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    Default Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap dancers

    U prolly already know this but here's scientific evidence:

    To see whether estrus was really “lost” during human evolution (as researchers often claim), we examined ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by professional lap dancers working in gentlemen's clubs. Eighteen dancers recorded their menstrual periods, work shifts, and tip earnings for 60 days on a study web site. A mixed-model analysis of 296 work shifts (representing about 5300 lap dances) showed an interaction between cycle phase and hormonal contraception use. Normally cycling participants earned about US$335 per 5-h shift during estrus, US$260 per shift during the luteal phase, and US$185 per shift during menstruation. By contrast, participants using contraceptive pills showed no estrous earnings peak. These results constitute the first direct economic evidence for the existence and importance of estrus in contemporary human females, in a real-world work setting. These results have clear implications for human evolution, sexuality, and economics.

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    The New York Times had another story about this today:

    Each of the young men thought she was simply a fellow student at Florida State University participating in the experiment, which ostensibly consisted of her and the man assembling a puzzle of Lego blocks. But the real experiment came later, when each man rated her attractiveness. Previous research had shown that a woman at the fertile stage of her menstrual cycle seems more attractive, and that same effect was observed here — but only when this woman was rated by a man who wasn’t already involved with someone else.

    The other guys, the ones in romantic relationships, rated her as significantly less attractive when she was at the peak stage of fertility, presumably because at some level they sensed she then posed the greatest threat to their long-term relationships. To avoid being enticed to stray, they apparently told themselves she wasn’t all that hot anyway.

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    That NY Times article is really interesting! I'd heard about the menstrual cycle/stripper study before, but it looks like they've done a lot more research. I really liked this part:

    The men and women in the experiment, after being primed with quick flashes of words like “lust” and “kiss,” were shown a series of photographs and other images. The single men and women in the study couldn’t help staring at photographs of good-looking people of the opposite sex — their gaze would linger on these hot prospects even when they were supposed to be looking at a new image popping up elsewhere on the screen.

    But the people who were already in relationships reacted differently. They looked away more quickly from the attractive faces. The subliminal priming with words related to sex apparently activated some unconscious protective mechanism: Tempt me not! I see nothing! I see nothing!

    This is good news for fans of fidelity, but there’s one caveat from a subsequent study by Dr. Maner along with C. Nathan DeWall of the University of Kentucky and others. This time, the researchers subtly made it difficult to pay attention to the attractive faces. Both men and women responded by trying harder to look at the forbidden fruit. Afterward, they expressed less satisfaction with their partners and more interest in infidelity.

    The lesson here seems to be that too much “mate-guarding” can get in the way of “relationship maintenance.”

    “We shouldn’t want our partner to be looking at lots of other people, because that’s bad for the relationship,” Dr. Maner said. “At the same time, preventing them from looking doesn’t help either, and can backfire.” Left to their own devices, conscious or unconscious, they might just manage to restrain themselves.
    Most people seem to understand this (especially strippers!) but it does affect your relationship badly when you try to keep your SO on a tight leash. We're always going to want to look at hot people outside of our relationship, so we might as well just embrace it, and then come home to our SO at the end of the day. Having that kind of trust can be a really good thing.

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    Default Re: Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap dancers

    I can attest to this being true, VERY true. My cycles affect work alot. My moods are a big factor in that, though.

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    yeah, i read that the other day. i'm on bc now, but in the past i observed that my best nights were always when i had my period. my worst nights were around ovulation. like back house fee bad. getting zero dances, but getting propositioned or asked on dates. all night long. even on nights that were otherwise good, or even amazing, for the other girls. ovulating seemed to scream out to the customers: i'm desperate for cock, just let me know you've got one and i'll beg you to let me ride it.
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    I thought your best nights were suppose to be around ovulation and worst during and right after your period? (according to this article)

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    ^ well, to be fair, i usually struggled right before my period, but that was more because of pms making me short tempered (more than usual, lol).

    i think it might depend a lot on the girls themselves and probably also what the business is like in your area. or, for that matter, era. the supposed data that started all this was from back when the industry as a whole was a lot cleaner, when you probably weren't going to get much more than a lapdance, because not much more was available.

    i live in an area where there are a lot of extras itc, a lot of otc, and a lot of cheap streetwalkers. you can't let guys think you're interested or available, because then they'll just assume you'll fuck them for free, instead of for money, which they'll often assume is available.

    in an area where dances are dances, and extras girls get fired, and there isn't a huge sex trafficking industry, i probably would do better when i'm ovulating.

    for now, i can say that i've done a lot better on bc, at least on a more consistent basis, than i did before i started taking it. which is supposedly also not what should be happening, according to studies of dubious validity.
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    I've always wondered about this, but the only REAL impact that I can see on my earnings is my mood! I've found this with everything - sporting events, time of year, time of month (as in, have custys just been paid or is rent coming due?), was my day job busy, was a I wearing a new outfit, how many girls are on etc etc. The ONLY thing that consistently affects my earnings is my mental state. Of course, my cycle probably affects my mood, so I can see that being connected...

    I just read over what I wrote, and had a flash of inspiration...how AWESOME is it to know that it is totally up to me what I earn? Its all in my mind, and if I can just take control of my mental attitude, then I should always be doing well...empowering moment!! lol
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    Default Re: Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by she sells sanctuary View Post
    yeah, i read that the other day. i'm on bc now, but in the past i observed that my best nights were always when i had my period. my worst nights were around ovulation. like back house fee bad. getting zero dances, but getting propositioned or asked on dates. all night long. even on nights that were otherwise good, or even amazing, for the other girls. ovulating seemed to scream out to the customers: i'm desperate for cock, just let me know you've got one and i'll beg you to let me ride it.
    So how has BC affected your earnings? Reason I ask is because I want to get on BC.

    I make the most money when I'm on my period and when I'm ovulating. Those two periods of time is also when I happen to be the most horniest, so it makes sense why I would make more money dur. those times. Some women aren't horny dur. their period so I guess thats why they dont make more.

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    Default Re: Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap dancers

    ^ well i'm most horny when i ovulate, and not very horny during my period.

    on the pill, i haven't had really big nights, but my money is more consistent. and when i average it out, it has been higher.
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    Default Re: Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap dancers

    I find this so fascinating... and it definitely is true for me. When I'm ovulating, I am super horny which I think makes me more of a...tigress. I can feel myself on the prowl, and that is definitely a lucrative state of being for a stripper. It makes me more playful and flirty, without having to put on my stripper act.

    Buuuut, about two to three days before my period, my PMDD kicks in and I become a psycho. For real. SO....its a balance

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    Default Re: Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap dancers

    I heard this before so I have the idea in my head when I finish my period that I'm gonna start making big bucks. Its never such a big difference though. I d experience a dip when I'm PMSing though, cause I have no patience for crappy customers.

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