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    Default Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    I am SOOOOO tired of working at clubs that are crawling with extras guys and girls and not being able to make any money!!! Last night, Friday, a fucking friday night, I left with a hundred bucks and a severely pissy attitude. All night guys are asking "can I touch your pussy?" "will you give me a blowjob?/how much for a blowjob?" or "will you touch me down there?" along with the standard "You're so nice you're the kind of girl I can talk to, that other girl was crazy, come out with me to this party after!"

    The worst is the extras though because five minutes later they've found someone who will do what they want. So: I came up with this idea, well, more realised what a good idea it is, because I think I heard something verrrry similar on the board already. I already KNOW that its sneaky, and underhanded and that there are potential bad concequences, but my money is really hurting as a clean dancer and I need to do something about it!

    So next time someone asks me to do whatever, I say something like "sure" or something more vague like "You can touch me wherever you like baby" take them up for a dance, and when they try to break the rules (going for the kitty most common) say "ohhhh hold on you have to be a good boy and let me get in a good tease first" or "slow down I have all the time in the world for you" or if they need more specific answers "You don't think I'm going to break the rules for 1 or two songs do you? I get more lenient/do my most naughty dances after 4 or 5 songs..." Proceed to give normal lapdance for 4-5 songs and then give a dirtier lap dance (but still not breaking the rules) and when they try, act dumb/confused, and get your money There is a bouncer that always counts songs so if the guy tried not to pay I think he would have a hard time getting away with it.

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    I think its a bad idea to actually SAY you're going to do it.... I act ditsy around customers so whenever they get the idea, I play dumb so when in the VIP they go "arent you going to .... ?" I blank stare and go "What.............. That?! I didnt know!" I never agree to actual acts.
    If you want to do that, go at your own risk, you could get introuble with the staff, or the customer could complain, or worse.

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    Go for it just make sure you watch out for la hura They will always look for an excuse to bust you.
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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    Quote Originally Posted by Kisca View Post
    I think its a bad idea to actually SAY you're going to do it.
    x2. Depending on the club, I could see it going quite badly if someone were to overhear. That and you never know who you're talking to and how angry they may get after being promised something, paying for it, and then you not delivering. Just watch out for yourself!

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    Definitely watch out about directly saying that you will do something specific...you could get in a lot of trouble!! If you find that you are working at a club with a lot of girls who are doing extras, why not consider moving to a different club?

    I tend to try to avoid the question ever coming up, but if they do, I tend to say "you want to know what goes on back there?" and they (obviously) say yes, so I say "well, there's only one way to find out!" big smile, wink, lead them away...
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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    Sorry you were having that kind of night. It can get frustrating. Sometimes I feel like that clubs are just different now, much more hands on. I come from LA though where that's all there is. Even Vegas in my experience is very hands on. It doesn't bother me, but it can be hard on girls who don't like to be touched at all or find that customers want more than they want to provide.


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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    I'm with Kisca on this one. Just kinda ..... hint at the extras, but don't promise anything. Keep it vague and flirty.

    It's a bad idea, but I'm guilty of doing the same thing actually.

    Let us know how it goes!

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    Deffinately dont say your going to do something your not.

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    I would just say "Do you normally ask this many questions?" With a tempting voice and lead them by the hand. It will kill two birds with one stone. I think it saves time, you don't have to admit to anything and it can help you figure out if its a cop, a time waster, or someone that wants extra but never going to get it from you.

    I like that your leading them. Just be careful what you say. Even if your club is extra city there might still be cops and most of the time cops will keep quiet if they get what they want for free and if you agree and don't give them what they want they will have a fit.

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    Deffinately dont say your going to do something your not.
    correct on two counts ...

    #1 - this will create expectations on the part of the paying customer that he is entering into a business transaction that involves 'delivery of certain services' for a certain price. When those 'certain services' aren't actually delivered, the custy is likely to feel that he has been 'ripped off'. While club bouncers are likely to stop the custy from reacting in a hostile manner at that place and time, this doesn't mean that the custy won't choose to react later or publicize the impression that he was 'ripped off' by a particular dancer to other customers. With the existance of strip club review websites that allow customer postings, a negative customer post about being 'ripped off' by a particular dancer can be read by, and can affect the future spending of, hundreds of other potential club customers. And in extreme cases, such an 'offended' customer can potentially create problems for the dancer outside of the club's protection.

    #2 - if the custy turns out to be an undercover cop, a dancer's statement of willingness to provide sexual contact in exchange for any form of payment ... even if that statement isn't followed up by actually providing the sexual contact ... still constitutes legal grounds for a solicitation of prostitution bust.

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    Ok, I get that being vague is better in case its an undercover cop but what do you do when most customers directly ask you "do you do ___" or "can I ___"? Is there a way to be vague there? It's such a direct question that I think it would be hard to not answer. Better yet, I'd like to know how the smart girls that do extras actually phrase their offering (because they don't want to get caught either). I don't really know how to imply extras in a way that isn't going to get me potentially in trouble but also is convincing enough so the customer believes me?

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    Quote Originally Posted by Odette View Post
    Ok, I get that being vague is better in case its an undercover cop but what do you do when most customers directly ask you "do you do ___" or "can I ___"? Is there a way to be vague there? It's such a direct question that I think it would be hard to not answer. Better yet, I'd like to know how the smart girls that do extras actually phrase their offering (because they don't want to get caught either). I don't really know how to imply extras in a way that isn't going to get me potentially in trouble but also is convincing enough so the customer believes me?
    How about not imply extras at all? I think that is your safest bet.

    I like to sell what I can offer in a very sultry way. Like "back there honey I will touch you all over!" as I do one way contact dances and I am not shy to grind all over the dude.



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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    Don't blatantly rip guys off!!! That just adds to the problem. If you tell some guy you'll do one thing then don't deliver, he could be a violent psycho who'll harm you, he could skip out on paying, or he could be a cop waiting to bust you for solicitation.

    Play dumb, giggle when they ask for extras, etc. But never agree to something you're not willing to do.


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    I do want to bring up that if you say your going to do something and you dont and the customer gets mad and complains, the bouncers and management will probably get him out of there or keep an eye on him. But if multiple customers complain, you could potentially get in trouble by them or lose their trust.

    I havent tried this yet but a male dancer friend of mine says that when a guy keeps asking him for extras he says kind of anxiously "what are you a cop? because only a cop would ask those specific questions. I just want to have a good time with you and i thought u were cool/hot/fun but you keep asking me all of these questions... "

    I don't know if it would work, but i depending on the guy, it could if he feels that he needs to defend how "cool" (or hot/fun/etc) you "thought" he was until he started asking all of those questions.

    He said that if the customer responds by saying "well so-and-so promised they would do something for me here once in VIP and they didnt even get undressed/dance/suck me off/etc,
    then go back to the whole "cop" thing

    i dont know if it would work but he told me this the other week when i was complaining about the same thing last week.

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    it depends. you can try it, but a lot of guys know how this works. if that's what they're looking for. and they don't care about the cop shit. to them, you're a stupid whore. you aren't worried about getting arrested. all you're worried about is how bad your pimp will beat you if you don't such dick and make money. because if the club is like that, i promise you that the girls doing that are hustling like streetwalkers, straight up offering prostitution. the tricks know it. they know a girl who plays coy is full of shit. hell, they're probably used to girls doing extras for the price of a lapdance, for less even, in the hope that they'll get paid more. they're used to being able to jip a hooker after they fuck her.

    lie if you want, but i promise you that if you're at a club that attracts johns, it won't work on most of them. and if you do it, don't be cutesy. don't be witty. act like a brainwashed ho who's desperate to stave off a beating, or a act like a junky. otherwise, they'll know you're full of shit.
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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    I'm not sure how bad it is in your city, but is it really that bad that it's worth spending an entire dance/string of dancing batting away a dude expecting extras? I hate dancing for customers that are expecting extras and can't usually last more than 2 dances because it's not worth the mental and physical energy to keep telling them no or literally batting them away. If they're being that explicit in what they're asking of you, I feel like they'll just get angry that you don't deliver, or they're just not a sale for you since you're not willing to do what they're looking for.

    That being said, if I get someone who doesn't make their expectations known until the dance, I say things like, "If you're a good boy I can be a bad girl" to get them to calm the fuck down and stop trying to kiss me/touch me in inappropriate places. This way, I'm not promising anything I won't deliver and I'm still super vague. But I think there's some customers that you just can't make a sale to as a clean dancer.

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    Default Re: Fed UP!!! Sneaky idea for when guys ask for extras

    ^ yep. its THAT bad. Like if your club is anything like where I worked it was pretty rare for guys to actually ask for extras, the worst I got most of the time was boundary-pushing. And that was maaaaybe one dude a shift. Here about 1/2 the dudes will blatantly ask for extras, and 1/2 the guys you end up dancing for are boundary-pushers--trying to get you to do stuff you don't want to even though they weren't asking you about extras upfront. If you don't give in they will stop you after 1 or 2 songs. Its very rare to find a well-behaved respectable gentleman. So: since at least 1/2 the guys in the club want extras--whether they are upfront about it to you or not--it gets very frustrating trying to get dances honestly. I've been trying to figure out a cute and honest way to get more dances the last 4 months and I'm just stumped lol. Playing ninja for 2 songs for a couple of dudes a night and those $40 increments add up. Not the best sitch, but you gotta work with what you have unfortunately

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    nvm.....

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