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    Default Other girls get my dances!

    I just started working so I don't expect to be amazing at closing private dances, but it seems like every day, I end up losing a bunch of dances to other girls. I ask a guy if he wants a private dance and he says "in a little bit." I say "ok, just let me know" and if he doesn't want it in the next few songs, I say "Just let me know when you want that dance" and move on to someone else for a little while. 15 minutes later, another girl that went up to the previous customer right after I left is suddenly the one getting the dance! I understand that I'm not going to be every guy's type, but if they don't want a dance from me why not just say "no thanks"? I feel like I'm losing the dances because they have to warm up to the idea of spending that kind of money, but when that moment comes, I'm no longer the one sitting with them because they said "Later" and don't know how to say "I'm getting a dance from another girl" when someone else sits with them. I don't want to waste an hour of my time sitting with one guy, but this is really frustrating me!

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    Default Re: Other girls get my dances!

    It can be incredibly frustrating when you have spent time on a guy, and then see another girl get a dance from him as soon as you leave. There will always be those times when you are just not his type, but those are comparatively rare. There are a few more common situations:

    - Are you jumping on them at the wrong time? Especially if the club is decently busy, choose your target carefully - don't just barrel up to the first guy that you see sitting without a girl. Unless it's dead, I don't tend to approach a guy until he's had 5-10 mins to sit down, get a drink, etc. This works against you in certain clubs or on slow nights, but in general, give them a minute. Pay attention to their drink - if they have just ordered one and are waiting for it to get there, they aren't going to go for a dance till the waitress gets back. If a stage show is just starting, and they are intently watching the stage, they aren't going to go till the show is done. Are they near the end of a drink, the show is just ending, and they are looking around? Strike, baby, strike!!

    Waaaaay more importantly - the customer says "I'll have a dance in a bit" and you say "ok, let me know". Whaaaaaaat?!? It can be hard to get that sales head on, but you need to get used to the idea of not taking "no,later,maybe" as answers. You shouldn't even really be asking questions that allow the custy to say "later". Or if they do, find lines that will allow you to change "maybe" into "right now". One of my favorites is to say "why would you put off a good thing?" or "whats going to happen in ten minutes that will make you more ready to see me naked and writhing all over you?" push, push, push!! Or make a deal with them "I will give you ten minutes, and thats as long as I can wait to get naked for you! So I'm coming back in ten minutes!" then in 10 mins, you go back and say "look how good I am at doing what I'm told! I'm back now, so lets go!". Make them think you have a "date", make them feel obligated to you...

    There is so much awesome information in hustle hut on how to close - I cannot recommend reading it enough!!

    Finally (sorry for the loooooong post!) don't be too hard on yourself! You have just started, you will get better as time goes by...and considering what you are doing right and what you are missing is the best way to do that!
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    Default Re: Other girls get my dances!

    i second manyroses.
    dont rely on the customer to put their drink down and say yes i think i want a dance right now. it rarely happens [unless hes a regular to the club or you]
    since theres all that expectation in the air like let me know when youre ready, how about now, okay, let me know kindof takes the chase and desire out of the situation. i believe men either want to be seduced and manipulated so theres an illusion to the fantasy you are selling or really keep them on their toes until they run out of answers and excuses and just go for a dance.

    with you sitting next to them quietly waiting for them to tell you theyre ready it doesnt satisfy any of their needs, especially if there are stage shows going on.

    i think other girls getting your dances is coz after you leave and the customer is still bored with no emotional buttons pressed, a girl waltzes up leans in and whispers something naughty in their ear whilst stroking their neck and the dude gets great excitement in his crotch area and the pumping of the andrenalin causes him to shoot up from his seat and take the girl for a dance NOW.

    well its not exactly scientifically correct, i guess what im trying to tell you is they need to stop thinking logically and start thinking with their penis.
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    Default Re: Other girls get my dances!

    It sounds like you need to be a little more aggressive. When you're talking to them be careful not to get in the 'friend zone', stay flirty and as anouk said, get them thinking with their penis!

    If you've been talking to a guy for more than 5 minutes don't ask them for dance, tell them they're coming for one! Good to do this if there's just been a joke or a sexual reference; laugh, stand up and take they're hand, give them a big smile and say "you're coming with me, now!" if they try to argue just keep smiling and say "yes! come on, I'm gonna have fun with you!" they won't say yes every time but I find if they don't go they're time wasters anyway.

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    Default Re: Other girls get my dances!

    I'm not sure if I would say anything to the extent of "why not"? I feel like this could be off putting.

    However, when you say "okay just let me know" you're giving him a way out if he is undecided, so of course if a girl is more persuasive she could swing him over to buying a dance from her.

    How do you close your sale? My favorite line right now is, "You're really fun to talk to" then rub their chest and whisper into their ear, "but I know you would love to get dance from me in the back".

    If he still says no, try "that's too bad because I am hot and worked up right now!", or "aww too bad, my shift is over soon and this might be your last chance to get a dance with a girl as sexy as me".
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    Default Re: Other girls get my dances!

    ^^^ I definitely second that you shouldn't be saying "why not?" - number one, it makes you sound kinda whiny, and number two, it follows through with the idea that they are turning you down....and that just confirms with them that they don't want you and are turning you down.

    Work on lines that put the onus on buying NOW - like K Sweet says, "last chance" statements work really well sometimes, along with "but if you wait till later, someone might snap me up and I'll be gone for the rest of the night, and then you won't get a chance and you will be so SAD...(sad face) you wouldn't want THAT to happen!! So we better go right now...and if I'm still around later, you can just get TWO!"

    I realized as well that you might be making them feel like you don't really care if they go for a dance. Guys love to feel special - like they are different from all the other guys, that you really want to take THEM because they are so hot/interesting/generally better. By saying "sure, let me know" it sounds like you are just after a dance, not a dance from THEM. Making them feel like you are totally into them personally is huge!
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