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    I want something fast so I can just have a degree to feel secure about and work right away.
    In this economy, and especially in a high unemployment rate state, there are tens of thousands of unemployed / underemployed people out there who have the same degree that you will PLUS related job experience. Unfortunately, these days, the old axiom that obtaining a degree will translate into a well paying job right after graduation has gone the way of another old axiom that houses will always go up in value. In order to have any reasonable assurance of 'hirability' after graduation, it's now necessary to concentrate on degrees that will be in high demand in the future ... which typically involve math, science, or particular trade specialties.

    Lots of discussion on this topic in Dollar Den.

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    the richest guys at the SC tend to be business owners. apparently these guys run a recruitment agency and make over $300k / year and havent gone to school for it or anything. i would also suggest lots of work experience and interning in the industry you want to go to and networking.
    i know a lot of people with degrees who cant get jobs or have shit ones and waiting for their big break.
    just think of the uni degree like a penis. its not what you got but how you use it.
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    A better place to start would be what interests you and what you like doing. If you enjoy something, you're much more likely to be able to get through any degree requirements it may have (despite your ADHD) and much more likely to be willing to put up with the hassles that are inevitable with any type of job once you're done.

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    I hope this doesn't come as chauvinistic but being a dancer my guess is that you are quite attractive and that can can be a very valuable asset in some fields, the most obvious is the sales field. I fully acknowledge that someones appearance should not affect how well they can sell a product or service, close a deal or negotiate better terms but the fact of the matter is it does affect them quite a bit. One of my clients was one of the largest realtor offices in Louisville. The best realtors were almost always women and all of those women were very attractive with outgoing personalities who could communicate with people well. Not saying you should become a realtor in this market, just pointing this out. Another example is a fundraiser I am working on which will be at a hotel conference room. All but one of the marketing representatives I worked with at each hotels we were considering was a woman and all were attractive.

    If you have an outgoing personality to go with your appearance and you can think on your feet while talking with someone, sales may be a lucrative field for you.

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    Nursing is always in demand and many nursing degrees are very short, 1, 2 years. You could probably apply some of the credits you already have towards them. I'm in the IT field and most web designers and programmers are self taught. I am.

    As a dancer you're probably good at sales and motivation. Perhaps you could -as posters have mentioned above- go into sales or become a speaker.

    It took me 8 years to get my 4 year degree and when I got out all the work in my field had dried up so I totally feel your pain! Just know that if you do decide to stick it out there are others like you who went through it agonizingly slowly as well. Taking summer and winter break classes can help speed you along and sometimes you can test out of things. Talk to your advisor. Mine suggested those things, which kept me from spending 10 years in school, cut it down to 8. Still a long time, but better than a decade!
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    There are several degrees you can get in less than a year like Paralegal, pharmacy tech, administrative assistant, etc. Check your local college courses online. It's always good to have a backup plan, I have several. I also have friends that are making $35,000 to $45,000 a year and didn't attend a day in college. My friend used to be a sales associate at a high end clothing store and now she is a manager there making great money.

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    I would just bank as much as you can at the club & take school slow but finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    There was a group of 8 or more people at a club I worked at back in December. I was entertaining the pants off this group, kept them laughing hard, challenging them to drinking round after round, and they kept asking management for me to come back to their table after I finally left that table. I got offered a job by a marketing manager of a large law firm that was with that group of people. He said that his job involved him taking lawyers clients (the people in that group) out to places such as angels games, strip clubs, etc., and making sure they have a good time. He also said I could be working alongside him making sure everyone was having a good time, keeping my appearance up, and people were getting their drinks down. He said I'd make $11,000 weekly and I could meet the lawyers too. He gave me his card but I never called him since I felt like the $11,000 was too good to be true. Everyone I've told this story to has said that he was paying that much because they were paying me to be an escort and extras were expected. He really didn't give off that vibe of expecting me to do that because there were 2 girls in the group that are clients as well. What do you guys think? Does this sound right? Should I contact him still? Is it too late to call or email him since it was in December when he gave me his card?
    That amount of money does seem a bit too good to be true and I agree with you that I was wondering if he is looking at you be a play toy for clients also but I guess calling him couldn't hurt. If he asks you why you are just now calling him back you could say you misplaced the card and just recently found it.

    If you do call him back ask for details of your position. His answers may give you a clue to what he sees you doing for the firm. You could ask him if you are only to be at these social events or will the job also include you coming into the office, attending client marketing meetings, etc.. If you are to do more than just show up for the social events, it would seem that this would be a legitimate job, not you being an escort. If you are to only show up for these social events that doesn't necessarily mean it is an escort job, but it is still possible. If you are only supposed to be at the social events, maybe ask him how you will get paid. If you get paid by check for each event and at the end of the year you get a W-2 or a 1099 for tax purposes, that would make me believe the job was probably legit. If he says you get paid in cash, warning bells should be going off.

    Another thing that would work out in your favor would be to get him back in the club. In the club you would be in an environment you are comfortable with and would help you in talking about the job. Also in the club he will be reminded of what he loved so much about you and that will be in your favor.

    Like I said, no harm in giving him a call. A friend of mine does work like this for a marketing agency where she gets contracted to company events. She got the job because she is beautiful, outgoing and is just fun to be around. So who knows what it could turn out for you. If you decide to give him a call let us know how it went.

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    I know of three but you have to have experience to do them: dog groomer, dog show judge, and figure skating coach. (I show Pugs and Am Staffs in obedience, rally and agility.) I actually have a friend who is working his way up the corporate ladder of Arby's. He makes good money as a district manager and he's only 31. You could always try management of fast food joints and work your way up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    There was a group of 8 or more people at a club I worked at back in December. I was entertaining the pants off this group, kept them laughing hard, challenging them to drinking round after round, and they kept asking management for me to come back to their table after I finally left that table. I got offered a job by a marketing manager of a large law firm that was with that group of people. He said that his job involved him taking lawyers clients (the people in that group) out to places such as angels games, strip clubs, etc., and making sure they have a good time. He also said I could be working alongside him making sure everyone was having a good time, keeping my appearance up, and people were getting their drinks down. He said I'd make $11,000 weekly and I could meet the lawyers too. He gave me his card but I never called him since I felt like the $11,000 was too good to be true. Everyone I've told this story to has said that he was paying that much because they were paying me to be an escort and extras were expected. He really didn't give off that vibe of expecting me to do that because there were 2 girls in the group that are clients as well. What do you guys think? Does this sound right? Should I contact him still? Is it too late to call or email him since it was in December when he gave me his card?

    there is no way this is not excorting. Most lawyers don't even make that much. It's over $500k/year. Shit, VPs of companies don't make that much.

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    Finish school. Itll take longer, but who cares? You wouldnt want to skip 2-4 years and go back cause then itll take EVEN LONGER.

    I know how you feel, I messed up my first year badly in my program (its 3-4 years) and the feeling that I have that long to go, is cause a pain, but i know when I do ill have something on my back.

    I strongly wouldnt suggest starting your own business in this ecnomy, most businesses fail, and anyone can start one up.. waste of time and money if you have no skills or network. Going into trades and lower min wage jobs are higher in comp. than other jobs as many people are looking into these and are harder to get hired. I wouldnt take any offer from a customer, at all.. their cues are usually leaning into sex and 11k a week is unrealistic for that job or any to work for someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Martini View Post
    Start your own business doing something you are passionate about. With your stripping sales/marketing knowledge you have an extra boost above the competition.
    I agree - think entrepeneur/self-employment. You can get a job working for someone else right now, but your goal should be entrepeneur/self-employment. So, pick the job that gives you the training and knowledge to start your own business down the road.

    For example, a hair stylist might not be a glamorous job, but if you do it to learn about the business and open your own studio in a few years, it will be well worth it. I've met hair styling studio owners who are very wealthy, and none of them had college degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    There was a group of 8 or more people at a club I worked at back in December. I was entertaining the pants off this group, kept them laughing hard, challenging them to drinking round after round, and they kept asking management for me to come back to their table after I finally left that table. I got offered a job by a marketing manager of a large law firm that was with that group of people. He said that his job involved him taking lawyers clients (the people in that group) out to places such as angels games, strip clubs, etc., and making sure they have a good time. He also said I could be working alongside him making sure everyone was having a good time, keeping my appearance up, and people were getting their drinks down. He said I'd make $11,000 weekly and I could meet the lawyers too. He gave me his card but I never called him since I felt like the $11,000 was too good to be true. Everyone I've told this story to has said that he was paying that much because they were paying me to be an escort and extras were expected. He really didn't give off that vibe of expecting me to do that because there were 2 girls in the group that are clients as well. What do you guys think? Does this sound right? Should I contact him still? Is it too late to call or email him since it was in December when he gave me his card?
    It sounds too good to be true, but hard to say for sure... What made you a big hit with these guys (beside your looks)?

    Now if these guys represent $5 million or more of law firm revenues, then $11,000 week to keep them happy (even without escorting) isn't unusual. Also, getting involved in prostitution is a BIG risk for a law firm to take.

    Did he mean $11,000 week every week of the year or just once in a while. Did he mean $11,000 week just for your company, or for you and some friends you bring along?

    It might be worth checking out - but, be very careful.
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    I'm in the SAME boat as you. I decided about a month or so ago that I just can't do college. I don't even want a degree anymore. I can't keep up with my classes. it feels like it's taking FOREVER.

    so instead I'm gonna drop out and get a massage therapy certificate. there are schools that'll do it in less than a year (sometimes even less than 6 months) and when I'm done I'm gonna focus on starting up my own massage business and if I can't make my own business right away I can just work for someone else until I make enough to rent a small office and just go from there lol :]

    and if worse comes to worst I can do topless massages at the strip club. I've seen it done in clubs before. I can charge a dollar a minute or 5 dollars a song or something like that.

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    College isn't for everyone (even though it really does pay off if you can do it).

    Have you considered going to a tech school? It'd be a highly practical option that would lead you into a real job (as opposed to a liberal arts degree or similar).

    You could even just do it online--online classes usually go at your pace and are also respected (depending on whether the school is accredited).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Did he mean $11,000 week every week of the year or just once in a while. Did he mean $11,000 week just for your company, or for you and some friends you bring along?

    It might be worth checking out - but, be very careful.
    My assumption was the $11,000 per event an that the 11k was an exaggeration also. Again, I just base this upon the friend of mine who works events. She makes money in large chunks rather than paycheck to paycheck.

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    if you live near LA you could open up a dog grooming/dog daycare/dog high fashion boutique and watch your millions climb...
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    Depends what your degree is in. If it's in liberal arts, you're probably wasting your time and your money. Switch to something more marketable, perhaps Computer Science.

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    ^ I just got a job that I couldn't have gotten without my college degree, and I happen to be a English lit major.

    It's always important to supplement any degree with internships / volunteering / job experience.

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    What job is that Charlie? If you care to share provided it is not too personal a question.

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    ^ Quality Assurance Specialist.

    It kind of sounds like a bullshit job title, but it sure does pay well!

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    Quality assurance does not sound bullshit at all. I have to say it is one of the most important aspect of any production line. And the good thing is, pretty much every industry needs a Quality Assurance Specialist. Congratulations!

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    Congratulations Charlie61. I'm an English lit major too. How were you able to land that job? Do you still strip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ^ I just got a job that I couldn't have gotten without my college degree, and I happen to be a English lit major.
    But, if you elected English Lit as a major, I'm sure you have a passion for literature. So, that education was its own reward. Good education has its own intangible value, apart for how it translates into $ in the work place.

    Maybe you'll write a book one day?

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