^ If they can get VIPs all the time, then I guess you are a waste of their time. But I consider VIP a waste of money.





sometimes the vip is actually an incentive, i.e. bargain, for what one would be paying for just dances, drinks, tips, etc. for that time.
the only thing is, it doesn't really help the dancer that much, as most of it goes to the club, so while patrons may think she's getting a lot of it, the dancer is still very dependent on a healthy tip from the customer. I always like to help out the girls over the clubs.
I wish I knew what I was doing...





^ Depends on the club. Some take an insane cut, some take none at all, some take a smaller cut.
I don't regret a single dollar I've ever spent on a VIP, lol.





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"You're too hot, I don't think I could handle you..." = I am cheap / broke / whatever




To be fair, some of "The Untouchables" that I have approached have turned out to be shy, gentle sweethearts, whose company I enjoyed immensely once the ice was broken.
But some....whoa.
I can see why they were left alone, lest they bite your head off and shit down your neck for having the nerve to even approach them.

That's exactly the behavior I'm talking about. There is money to be made and these girls don't want to chase it. Using myself as an example (and I think I'm similar to a lot of guys), I might only buy a normal lap dance first, but if the girl is entertaining in that dance, I'm probably gonna spring for the VIP dances next. As Almost Jaded notes above, VIP time is rarely a regret. In fact, the only time I have regretted it is when I chose to be sold by one of these untouchable types and even in VIP got a robot dance.




I am not trying to be harsh here. So do not go crying to moderators. But if you were just a tad bit wiser about VIPs, you would have adequate savings in the bank. Which means you would not have to sob about your money situation in the forum. People are product of the choices they make.





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"If you're good at something, never do it for free." The Dark Knight
"you conjunctively engender an intoxicating combination of wicked, wholesome & insanely intelligent" - a friend describing me
Blessed Be
Girls that won't do anything but rooms make me laugh all the way to the bank hahaah.
I wish I knew what I was doing...








That's why I've never gone VIP. I pay enough to be humiliated as it is. If the dancer does well in a regular short dance, and I like her enough, then possibly I'd go after VIP after that. But never on the first dance. Not that those types of dancers should be worried by what I do - obviously there are enough customers to whom VIP prices are small change or who are just careless or compulsive spenders.
It is one of two options
#1. He is telling the truth and he is a wussy man but MIGHT still has money to spend, maybe
#2. He is just a cheap bastard who has to come up with lame excuses
I would spend atleast one song or two trying to size him up, you need to remember, some guys come to the club because they lack the social skills to approach women, he could be telling the truth.
I have had success with these guys, stroking their ego, and making them feel as if I truly wanted them down to the core, as if they were my perfect sexual match, and it shows, and it gets them to drop their guard and spend money.
Who cares if they are manly or not, our job isn't to find a mate, it is to make money and seduce men, some are different than others.
Everyone has a different mind set, I will atleast spend a song worth of time to make them feel desirable and wanted, and then they will feel comfortable to be more open and spend money, whether it is on me or with another stripper.
The club isn't a normal setting, the visitors are men who want attention, affection, respect, and to feel sexually and sometimes emtionally wanted, and needed.
Show them (by pretending) that they are human beings worthy of love, lust and sexual desire, and if they have money, they will open up.
Out of a six to ten hour shift, showing one man, 3 minutes of affection, isn't that much, not that you should do it all the time as you would probably waste an entire shift, lol
But sometimes It's a good idea to try and see from a perspective of a man with low social skills and what he is looking for.
I may be wrong, but through my experience, I've met a lot of men with very poor social skills using this life
All they need is a little attention![]()





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There is, to an extent, a certain suspension of disbelief required to enjoy a dancer's company, at least for me. A lap dance I can enjoy regardless (bring on the uber-hotness), but for chit chat and company, the more she hits either extreme on the "hotness scale," the more friendliness and approachability become important to me. I'd say to the OP that if you're hearing this line a lot, maybe reflect on your approchability a bit (and I don't mean this in the sense of guys approaching/asking you for dances). Based on the replies though, I seem to be in the minority opinion, so what do I know.![]()





Couldn't help it the other night. It was too perfect.
"You're too hot, I don't think I could handle you"
"That's ok, I'll go looking for a real man that can"
Sorry I missed church. I was too busy practicing witchcraft and becoming a lesbian.
"If you're good at something, never do it for free." The Dark Knight
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