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    I'm not sure if it's due to the payout changes (which makes me leary since I was setting it between 40% and 45% before), but I'm actually doing better on Cams lately. More than Streamate, and I've been doing Streamate ever since I started camming. (But then Streamate has been terrible for me lately, so it's not hard to beat terrible.) I'm upping my rate in increments to see what the price tolerance is though.
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    The new payout change will be an interesting adjustment. I remember when I started on cams at 45% then it dropped to 30% ish now this teir payout system based on customer spending.

    I am sure they are getting a flood of questions.
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    Is it actually 30%? When I was on two years ago, they claimed it was 40% but it was actually 29% with "marketing" fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitcatt View Post
    Is it actually 30%? When I was on two years ago, they claimed it was 40% but it was actually 29% with "marketing" fees.
    It's 30% but now with tier system if your gross sales is under $5000 then your earning 32%

    They will pretty much keep this new system until they come up with a new one or they get enough complaints and make adjustments on it. they said they ran a beta group for it so i guess based on those models they decided everyone should have the same teir system. wish I knew which models where in the beta group so we could have actual stats of how it all works out.
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    ah so gross not net? that seems more reasonable. I assumed net sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    ...if your gross sales is under $5000 then your earning 32%

    At my current rate, I figure it would take me about 15-20 days to reach tier 2, so this tier payment system will end up being useless for me because I will never reach tier 2 before the pay period is up.
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    I was in the beta group it was waaaaaaay better.. but I guess that to many models were making more than 30% you only needed $500 gross at 30% and then you were making 40% I believe til you got $3500 or so .. I never made it past 40% the whole time but I also didn't work as much as I normally do but I was happy to be getting paid 40%.. now I do not stand a chance to get past 32% I know that much.. unless lightening strikes me.

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    It's 30% but now with tier system if your gross sales is under $5000 then your earning 32%

    They will pretty much keep this new system until they come up with a new one or they get enough complaints and make adjustments on it. they said they ran a beta group for it so i guess based on those models they decided everyone should have the same teir system. wish I knew which models where in the beta group so we could have actual stats of how it all works out.

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    Anyone else having tech issues there today? My sound wouldn't work at all. I contatcted the model live support and the moron on the other side is like...you need to contact tech support....I said I thought this was tech support and he's like "no this is model support" well isn't that the same thing....grrrrr. Fix my sound...also custies were complaining the shit has been fucked up on the site for over a week...I haven't been on since last Monday....kinda been neglecting cams.

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    Figures. I'm actually going to hit $500 in member spend in a pay period (I don't work this site very often because it's really slow for me) and it's the first pay period you have to earn $5000 to get to the 2nd tier.

    I guess I should just be happy I'm making money there. I usually take off the week before Christmas through New Years because it's so slow for me this time of year but my husband works in construction and we live in the Midwest which means he's not working. Which means I have to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous camgirl View Post
    I was in the beta group it was waaaaaaay better.. but I guess that to many models were making more than 30%
    When I worked LiveJasmin (before the gallery photo requirements and the admins literally going insane), it was easy to level up because the increments were 5% and leveled up at $100, $300, $650, $1500, $2500 model earning increments. Those correspond to $333, $905, $1780, $3669, $5669 member spends, which correspond to 30%, 35%, 40%, 45%, 50% payouts. You can see how quickly you can level up when you only need to earn $333 for member spend.

    For Cams? Let's see.

    $5000, $6000, $10,000 are the increments for member spend, which correspond to 32%, 50%, 60%. Cam's first level is close to LJ's highest level! What the fu...

    This payout system reminds me of KinkLive's payout before the sell out. They had a similar tier system. I never made tier 2 on there either, but that wasn't so bad since their lowest payout was 45%. I think these new Cams tiers are a joke. Cams obviously took no feedback from the models. I think the beta program was just a charade for models to feel like they're contributing so their concerns would be pacified.

    Oh, and this latest email "New Tiered Payout Comparison" that supposedly "clears things up" about the payout system is a little insulting to me. It assumes I used to set my percentage at 30%. 32% is an improvement on 30%, so that's great! But, I used to set my payouts to 40% and 45%. That's what I liked to set it at. Sure, I may have gotten less traffic, but I had the ability to choose, but this email makes it sound like my payout percentage is higher. 32% is lower than 40% or 45%.

    Despite my negative opinion about this, I'm actually not that bothered by lowering to 32%. I work Streamate and they are at 35%. I've accepted their payout so I can accept Cam's payout. And maybe I'll get more traffic. That's great!

    What bothers me is how far I have to go to level up to tier 2. It would require me to net $114 per day on Cams just to enjoy 50% payout on the 15th day. I have never even come close to $114/day on Cams, including under this new payout structure. And, even if I did level up, I wouldn't benefit very much given I'd only have 1 or 2 days to use it. Tell me again why I should abandon my more profitable sites to put in a full-time effort on Cams?

    The purpose of these tiered systems is to incentivize models and earn loyalty, so that models spend more time on the site instead of flitting around between sites. The problem with a $5000 first tier is only the top models are going to be incentivized, because they know they can easily hit the goal pretty early on in the pay period. But what about the rest of us? If we do level up, it'll be toward the end of the pay period. I think this new system will do the opposite of what Cams wants. It will decentivize a lot of us, but maybe that's their intended result the entire time. Incentivize their darlings, but decentivize the rest of us.

    Dear Mr Hamilton (Cams model manager): You want us to be loyal to your site? How about make the first tier achievable to most of us?
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    I hope the ones who have suggestions for cams on how they should have their teir system contact them.

    Whatever we post on here about a cam site that we want changed never really gets seen by the sites. Some might read them but to ensure they get our message you have to contact them directly.
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    Hey has anyone else noticed there earnings for right between the payment change time missing? Like around 11-2:30am everything I made then is not showing up. I'm wait to hear back from support now....

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    Anyone got their direct deposit in the bank yet?

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    Nope.. I wish!

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    Anyone got their direct deposit in the bank yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busygirl View Post
    Anyone got their direct deposit in the bank yet?
    Got it this morning. Weird, since I didn't know it could work on Saturday.
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    Hi girls, i wonder is anybody here from Russia who's broadcasting on Streamray/Cams?

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    Payout addition
    12/19/2015
    Hello models,

    This morning I was alerted that there was a discrepancy in the payout for some models. We deeply apologize for this and will be re-running the numbers on Monday and paying out an addition for the corrected stream amounts.

    We hope that this hasn't caused too much of an inconvenience and will get this taken care of on Monday for you.

    Please let us know if you have any other questions in the meantime.

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    Anyone see there funds come back yet?

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    I'll go backtrack through the last pay period and see if they fixed that one as well.

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    So lately cams.com has become my main site since Streamate slowed down too much for me. I've been doing surprisingly well on it. But lately I've been seeing a user come in as "Guest" in brownish/gray lettering. no [email protected] and they don't show up on the left hand site where all my users are listed. I've also muted all guests from chatting so there's no way a guest of any kind could do that. But this person showed up and started saying rude things to me, so I right clicked and blocked him. Today he was back again. The same situation, no showing up of any kind. I promptly contacted support and all they said was "hmm, a lot of other models have reported the same issue. Don't know if it's a bug or what." The support is usually shitty, so I didn't expect much. But all they said was "hope they can fix the problem". Ugh, face palm. It really just freaks me out that these people are getting past everything and feels too weird to be a "bug". Maybe I'm just being paranoid but the "support" couldn't confirm that my account and was safe and shows weren't being recorded so it feels pretty shitty. Has anyone else been having this issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebonee View Post
    Anyone see there funds come back yet?
    They issued their correction finally at the end of this pay period, but the numbers still don't come close to adding up for our models' earnings. We'll continue to service existing accounts, but won't be processing new signups for that site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittieVenom View Post
    So lately cams.com has become my main site since Streamate slowed down too much for me. I've been doing surprisingly well on it. But lately I've been seeing a user come in as "Guest" in brownish/gray lettering. no [email protected] and they don't show up on the left hand site where all my users are listed. I've also muted all guests from chatting so there's no way a guest of any kind could do that. But this person showed up and started saying rude things to me, so I right clicked and blocked him. Today he was back again. The same situation, no showing up of any kind. I promptly contacted support and all they said was "hmm, a lot of other models have reported the same issue. Don't know if it's a bug or what." The support is usually shitty, so I didn't expect much. But all they said was "hope they can fix the problem". Ugh, face palm. It really just freaks me out that these people are getting past everything and feels too weird to be a "bug". Maybe I'm just being paranoid but the "support" couldn't confirm that my account and was safe and shows weren't being recorded so it feels pretty shitty. Has anyone else been having this issue?
    I get the same grey guest...lol weird I ignore have tried to kick him ..but he doesn't say anymore after the first comment.. Also I still get members with no money in my nude chats and party chats...last time it happened I had the main guy leave n come back then the guy wasn't back
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    Ugh^. I'm stayin' off cams then..& yea I put down that I don't allow no $ ppl & they show up anyway. F all that.


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    They shorted me on my last check by $24. I looked at my previous pay period and there were no chargebacks so I dunno why they did that. It really pissed me off and I haven't been on cams in about 3 weeks now.

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    Oh and I see they issued me a credit for $19. Now since I didn't work last pay period is that $19 gonna carry over to the next pay period or are they just gonna eat my money? I have been looking and couldn't find any info on it.

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