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    I have noticed that some girls who I consider to be very average on the attractiveness scale are top earners usually. They aren't typically particularly busty, curvy, or unique looking. Oftentimes they have plain looks. I'd rate them about a 6-7. Some of them don't put much effort into their makeup, outfits, or hair. But for some odd reason they're churning out dance after dance for a wide array of customers. Why is this? Wouldn't guys come to a club to get the attention of the most beautiful bombshells or is that too intimidating? I'm always confused about this, because there are some girls who I consider to be STUNNING and they make very subpar money. Does being average cause one to overcompensate with their hustle??

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    There are a lot of different answers to that question.

    Sometimes the more attractive dancers tend to try and skate by on their looks, and don't put forth any effort in making conversation or selling.

    Sometimes less attractive dancers compensate for their plainness by offering extras.

    Sometimes the less attractive dancers have really engaging people skills and better personalities than the more attractive ones.

    Sometimes the more attractive dancers get a bit of a diva complex, which can put off most customers.

    And sometimes guys are intimidated by the super attractive dancers, and tend to go more for the plain ones, simply because they're afraid of rejection. Although they are in a strip club and it logically makes no sense, a lot of guys just have a habit of "settling" for someone they view as less likely to reject them. And think about it--strippers can be pretty intimidating anyways, and a lot of guys can kind of wuss out when it comes to approaching the hottest girl in the club. I think they subconsciously view them as "out of their league."

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    Default Re: Beautiful vs. Plain/Average

    What firemaiden says. Plus, attractiveness is pretty subjective and guys have all sorts of different tastes, and many don't go there for purely physical attraction. A rapport and connection with a stripper can be more enticing than a perfect 10 anyway.

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    Default Re: Beautiful vs. Plain/Average

    Also guys' tastes are usually totally different than girls'.

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    There are many threads on this that go on and on..
    Guys have different tastes.. And so I hear talking to a regular stripper is scary as it is.. Than a beatiful stripper is heart dying...

    Overall men want the WHOLE experience, usually I hear guys complaining that the attractive girls dont talk to the customers are much as the regular girls, so that turns them off.. What firemaiden said pretty sums it up

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    Default Re: Beautiful vs. Plain/Average

    While the other factors may have some peripheral impact, I'd bet that - these days - the major factor is 'extras'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    While the other factors may have some peripheral impact, I'd bet that - these days - the major factor is 'extras'.
    Eh, you're probably right, above all else. It's sort of impossible at my club to do extras per se, I mean it'd be a real chore to even touch someone's dick since the bouncers are staring most of the time. But I'm willing to bet there's little things the girls do that are extra-ish.

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    I say it's a combination of what you all said.

    For some guys it's the "extras girls", or maybe just the perception that a sub par girl is more likely to do extras?

    Also, a lot of guys are into girls at the club that they believe they could actually stand a chance with in the real world--a girl who is just not a fantasy to them, but that they really believe they can hook up with.

    Of course, there are probably a lot more reasons than that, but I've actually heard customers say things in passing like, "I could definitely take that one home" when staring at a sub-par dancer working the pole.

    I think that makes an automatic "connection" in their mind with them and that dancer. Then again, I've always been a big believer that when you pick your stripper name, you should choose one that sounds real... like Amber, Crystal, Jasmine or whatever. Guys actually think that it might really be your name, and hence, if you use your name, you are not that secret. It's all about the fantasy of what the man thinks can happen that rakes in the money.

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    Guys don't think they way girls do. They're not looking for a girl with a super model appearence, they're looking for a girl that looks like fun in every sense of the word.

    A girl that looks sexual and who acts like she is enjoying what she is doing will get a better response from guys than a girl who's only attribute is a hot body.

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    In my experience this is because the 'superhot' girls (subjective) use their looks to make up for their lack of personalities. They don't come across as personable, they come across as egocentric. Which is why, in my experience, most girls who get BAs don't actually make more money, because they use their tits as personality fillers.

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    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    LMAO, well said Athena!

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    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    boobs can be a great personality filler. i dont have fakes, but considering the club i work at i have some of the larger breasts in there. a good portion of my sales skills is me rubbing my boobs and pushing them together while talking to men.

    knock it all you like, but its very effective. men do think with their penises. googly eyes and correct use of your breasts can easily override the logic function in men that says "hey, i might regret spending 1,000$ at the strip club tonight." it can be a very effective method of making quick sales with little to know rapport. there is a reason why i typically only spend about 4 hours at work .

    i dont know why people knock the overly sexual hustle so much. that, combined with my good sense of humor and general fun demeanor while making it clear that i am only fun when i am getting paid has been a golden combination for me. making the most of your breasts doesnt mean a lack of personality, it means you are working smart and efficiently. this is the sex industry after all.
    Totally agreed...I'd probably make more money if I used this hustle! Hard for me to stomach though. Maybe if I return to dancing, this will be my new mantra!

    My only point was knocking girls who literally have no personality or a bad personality and expect that their hot bodies will make up for it completely. I didn't mean to put down having fake boobies!!

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    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    This brings to mind Cleopatra and Anne Boleyn. Neither one of them were conventional beauties. (Cleo was kinda fugly -_-) They both knew how to make the most of what they had. Both women were ambitious, had a set of brass ones, very intelligent, and they had sex appeal. They both knew that it took more than sex to entice a man. Any little bitch (hot or not) can disrobe and spread her legs.
    Looks will give you an edge but in the end they only take you so far.
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    I agree with that totally. One of the hottest girls I ever worked with wasn't hot in the beauty department... she was average face with an average body. But by god, she knew how to work it like no one else! And that's sexier than hell!

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    Case in point: Mary Boleyn, Anne's sister. She was the so called "conventional" beauty. (malleable, good personality, trained in all the wifely virtues, blah blah -_-)She was Henry VIII's mistress for awhile, but he got tired of her, even though she was considered the hotter of the two sisters.
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    I once worked at a club where a classic beauty would complain guys ignored her. She was your stereortypical dancer with large breasts, blonde hair, tanned, etc yet often didn't make house. Why? Because she was a terrible person who would complain about everything and sat in a corner figuring guys would contact her because she was hot. Meanwhile the same club boasted a fat black girl who banked. She banked because she had naturally large breasts and a butt and she was a nice person. Never underestimate a great personality in a club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    In my experience this is because the 'superhot' girls (subjective) use their looks to make up for their lack of personalities. They don't come across as personable, they come across as egocentric. Which is why, in my experience, most girls who get BAs don't actually make more money, because they use their tits as personality fillers.
    But... What about those rare gems that are superhot and have personality? I consider myself one of those and I do very well but when I have a few bad nights I try to use the overly sexual hustle, but I've been told that I don't pull of the slut thing very well. Another dancer told me that I don't look mean, but I do carry myself with " an air of superiority". To me that means snobby but I dunno. I guess my point is how does a " superhot"girl give a fun sexy impression right off the bat without looking like she is clearly hustling? I usually reserve the overly sexual hustle for once Im already in the VIP and Im getting him to buy multiple hours. Maybe I would do better if I did this straightaway.

    I just remebered something my mom used to tell me- pretty girls have to ALWAYS be smiling. If your plain or unattractive and not smiling people rarely notice or just assume your having a bad day. If your pretty and not smiling it's because you're a stuck-up bitch who thinks she's better than everyone else.

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    Fat black girl? Would it make a difference in banking shock if it were a fat white girl?!

    The last club that I worked at I heard "you are too hot. you won't go home with me. she will." a lot. This isn't true all the time, but I am pretty good at sales when I am in my stripper zone. That is when I would have to resort to bullshit and pretend like I wanted their old cock.

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    I feel like every girl has something special that guys like about them. I see girls that are wayy prettier than me( super skinny, cute faces, long legs) and I'll be sitting with a group of guys who are talking to me thinking, "why arent they calling 'her' over? She's gorgeous!" And usually I'll have customers who tell me what they like about me, and i get the responses of " your smile, or you have an innocent look, or I love that your a blonde" So i almost feel like the single characteristics that guys absolutely love(which may be on a 6-7 looking girl) are stronger than a perfect package of say a "playboy model" looking girl. But to each his own i guess..
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    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by strippername View Post
    Fat black girl? Would it make a difference in banking shock if it were a fat white girl?!

    The last club that I worked at I heard "you are too hot. you won't go home with me. she will." a lot. This isn't true all the time, but I am pretty good at sales when I am in my stripper zone. That is when I would have to resort to bullshit and pretend like I wanted their old cock.
    Yes it does matter because in this club there were a lot of racists. Personally I think black women can pull of being fat, but white women can't, but having worked many clubs with racist owners they are more inclined to hire a sloppy white girl which is wrong.

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    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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