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    Man, am I tired of groups of people coming in to just drink cheap beer and stand around. Last nite without my regular I prolly would have only made about 50 on a Friday night! Even with him I didnt make that much more. The clubs around here are more like neighborhood bars that happen to have a runway. Its nothing new to me-- its where I have danced most of my life but I really wanted to say that its so ridiculous when all people are doing is sitting around bad mouthing u and not tipping. Tonite I am going to my home bar at least where at the moment things r going nicely. Maybe not money-wise but its alot better experience for me usually.

    I just dont feel like even wearing a costume when people arent tipping..Alot of times I will leave my coverup on bc really I feel like with the lack of money I mys well be dancing up on the stage in my jeans. The bars I work at are mainly all stage dancing bars. Lap dances dont enter into the picture.( I prefer stage only dancing at this point) When people in large crowds rnt tipping I feel that they dont deserve to watch for free. I know this isnt anything new. Just wanted to vent and say its a bunch of horseshit.

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    It seems like no matter where you go, this happens sometimes. I swear .... I worked the most sad and frustrating Friday last time. I think it actually scared me from weekends in this place. It was just beyond ridiculous and some of the guys even seemed to have no shame . I mean it was bbaaaddd. I kept at it and at it and at it until I walked with something ..... but it was only about 30% of what I was hoping to make that night. It wasn't just me either. Not many dances going on. ;(

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    ^Agreed, I don't think it's a VA thing specifically, because guys do that at my club too. It's super annoying when they're just sitting there nursing a beer and not tipping or spending on dances because they're "just there for a beer" or "heading out soon" or whatever other myriad of excuses they have for thinking that the $5.50 they spent on their beer justifies them watching the stage for free. I wish clubs would institute a one dance minimum and customers have to buy a lap dance ticket or something when they walk in the door. There's a normal bar (read: not overpriced on drinks) RIGHT NEXT TO US - literally, the door is RIGHT NEXT to the door to get in to my club, so go there, you fuckers.

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    Agree totally....and its EVERYWHERE. I hate the guys that say they are "just here for a beer"...really? You trekked your ass through the main strip, where there are about 50 bars catering to every possible desire, and decided that you would come here. Where there just so happen to be naked girls wandering around and dancing on stage...what a coincidence!!!

    Its just like the people that go out to dinner, and try to save money left, right and centre and then don't tip the server. If you can't afford to go out and follow basic social conventions about tipping...DON"T GO OUT!!

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    Awww yup this happens sometimes and it is really what has made me hate weekends. A lot more of the hang out and drink crowd... We are also very female friendly and often get groups of women and couples as well. That can make it harder sometimes, too.

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    The bars around here are all extremely female friendly--couple friendly etc..And this hang out shit is common. There are no lapdances and I am not selling dances. At some of the clubs the really good bookings r very competitive and sadly I am not always able to get what I want anymore. I used to quit a bar if I didnt make over 100 a booking but now I cant afford that anymore. Part of it I believe is the fact that around here when people see that u rnt in ur early 20s anymore they stop tipping u. Its hard bc Ive technically been around this area for 15 years now..And when a really super hot girl who has been dancing for roughly a year comes in then she takes the business away from everyone. And def from me..these guys havent seen her like theyve seen me for years..I feel it sometimes and especially hate the nites when people stand around scrutinzing us for free. Its my problem but truthfully thats when I start to really feel old. When people r barely tipping and the last thing theyre going to d when they have very little to spend is to tip the older girl.(And by older in most peoples' terms around hereIm saying early 30s)

    I'll tell u guys what makes me kinda sad. Knowing that I may not get booked the way I feel I still should bc of my age now. I still can work a runway like very few at the bars where I work. I am in w the group of girls that know how to work it when the bar is busy(eSPEICALLY AT MY HOME BAR)..But bc Im older I feel its is putting me at a disadvantage when I am good w customers personable, etc.. It is a hard reality to accept when u r a woman who is aging in this business. And I know that some of these new girls r prolly using my age to their advantage when they bitch to management saying that they should have some of the best bookings. The new girls nowadays dont show much respect for the veterans like me. I know several years ago this wasnt the case. When Iwas younger I was in awe of the girls who were say 34/36--not my age yet who had several regs who followed them around. I felt like they "owned" the business bc of the time they put in over the years. They knew wtf they were doing and I had a certain amount of respect for them whether I told them that or not. Now these girls some of them--r just completely self absorbed bitches that dont care about working as a team at least somewhat and think its ALL ABOUT THEM. This is an awful mindset when u dont care about others around u....Its awful now and Im glad I didnt start dancing now. When some girls ask for u to help them in small inconvienent ways and u refuse to do anything for them bc of ur own selfish needs it just goes to show who u really r. I dont like many of these new girls Im sorry to say.

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    My club has become like this on Saturdays. I stopped weekends a long time ago and decided to try it out. I worked sat day of the previous week and did well so by shift change I was ready to leave, but had a couple whom I knew were good for a dance come on my last stage call. I clocked back in, sold them a 2-4-1, clocked back out and left. On my way out I loaned an out of town girl her house fee and told her if I wasn't too tipsy I'd come back up and get it. If I was leave it in the office. It was wall to wall, 1:30am, and I had to find 3 security dudes pointing in diff directions before I found her. Last one let me look at the dance board and 11 girls had zero dances at 1:30am with an overpacked house. This friday nite I did one dance and lucked up with a "I'll pay you for merchandise dance to sit so 9 girls won't dwanna dance me guy". If he hadn't given me that $40 my nite would have been even worse than it was.

    I'm back to days with 3-4 hour breaks then returning for a couple hours. At my club if you do your 6 hours you can leave and return and still back $10 stayover fee. Its getting ridiculous because I moved here because of this job after 8 months of tracking my earnings religiously. Of course everything dropped after I moved here. I think its partly me and partly because I'm no longer blonde. I'm working on fixing both of those things. How the hell do I make little over a $100 on fri nite and routinely pull $300+ on day. I don't have any day regulars. Just a few day recognizers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by So Fine Divyne View Post
    My club has become like this on Saturdays. I stopped weekends a long time ago and decided to try it out. I worked sat day of the previous week and did well so by shift change I was ready to leave, but had a couple whom I knew were good for a dance come on my last stage call. I clocked back in, sold them a 2-4-1, clocked back out and left. On my way out I loaned an out of town girl her house fee and told her if I wasn't too tipsy I'd come back up and get it. If I was leave it in the office. It was wall to wall, 1:30am, and I had to find 3 security dudes pointing in diff directions before I found her. Last one let me look at the dance board and 11 girls had zero dances at 1:30am with an overpacked house. This friday nite I did one dance and lucked up with a "I'll pay you for merchandise dance to sit so 9 girls won't dwanna dance me guy". If he hadn't given me that $40 my nite would have been even worse than it was.

    I'm back to days with 3-4 hour breaks then returning for a couple hours. At my club if you do your 6 hours you can leave and return and still back $10 stayover fee. Its getting ridiculous because I moved here because of this job after 8 months of tracking my earnings religiously. Of course everything dropped after I moved here. I think its partly me and partly because I'm no longer blonde. I'm working on fixing both of those things. How the hell do I make little over a $100 on fri nite and routinely pull $300+ on day. I don't have any day regulars. Just a few day recognizers.

    Prolly bc onthe overpacked nites when we logically speaking think --Hey more people=more money its sadly not the case. More people feel its ok to just come in and watch which is bs. During the day there may be less girls too at ur club..But Im not sure..More girls naturally equals less money, even if there are alot of people in the bar. The crowds r misleading on the weekends for the most part.

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    Ps Yea I hate that I have to remain light blonde just to make the money I am making..When I went darker too many people including managemnet complained..Sadly I cant do that again.

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    eh. in january, i wasn't able to make over 100 on a single saturday.

    full nude, full contact, full liquor.

    this friday i only managed one lapdance, about 30 in stage tips (went up twice), and another 50 in tips from guys who talked to me or just handed me money while i was walking around.

    but i know it's not me. it's not even the economy. it's where i am, and the fact that many other girls i work with give 2-4-1s all night every night and/or do extras. i know you've got some reason that you've got to live there, but you really need to try travelling someplace better, if only for a week or so. i'm about to. i don't expect to bank, but i do know i'll probably do better out of town than i can if i stay.
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