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    Default Re: MFC Girls Who Don't Get Nude...

    I found this on another site and wanted to share, this not my comment..
    the following comment was made in response to a discussion about MFC camgirls who don't really "do" anything for the money/tokens they make:

    Here's the link to the comment & website


    http://mycamgirl.net/review/shyteen2...-star#comments

    BY: CokeBaron

    Let me preface this by stating that I’m in no way pointing fingers or assigning guilt on anyone, but I thought perhaps everyone might like to know how the Romanian credit card fraud scam works.

    [Takeaway fact number 1. 80-100% of all online card transactions originating in Romania are frauded.]

    First, let it be said that no stolen numbers are being used online on camsites. These can be charged-back and the processor will usually tack on an extra fee to the merchant, so no camsite would be willingly complicit in such a scheme.

    [Takeaway fact number 2. Many processors and merchants will not even accept credit card transactions from Romania. You may not, for example, even get an Xbox Live or Playstation Network account there.]

    So how does it work? It’s simple and very widespread. Like many organized crime groups the world over, the Romanians specialize in infiltrating POS or Point of Sale(ie. at a store) card processing units with easily-installed software or devices which can record the card information of those who shop there and make purchases with their cards throughout the day.

    These compromised units are generally located in retail establishments in other European countries, with the UK, France, Italy and Greece topping the list. It is not uncommon for merchants or employees to be offered 10 000 euros or more to allow their systems to modified to record numbers, so the incentive is there. It’s called skimming and I can’t overstate how widespread it is even in North America (with other groups) so let this serve as a warning to be discerning in where you use your plastic.

    Now, once these electronic copies of the cards have been taken and transmitted, it is a relatively simple matter for the cards to be re-printed in Romania. Indeed, forged plastic copies of the cards are created, and then they are used at bank ATMs to withdraw as much cash as possible, and then the cards are thrown away.

    The amount of money generated by this scheme is huge, in the high hundreds of millions of dollars annually in Romania alone; however, it does leave the issue of legitimizing or laundering that income. That is where the webcam studio business starts to become lucrative.

    [Takeaway fact number 3. The majority of credit cards used on camsites are actually pre-paid cards.]

    The pre-paid card, a fraudster’s best friend. While many people use them legitimately to protect their identities, or for ease of use or other reasons, the fact remains that these cards are easy to get, often with little or no checks or identifying information required(ie. gift cards) and can be reloaded with cash again and again with no red tape. The cash withdrawn from the ATMs is loaded onto exactly these kind of cards- and note that the money is not laundered at this point, it has merely changed forms from real cash to plastic cash.

    The next step is to open a studio. In Romania, the studios are almost all affiliated at least nominally with the same criminal organizations skimming the cards. The studio then hires girls to work the cams, generally on 7 or 8 different camsites at a time, and use that pre-paid plastic on those sites to take their own girls private or give them large tips. The camsite thus represents a legal business entity that pays the studio business clean money, ostensibly for the girls ‘hard work.’ The money is at this point washed.

    Now one might think that this is an expensive pay-off to the camsites who are taking a 50-75% cut of the money being spent, but this is not the case. First off, a 50% cut to wash money is not bad at all, particularly in the volumes that these schemes rake in. Secondly, there is a herd effect on camsites- particularly on a site like MFC where there are less models and higher tip volumes per model. Make one girl a top model, and let non-affiliated members see her being tipped heavily or taken into private often, and they will start tipping and taking her private in turn. This snowball effect serves to offset a large part of the camsite’s profit rake, to say nothing of the prizes given for hitting top model status(much higher than MFC on some sites).

    [Takeaway fact number 4. Camsites call that snowball effect "Frenzy." See the Flirt4Free model manual section about it for some interesting reading(http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/i...howtopic=40).]

    All in all, it works out very nicely for the camsites (which is why they turn a blind eye to it, as they are safely removed from the criminal element), as well as for the studio-scammers who are able to safely turn their ill-gotten gains into legal cash. The “chosen girls” who partake in the schemes generally have some idea of what’s going, are very nicely taken care of, and in the end actually see a very minute fraction of the money they “earn” per se.

    Bottom line, if something looks too good to be true, or seems impossible to be what it appears to be- then it is. If you want to be one of those sweetening the pot on an already-lucrative scam, for some Romanian gangsters who are likely much wealthier than you are and their pretty girlfriends, then by all means do so.

    As a final note, I’d like to add that many Romanian girls are not part of any scheme and make their meager earnings with good old hand, fist and toy like all the rest, but even in those cases the majority of their earnings are again sweetening the deal for the studio-scammers. Something to keep in mind.

    I hope this has given you all some food for thought, and as a word to MyCamgirl- I trust you won’t remove this comment as all I have said here I know from extensive experience and is verifiable with a minimum of research.

    Best regards and happy camming,

    Cokebaron
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    Borracha99
    FlawlessSon
    SashaCCCP
    PionerXee
    Oasis100
    PeasantsDie
    etc..
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    Default Re: MFC Girls (Shyutza and others) Who Don't Get Nude...

    as intricate as this reads i can believe it. it basically solidifies what some of the vets have been saying but actually goes in depth with it.

    soooo is the guy who wrote this dead now or in hiding - because this sounds like some gangsta, pimps and hoes type of stuff? j/k

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    Default Re: MFC Girls (Shyutza and others) Who Don't Get Nude...

    There are many many scams afoot in the world of adult entertainment. Like I talked about, Affiliate Programs are a RAMPANT scam for many camsites. Paying yourself to advertise is a great way to justify low payout rates and so on.

    This scam...seems a little far fetched, and what I mean by that is that it probably happens, but it isn't as widespread as this makes it seem.

    Ever wonder why Amazon GCs go for more than stated cost on eBay?

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    Default Re: MFC Girls (Shyutza and others) Who Don't Get Nude...

    Even last night during moments where I was nude covered in baby oil, I only had like maybe 50 people tops in my room. Usually actions like that would have over 100 people in my room.

    I see top hosts get tips when they're on the phone, walking away from the cam to get coffee, etc., and I think "Wow, lucky her!"
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    Default Re: MFC Girls (Shyutza and others) Who Don't Get Nude...

    im sure some do carding and I know *model* is from romania but this is not truth:

    "In Romania, the studios are almost all affiliated at least nominally with the same criminal organizations skimming the cards"

    There are many legal and serious studios, if all would do that, would be all the from there in top, I know models working from studio on MFC and they do decent money, others close to nothing.

    But instead I've been proposed, as an independent model, by a guy came into my private to do a deal like that. Don know where he is from but wanted to spend money from hacked cards and send him a part, or make the client fill the info in a fake indy site so he gets his infos and send me a part. Of course I refused.
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    Default Re: MFC Girls (Shyutza and others) Who Don't Get Nude...

    lol do you REALLY think MFC would allow someone to remain on the site when they repeatedly engage in chargeback fraud? No. Even if they were not the ones doing the fraud, if you look at an overall snapshot of all models and one model was getting a million chargebacks or really high ones repeatedly, she would be kicked from the site as a liability. Hence why most Romanian cam girls are required to sign up through a studio, so that the chargebacks fall back on the studio, not the site.

    Second, there are very few non-nude models (like .0001% of cammodels) but most are not Romanian, most are American (or maybe Canadian as well).



    Quote Originally Posted by Cosima View Post
    So from what I've read it seems like Shyutza was the case of self made star on MFC, however it seems a little fishy because of her being non nude most of the time. I don't know, does anyone know more about her story and how she made it to the top?
    She made is to the top by having a handful of rich regulars who love to spend, like all top MFC girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    lol do you REALLY think MFC would allow someone to remain on the site when they repeatedly engage in chargeback fraud? No.


    Exactly.

    A while back on MFC, I got a chargeback of 1,000+ tokens (I was SHOCKED and PISSED) from one guy. All of that money I got from a private show and public chat tips...GONE! And MFC banned that member account because they said it was credit card fraud.
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    I was just talking to my husband about this. I didn't know the specifics about how it works. He criticized that 50+% was a lot to give up for laundering. I don't know what the going rate is though.

    When Skin Video got hit with like $10,000+ in chargebacks in one month about a year ago it was due to Eastern European money laundering. I guess the guys will go and tip some other girls too as to try to take some of the focus off the girls involved.

    I would think that they would have to keep using new models and opening new virtual studios so that kinda rules out laundering being the reason behing a girl's rocket to MFC stardom.
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    OP in case you missed it, there is a new rule that says you cannot "out" another model by name. I've deleted the name from the posts in this thread. Next time I have to do it there will be warnings/infractions handed out.

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...46#post2298446


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    Cosima, to avoid getting an infraction - check out the post above yours, may want to edit it

    Holy cow at the search terms that bring up this thread. No wonder it has so many views for so few posts, I was wondering why. Oh pirated-content hunters, you obsessive creepy wankers. Here's an idea: pay the models you like. If not, the inner circle of hell contracts for a team of camgirls to review all of your hard drives on entrance to hell. Then, depending on the volume of files they poke you with very sharp knife, then twist the knife 360 degrees. Ouchie. I hear it is one poke per file, eep! Then I hear they insert one fire ant per wound and staple it shut D:

    So just pay. It is painful to rid yourself of the freeloading virus I know, but the pain subsides after a the first few seconds. In fact, thousands of people have beat freeloaderism and do it every day. I believe in your ability to overcome this horrible affliction by getting a premium account and to keep reloading it. You can do it! I believe!





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    Quote Originally Posted by roast View Post
    Cosima, to avoid getting an infraction - check out the post above yours, may want to edit it
    You are such a bad ass. I knew I could count on you to help keep ppl in line.


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    I'm so confused. It took me forever to realize this original post is from January 2011. As in.... an entire year ago. And I can't figure out why it got brought up again.... I'M SO CONFUSED!!!!!!!!! Did I miss something.... it looks like the posts just continue on from over a year ago and no one notices that it's super old. Maybe I'm seriously missing something!
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    Default Re: MFC Girls Who Don't Get Nude...

    the comments and reviews on that website are from 2009 !
    that is 3 years ago..
    Not relevant in 2012.

    3 years ago MFC had probably 200 girls online...
    they have over 1000 now.

    and to everyone who wonders how some models are top models now? Well..
    3 years of CONSTANT attention to 1 particular site will make anyone a top model.
    Work 8 hours a day or more, like these ladies do and U'll get there...
    After 3 years.........

    that plus be super cute and look super good...
    always.

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