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    Default A scathing rant if you will.

    It is 4:45 am at the moment. I am one of those people who have trouble sleeping if I am royally pissed. I left my phone in the dressing room at work and anyone who would care is asleep anyway. So, I apologize in advance if this is long winded and whiny.

    I want to say that anyone on here who has worked with me will agree that I am a nice person. I try to be diplomatic even when I am dealing with assholes. They don't deserve diplomacy, but that is how I am. However, you cannot reason with some people. So a lot of times, I am wasting my time.

    With that said, do not mistake for a minute that I am weak and will take garbage from anyone. Maybe I won't be waiting for you in the parking lot after work. (I can't fight worth a damn if my life depended on it anyway. I am tiny and girly. Violence isn't my style either.) Maybe I won't cuss you out to high heaven.

    I sure as hell will not allow to be treated like crap. You will hear about it. I will be classy and civil about it when I do tell you. I won't forget that you are a bitch or a dick either. The next time you need a favor or something, I am probably not going to agree to it. I will be weary of you, and you have lost my trust.

    I am currently working out of town in a club that is dishonest about tip outs and taking dance percentages. Being in a position where I do not live here and they pay for my accomodations, puts me in tough spot. Maybe some people would stand their ground and not give a rat's ass where the chips fall... I am not willing to cause myself a lot of grief over 5 dollars here and there.

    It is the principle of the matter. Dances are 25. We get 20 and the club gets 5. You pay the club their portion after you are done giving the dance(s). Well, they arbitrarily decide that you were in there for 5 songs when you were really in there for 4.

    After saying something like, "Are you sure? I was pretty sure it was only 4." The manager glowers at you and insists it was five and that you need to pay up. I don't really want to a get in an argument that could lead up to a write up or some disciplinary action over something petty.

    I am not going to blow 500+ for a last minute ticket elsewhere. I already have my ticket booked on a specific date. So, if I got fired or something... That would be pretty bad. So, I pay the five. The five that SHOULD be mine.

    Then there is the issue of tipouts. On top of five dollars off of every dance, it is ten percent of your entire night's earnings. Yeah, you read that right. Yet on several occassions when I handed them ten percent, I got the following bullshit:

    "You should've made more than this. You should've made more on stage. This can't possibly be all you made. That would mean you didn't make but (insert dollar amount here) on stage. You need to hand over five more dollars."

    So really they want 15 percent. First off, they don't know what anyone makes on stage. They can claim they can go look at the camera's but that doesn't shit. Can the camera zoom in that close? I mean really?

    So the other night I was forced to tip out as if I had made $600 when I really only made $535. I actually threw in a couple extra bucks and gave them 55. I guess that wasn't enough. Apparently, the 5 dollars out of every dance and the alcohol sales are not enough either.

    There has been drama at the club over the last few weeks with other dancers. None of it having anything to do with me. For example, one of the girls was arrested from the hotel they put us up in. Ever since, the staff has been acting bitchy/uptight towards everyone. I don't particularly care for this either. The last time I was up here, everyone was really nice.

    The icing on the cake was tonight. I playfully slapped a customer as a joke. Remember, I am tiny and girly. My slap is like nothing. The customer flew off the handle at me. Called me a bitch however many times and told me to step the fuck off, etc. I was stunned. His friend was shocked as well.

    I get the bouncer and he ends up giving me a lecture. He didn't even want to hear what happened. I quote him as saying, "I don't give a shit." He tells me if I put my hands on anyone again I get fired. Really?!

    I explained myself regardless. He was all like, "You can't just let anything go can you? You had to tell me anyway!" Well yes. I would think I am allowed to give an explanation. Especially, if you are going to tell me what I did was a fireable offense.

    Girls are in the dressing room smoking weed. He is fully aware of this by the way. A few months ago two girls beat up another girl in the dressing room for mouthing off. Oh and one girl kicked another girl on stage three weeks ago.

    The last time I was up here, a girl got in trouble for leaving with a customer. She was also giving extras. Guess what? She was suspended, but then she was back. So what does someone have to do to get fired around here? I guess a discussion on whether your little hand can actually hurt someone and a demonstration going horribly wrong will do it.

    Yes, the customer and his friend were telling me I could kick someone's ass if I wanted to. I told them no and that I have hands like a small child. Then I asked, "would you like to see?" I slapped him and it didn't even make a noise. His friend laughed at how lame it was. He went fucking insane.

    I was even asking him, "Seriously, did that hurt?"

    "No! I don't give a fuck! Don't ever fucking put a hand on me again! I don't like bitches like you. You fucking bitch! Step the fuck back. You get away from me!" Blah blah blah blah blah.

    I get fired? Why wasn't HE kicked out? Speaking to me? Seriously? I must be dancing in the goddamned Twilight Zone. Smh. I honestly feel like if I acted like some of the crazier bitches that have worked here... They wouldn't seem to think they can walk all over me. At the same time, those crazy bitches have been fired.

    I think once my time is up, I will not be coming back to this place. They still owe me a reimbursement check from the last time I was up here too. If it wasn't for the money being decent... I would've gone home a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoAnnaBanana View Post
    It definitely sounds like you have to put up with quite a lot of bullshit that goes on at that club... but all that matters to me in a workplace is whether or not I'm safe there & if I'm making good enough money to justify staying at that particular club.

    Since you feel like you're being ripped off you have to look at what you're making in the big pciture... Are you okay with making $535 instead of $600? Is $535 enough for you to still live comfortably?

    Also, personally I would never lay a hand on a coworker, even if it's to make a point. Especially slapping anyone. So although the bouncer did make a big deal about it and screamed at you, it was sort of warranted. You knew that the staff there was argumentatitve yet you slapped him anyway...
    This wasn't staff. This was a customer. These were two guys who had bet that I could hit hard despite having hands like a little girl. I barely hit the guy and he lost his shit. I had no idea that the guy was going to be a big baby about it. His friend thought it was funny and was actually shocked by his reaction. He was trying to calm him down. Oh well... He was probably drunk and emotionally imbalanced. I don't know.

    I wouldn't hit a coworker either. If it were another dancer, I'd most definitely get my ass kicked. The girls up here are rough like that. If it were management/bar staff, I most definitely would've been fired I am sure. Infact, the aforementioned girl who was arrested three weeks ago slapped our manager across the face among other things. I do not support such behavior either. You never smack your boss.

    $535 in a night is pretty good considering how some nights the best you can do is like between $200-$300. I work six nights a week, so I am making decent money that I can live off of comfortably.

    You make a good point. As long as the money is decent and there is safety, ofcourse it is worth staying there. However, I feel like they are being greedy and unfair at this point. So, I am probably not going to return to this club after my commitment is over. Atleast, not any time soon. I am definitely traveling to some other places instead.
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    Default Re: A scathing rant if you will.

    I went through the same I have X on my board, I have Y on my board and tip out fell between X and Y. I thought I had finally gotten past it. It seems petty but when its your money it matters and even at $5 mistakes with my money are not cool. I understand how you feel. It is so annoying having to deal with people in your pocket. I hate it! Just make it through your contract and know what not to do, piss anyone off or ever work there again!
    Thank Goodness I smartened up! The old me is dead and gone.

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    Yeah exactly. They do this because they know they can. Sometimes when you are traveling you are an easy target. They wouldn't do this to a veteran house girl or one of their favorites.

    Either way they have the upper hand. They are the only club in town with the exception of this other terrible hole in the wall. Noone wants to work there. Many girls quit and come back because they don't have a choice. Atleast I am not local and I can go somewhere else.

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    I see why you'd be angry at the ways they're ripping you off, $5 at a time. Yea it's only $5 but with all the times they do it, it really adds up!!

    The tipout bullshit reminds me of something similar when I worked as a waitress for tgi Fridays. Tips were miserable because the restuarant was located in the ghetto and during a recession...so most of the customers only went to use a ton of coupons, bullshit their way to a free meal (e.g., the "hair in my dish" line), and leave no tip. Well anyway here I was barely making equivalent of fed min wage with the lousy tips, and management had a huge workplace meeting where they scolded us for not reporting enough tips to taxes. I asked them what if my taxes were indeed less than 10% of my sales (which they expected us to consistently report) and they told me we had to do it, and would be written up if we didnt

    That was the last shift I let myself work there. I was a good waitress (management frequently told me this), had made much better tips elsewhere so I knew the prob wasnt me. So here I was, a good waitress making barely anything and then being shafted furthermore with paying more tax than I really made. Fuuuuuuuck that.

    For you, atleast you make decent money...unlike my situation at Fridays. But yea I wouldn't consider working there again. I heard that some of the strip clubs that have the best opps for earnings, tend to rip off their strippers nexus they know they CAN, cuz they know the girls won't be able to top those earnings anywhere else. It's fucked up but when you leave to go home, dont go back again or they'll think they can just keep talking to you like that

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    On and that bouncer that yelled at u, is a special kind of jerkoff. He says you won't "let things go" when you tried to explain, yet HE wouldn't let things go by yelling and bitching so much. What a biotch. I hope you leave that place soon.

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    Skylark, unfortunately clubs do this often and many of us have had this happen. I have been screwed over by dishonest clubs. As for hitting I wouldn't advise that unless it's a customer and you know the bouncer will look the other way. I once attacked a customer who was abusive to me but I knew the bouncer would have my back. Otherwise I'd never do that. Sounds like you were in the right, but clubs don't see it that way. Remember most of us can be replaced which sucks but they know it.


    Quote Originally Posted by kthnx View Post
    I see why you'd be angry at the ways they're ripping you off, $5 at a time. Yea it's only $5 but with all the times they do it, it really adds up!!

    The tipout bullshit reminds me of something similar when I worked as a waitress for tgi Fridays. Tips were miserable because the restuarant was located in the ghetto and during a recession...so most of the customers only went to use a ton of coupons, bullshit their way to a free meal (e.g., the "hair in my dish" line), and leave no tip. Well anyway here I was barely making equivalent of fed min wage with the lousy tips, and management had a huge workplace meeting where they scolded us for not reporting enough tips to taxes. I asked them what if my taxes were indeed less than 10% of my sales (which they expected us to consistently report) and they told me we had to do it, and would be written up if we didnt

    That was the last shift I let myself work there. I was a good waitress (management frequently told me this), had made much better tips elsewhere so I knew the prob wasnt me. So here I was, a good waitress making barely anything and then being shafted furthermore with paying more tax than I really made. Fuuuuuuuck that.

    For you, atleast you make decent money...unlike my situation at Fridays. But yea I wouldn't consider working there again. I heard that some of the strip clubs that have the best opps for earnings, tend to rip off their strippers nexus they know they CAN, cuz they know the girls won't be able to top those earnings anywhere else. It's fucked up but when you leave to go home, dont go back again or they'll think they can just keep talking to you like that
    This reminds me of a restaurant I waitressed at. During a break from dancing I got a job at a nightclub. However this nightclub tended to get a lower income clientele and younger so often people wouldn't tip. So anyway one night (this was a Saturday I believe) it was packed and I was busy. I made about $20 in tips. Yep $20 for 8 hours of waitressing. At the end of the night we had to give them 10% which came out to 2 bucks or so. I handed it over to them and they started complaining that I was lying, that I needed to hustle more (remember I was serving, this wasn't a strip club), and give up dinner if it's too busy (I didn't eat and still made this). Long story short they threatened me and I think I went home with $15 for 8 hours work. I ended up quitting the next day. The next day I went over to the strip club down the street that ironically had people come in trying to recruit customers and certain waitresses as dancers. I had waitressed for many years and know it wasn't my fault because I've always had compliments and always walked out with way more than minimum wage.

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    Well, things got worse. Please see Club Chat for my even more scathing review. Unless you want a bunch of petty bullshit, politics, and drama....then whatever.

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    It's unfortunate that the club is overcharging you... sorry you have to deal with that...
    but you should never hit a customer unless the customer has specifically stated that he would like you to do so.
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    [QUOTE=kellydancer]This reminds me of a restaurant I waitressed at. During a break from dancing I got a job at a nightclub. However this nightclub tended to get a lower income clientele and younger so often people wouldn't tip. So anyway one night (this was a Saturday I believe) it was packed and I was busy. I made about $20 in tips. Yep $20 for 8 hours of waitressing. At the end of the night we had to give them 10% which came out to 2 bucks or so. I handed it over to them and they started complaining that I was lying, that I needed to hustle more (remember I was serving, this wasn't a strip club), and give up dinner if it's too busy (I didn't eat and still made this). Long story short they threatened me and I think I went home with $15 for 8 hours work. I ended up quitting the next day. The next day I went over to the strip club down the street that ironically had people come in trying to recruit customers and certain waitresses as dancers. I had waitressed for many years and know it wasn't my fault because I've always had compliments and always walked out with way more than minimum wage.[\QUOTE]

    that really sux. Ghetto clientele is the worst. At Fridays, the management complained not because they felt the staff members receiving tipout (bussers, bartenders, etc) weren't receiving enough money (they weren't, by the way), but because they felt I wasn't "tipping" Uncle Sam enough.and this was at a time that my disdain for the government and their high taxes was at an ultimate high too, so the LAST thing I wanted was to waste even more money on a govt that was squandering our money on shit like Corp bailouts and welfare mooches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    It's unfortunate that the club is overcharging you... sorry you have to deal with that...
    but you should never hit a customer unless the customer has specifically stated that he would like you to do so.
    What is interesting is the guy had come back last night with the same friend. I didn't realize it was the same guy because half of these guys look about the same after a while. He was telling me that he wasn't mad about what happened but that NOONE ever touches him like EVER.

    I told him, "I don't think you understood what I was going for. My intent wasn't to hurt you or cause trouble. I was kidding around with you."

    He said, "No I know why you did it. That is fine. I don't care. I fight for a living. *points at his mma shirt* Any fighter would have hit you be glad I didn't. Now I'll buy you a shot, but I want an apology."

    Hahahahaha okay. Whatever. Yeah from now on I am not even going to kid with anyone anymore. You never know what kind of crazy they are. I told him that he owes me an apology for cussing me out and for threatening me with violence. Then he started to get mad again saying that I should give him an apology and that he won't apologize. His friend had to start calming him down.

    "Come on stop. She is a nice pretty girl. Why are you doing this?," says his friend while he continues to ramble on about how he respects women and he would never hit anyone. I told him he isn't respectful if he felt the need to call me a bitch however many times.

    I eventually got up and walked off. I don't know what his being involved with mma has to do with anything. If anything, he would see how my girly little smack was laughable and pathetic.

    I do admit that my smack was a bad idea. Not in my wildest dreams did I expect someone to react like that. Especially, when they admit that they know I wasn't trying to anger/hurt them. That just is wow to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kthnx View Post
    I see why you'd be angry at the ways they're ripping you off, $5 at a time. Yea it's only $5 but with all the times they do it, it really adds up!!

    The tipout bullshit reminds me of something similar when I worked as a waitress for tgi Fridays. Tips were miserable because the restuarant was located in the ghetto and during a recession...so most of the customers only went to use a ton of coupons, bullshit their way to a free meal (e.g., the "hair in my dish" line), and leave no tip. Well anyway here I was barely making equivalent of fed min wage with the lousy tips, and management had a huge workplace meeting where they scolded us for not reporting enough tips to taxes. I asked them what if my taxes were indeed less than 10% of my sales (which they expected us to consistently report) and they told me we had to do it, and would be written up if we didnt

    That was the last shift I let myself work there. I was a good waitress (management frequently told me this), had made much better tips elsewhere so I knew the prob wasnt me. So here I was, a good waitress making barely anything and then being shafted furthermore with paying more tax than I really made. Fuuuuuuuck that.

    For you, atleast you make decent money...unlike my situation at Fridays. But yea I wouldn't consider working there again. I heard that some of the strip clubs that have the best opps for earnings, tend to rip off their strippers nexus they know they CAN, cuz they know the girls won't be able to top those earnings anywhere else. It's fucked up but when you leave to go home, dont go back again or they'll think they can just keep talking to you like that
    I'm sorry that happened to you. I have quit waitressing jobs in the past due to tip related issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxSkylarxo View Post
    He said, "No I know why you did it. That is fine. I don't care. I fight for a living. *points at his mma shirt* Any fighter would have hit you be glad I didn't."
    Are you fucking kidding me? What a douchebag.
    Maybe he meant "Any fighter with clear mental issues like me would've hit you."
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