt it?! AHHHHH!

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    You can contact support and request that they raise your rate. I can raise my rate to 6.99 even though I haven't. =)

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyPurry View Post
    as for the 30 seconds free thing..
    i logged onto a girls private show, it took about 30 seconds for her cam to even load, as soon as it did i left the room..
    i was charged 3.99, her private rate, for even entering the room, which said in the entrance prompt would be refunded? not sure why it said that cuz it wasnt and i was charged 2 more dollars for i dont know what since i was in the room for way less than 30 seconds..
    maybe the 30 second thing is false?

    idk what to make of all that? any ideas from anyone else?
    I think the reason her cam took that long to load was a connection speed problem, either on your or her end.

    I have guys who pop in my room and immediately comment on what I am doing. Also Ihave banned numerous guys who come in for 20 seconds, leave, come in for 20 seconds, leave over and over. If they were not seeing video they wouldn't leave after 20 seconds and immediately return.

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Also Ihave banned numerous guys who come in for 20 seconds, leave, come in for 20 seconds, leave over and over. If they were not seeing video they wouldn't leave after 20 seconds and immediately return.


    This. I find it rude as hell when guys on MFC do that shit. If it kills you to use one hand to type "Hi" to me when I greet you, then yeah it's best that you exit my chat...but then you gonna come right back and then exit just as quickly? NOT cool. In fact, I'm trying to figure out why I can't ban one of these damn PM viewer guys (he's annoying). I tried to click on 'ban' twice, but he's still sitting there as a PM viewer.
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    https://cammodelpay.com/ref?page=&campaign=&affToken=NDcx

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    This is really interesting.
    Kitty - one way of checking your theory would be to start your SM broadcast in one browser (such as internet explorer) and then open another browser (such as firefox) and then go to your own feed and check your rate. If it's more than it's set to at your end, you know that SM is putting a premium on it.

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    tihs is interesting...

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    ^Yes, very interesting... I would not be shocked to find more shady business from SM

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    Maybe they only get 20 seconds freebie in private?

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    First, up your rate! See how you do. I am never below 3.99/4.99. (hopefully that won't change)
    I did the same, got an account so I could check things out before I started camming to get a feel for it. I never did a paid pvt. I saw some girls at 6.99 also, and the few I saw weren't "porn stars." Maybe they have been on for
    years ? Grandfathered in??? My max choice is 4.99. I also saw some x-porn aka porn star girls (really grose and fat and old with no makeup, etc) openly promoting their dvd and websites. Maybe they have dif terms for them since the might draw more people to the site.

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyPurry View Post
    as for the 30 seconds free thing..
    i logged onto a girls private show, it took about 30 seconds for her cam to even load, as soon as it did i left the room..
    i was charged 3.99, her private rate, for even entering the room, which said in the entrance prompt would be refunded? not sure why it said that cuz it wasn’t and i was charged 2 more dollars for i don’t know what since i was in the room for way less than 30 seconds..
    KITTY, Thanks for doing this, lets take it a little further... Why didn't you choose a girl that was 99cents a min to experiment with? Did you log out of the paid chat before 30 sec were up from the time you clicked yourself into the paid private? You said you waited for vid to load which took longer than 30 sec, so you would most likely be charged. I'd click out clear of the 30 to see what happens. Allow for internet delay. As for the extra charges, call customer support and ask them for an explanation and post back to us!!

    If your really curious... when we do a private, there is NO time counter. Nada zip! Would be interesting to videotape the pvt chat screen while camming and at the end of the session do an audit. Clock all paid sessions from the video tape replay, (ya this could take a few hours min). Then match it up with what paid sessions we had and who was and wasn't charged aka 30 sec peep. This is not something i have time or really want to do on any regular basis in any way! BUT it would shed a light on the 30 sec thing and if streamate is practicing any type of shaving, which i sort of don't think so, but...
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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    I have seen the same thing with the models advertising their site and have saw links below the chat window as links to other sites, so I am going to say that there is something different going on there. Again, the rate thing is just request away, just like static photos, etc. I was told it can only go to $9.99, but I swear I saw someone at $13.99 before.

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    ^^^I've seen the advertising thing too. Oh and I just love you ladies and this site! You all are soooooo amazing!

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    Quote Originally Posted by AmberCaramel View Post
    I have seen the same thing with the models advertising their site and have saw links below the chat window as links to other sites, so I am going to say that there is something different going on there. Again, the rate thing is just request away, just like static photos, etc. I was told it can only go to $9.99, but I swear I saw someone at $13.99 before.
    Oh ya, good add... I requested some time back to get the static photo, and got it promptly. That helps a lot.

    Don't wanna jack the thread, but anyone wanna try upping rates over 4.99 this weekend???

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    The 1st 30 seconds are free, but if you go over that by even 1 second, you get charged for an entire minute. Not sure if anyone knew about that.
    I guess that helps us girls (very little, but hey it's something) if they stay for 31 seconds at least we get paid for the whole minute.

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    fat old ugly what ever they can charge what they like dont mean no one wont take them priv. I see hot ones just ignore the guys and the not so good looking ones really work hard and they bank.

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    30 seconds is an insane amount of time. Streamate this needs to STOP.

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    You CAN request to raise your rates. The highest I have seen is 13.99 for exclusive (AmyFisher), but I have heard that there is someone who charges 14.99.

    No, SM does NOT 'add' onto your rate. What YOU set your rate at is what the customer gets charged. I get guys all the time coming in and telling me my rate is too high.... "What?!? $X.XX per minute?!? Girl, I wouldn't pay that to fuck you in REAL life!" Very satisfying to be taken into an exclusive session right after they finish typing that out. Ahhhh. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica1001 View Post
    You CAN request to raise your rates. The highest I have seen is 13.99 for exclusive (AmyFisher), but I have heard that there is someone who charges 14.99.

    No, SM does NOT 'add' onto your rate. What YOU set your rate at is what the customer gets charged. I get guys all the time coming in and telling me my rate is too high.... "What?!? $X.XX per minute?!? Girl, I wouldn't pay that to fuck you in REAL life!" Very satisfying to be taken into an exclusive session right after they finish typing that out. Ahhhh. :-)

    -J
    Yes, you can request to get the ability to raise your rate higher than 4.99. I have a friend who does a particular type of fetish and she is higher than that.

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    I made a thread about this before and talked to some reps about it. They said that their billing platform requires that customers have to watch at least 30 seconds before it can charge them so they probably can't change that, but supposedly they're working on putting a stop to guys leaving and entering over and over.

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    ahahah they're 'working on' it! stream makes so much MONEY and come on what other cam site does this. fuck stream

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    Default Re: SM: the 30 second thing and something else im curious about

    I'm not on streamate but thought about digning up there. What's the "30 secs thing"? Do guys get 30 seconds free when they come in private? Same as on imlive?

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    Eroteea, thats correct. And they LOVE to abuse it, half a miunte free, over and over again , logging in and out of other customers paying shows as they wish.
    It disgusts me.
    I doubt VERY much they will change anything, which is a pity because I would love to cam longer on there. Makes me so angry.

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    wow.. that sucks! I hate that on imlive, too. :-(

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    Part of the reason i abandoned imlive. The main rason why I rarely bother with streamate. I really wanna make it work there, but privates should NEVER be free.

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