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    Exclamation Bitching Thread: bring your debates here

    I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not, but someone mentioned it in another thread.

    Instead of derailing threads with arguments and bitching about something or other, post it in this thread instead so we can keep all of the other threads on topic. So if an argument erupts and you simply CAN'T keep quiet about it, post it in here instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by lagirl View Post
    and not everyone considers stripping and masterbating for strange men on camera a convenient means to make a living... This isnt bible camp, its stripperweb. I would be shocked at the hypocracy of a sex worker being so adament against abortion
    I have nothing against abortion or people who choose to get them, but I chose not to do so in my own situation, for personal reasons. That is my right to do so. No one in a free society should be forced to get or not to get an abortion, or be forcibly sterilized like you suggested.

    you know who also had their kid unplanned? practically every mother of every criminal out there. thats great that you turned out so "wonderful" not every unplanned kid is so lucky. it seriously makes my blood boil to see poor people lugging around an army of kids. i would see it all the time when i used to take public transport. Having children should be a privilege, not a right.
    So you're saying that unplanned children turn into criminals? That's very silly. Yes it's sad to see poor people with a bunch of kids, however you have to keep in mind that

    1) A lot of poor people are uneducated and may not have proper understanding of safe sex.
    2) Birth control is expensive, and abortions are VERY expensive for a low-income person. A lot of people simply can't afford them.
    3) Condoms, the other alternative, are not always foolproof.

    and my god if i ever have a kid and she then has a kid out of wedlock and decides she "needs to" move in with me i would probably disown her. I'm very much of the belief that children should be cut off financially once they turn 18. when I'm 50 i shouldn't have to stress myself out and take on the burden of raising yet ANOTHER child who I DIDNT MAKE because my idiot kid decided she loved unprotected sex too much. I feel so bad for grandmothers that are basically forced to take care of their grand kids. they had no say in the manner, and its so incredibly selfish and disrespectful of the mother to just throw their responsibility out to their own mom who should be DONE with parenting.
    For the record, I was living on my own when I was pregnant, and I actually wanted it to stay that way. It was my mom that called me up, convinced me to hop on a plane and move back in with her temporarily. Doing so allowed me to deal with the birth and the first few months with a lot more help than I would have had otherwise, and I was able to save money and generally not stress out so much. So no, I didn't "force" her to deal with my own mistake, she actually wanted to help me out because, you know, she's my mom and she loves me and wants the best for me. Insane, I know.

    While I agree with you that people should be able to support themselves at 18, I must say that parenting does NOT end at 18. You don't just stop being a mom or dad once your kid turns 18 and you shouldn't disown them for making mistakes because EVERYONE makes mistakes at some point.

    You wouldn't know this since you don't have kids but daycare, especially for young infants, is EXTREMELY expensive and difficult for some people to manage, even married couples who make decent money. That is why one parent usually stays at home because the cost of daycare wouldn't make it "worth it" for them to even go to work.

    Also, being poor does not necessarily mean that the child will have a horrible life and that they'd be better off aborted. Growing up, my family was very poor and I didn't get to enjoy a lot of privileges that other kids did. I didn't have as many toys or videogames or clothes as other kids, and I didn't get to join clubs and do activities that I wanted because my family couldn't afford it. Guess what? I had a GREAT childhood anyways, because my family actually loved each other and there is more to life than living in a big house or driving a new car instead of an old beater. My son is loved dearly by many, many people and he's well taken care of. Oh but yeah you're right, he should have been aborted I guess.

    Okay everyone feel free to bitch all you want

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    My mother also asked me to come live with her temporarily while I was pregnant and a little while afterwards because I had moved to Tennessee and She missed me in Pa. I thought it was very kind and do things often to show my mom I appreciate her like taking her out to lunch and little stuff like that. I could never disown my daughter for getting pregnant or not being 100% financially stable by the day of her 18th birthday (Let's face it, who is??) My mom wasn't overjoyed when i told her I was pregnant but she wouldn't change it for anything in the world and loves to spend time with her granddaughter and doesn't mind taking care of her if I need an extra hand, because that's what family is for. I think it's hard for people who do not have kids to judge what they would do in a similar situation because they don't realize that kind of love you have for your child when he/she is born.

    Anyways I just wanted to say a few things because that 'conversation' hit home to me Smurfette.

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    Nevermind that the economy isn't allowing for even people who were absolutely ready to raise a family to do it alone.
    Lots of people are living at home. Nothing wrong with it- if you recall, depression era families stuck together. European families stick together.

    A lot of cultures have you live with your family until you marry. A lot of cultures have family stick together beyond that.

    Poverty doesn't make for criminals, ignorance does.

    And.. forced sterilization? SMH.

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    Oh my god, kill, destroy, arrrrg!

    Sorry sorry this made me sooo mad. Can't even comment right now. Be back later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lagirl View Post

    you know who also had their kid unplanned? practically every mother of every criminal out there. thats great that you turned out so "wonderful" not every unplanned kid is so lucky. it seriously makes my blood boil to see poor people lugging around an army of kids. i would see it all the time when i used to take public transport. Having children should be a privilege, not a right.
    This, I think is my favorite paragraph. It displays all the loveliness that is you.

    First of, I love how you put wonderful under quotation marks. It just MUST automatically make you better than me, doesn't it?
    And of course, criminals are all unplanned children...holy molly, lets call the authorities, that way we can nip that thing in the bud, they can just go to the house of every single mother and snag that lil criminal right from her lactating boob and imprison, or shoot to prevent all criminal.
    And finally...how it makes your blood boil to "see poor people lugging around an army of kids". Man, this one really opens up my eyes. Until you said it, I was unaware that parenting is a privilege of rich people... Now, through your grace, I see it...WHO on Earth would allow POOR people who use PUBLIC transportation (of all horrors) to have children? Now I see it...that's not a very wise decision...poor people with children in buses, turning criminals right there before our eyes... *gasp*

    You really changed my view of the world today. *content sigh*

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    I cant even...This is just really sad, prejudice, and disgusting. Im really just gonna touch on the surface of what I want to say because this lagirl person obviously has her mind made up, sadly. Unplanned, planned, adopted. All babies are born as a clean slate and grow up to make their own choices.

    Also, just because a baby is planned doesn't automatically make the parents any better. Lots of people have babies to "save" a marriage and end up resenting the kid when it doesn't work.


    Please for the love of gawd tell me she did not suggest this
    No one in a free society should be forced to get or not to get an abortion, or be forcibly sterilized like you suggested.

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    Sadly she did say it:

    Quote Originally Posted by lagirl View Post
    ok i know this is going to sound "so mean" but that sounds so trashy and irresponsible. To have a child when you're not ready for it.. in 2011 when we have sooo many options- from a million forms of birth control to abortion to abstinence. Why would anyone have a child they can't afford? That is so incredibly selfish and horrible to bring a child into this world you can't care for. That saddens and disgusts me and seriously makes me think that forced sterilization wouldn't be too bad of an idea.
    I'm curious to see what kind of government lagirl would like to have in her ideal world.

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    My vent :

    I come to stripperweb for motviation but latetly it has been doing the opposite. It seems like no one is getting steady income from the site they work ( bouncing from site to site to site to site to site.....). I think im doomed to working multiple sites just to make what I want. Are we fucking doomed?

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    Damn, CW, between the indy discouragement and this doomed business, I think you need to be reminded that you are a fucking master of cam.

    I think MFC is one of the few sites you can use as your only income source.
    I know if I put ALL of my time in one basket, those fuckers would probably tire of me. I like roaming around and only being on one site one day of the week. It lets these guys know that if they want to see me, they're going to have to get it while it's hot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CamWhore View Post
    My vent :

    I come to stripperweb for motviation but latetly it has been doing the opposite. It seems like no one is getting steady income from the site they work ( bouncing from site to site to site to site to site.....). I think im doomed to working multiple sites just to make what I want. Are we fucking doomed?
    No we are not doomed, i hope not
    I have been working this whole camming business HARD and I can tell by following a lot of your posts that you don't play about making money, I think we just have to keep working towards our goals and doing EVERYTHING possible to advertise ourselves and not just think it's going to come to us on a shiny platter with no effort put forth. Anyone in doubt about putting hours towards twitter, blogs, indy work, ect. a day is worth it..?? It definitely is, incredible

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    maybe i have unrealistic expectations or something....

    but i expect to get paid everytime i get on cam,,....


    and uhm, wtf? sometimes I spend over 3 hrs, and make shit.... that gets to me very bad, especially coming from indy....


    i think imma just lower my indy prices and keep it trucking

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    How depressing and this is my day off! Fuck it I'm getting on cam!

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    ok im NOT lowering my indy prices, but I do think i will go back and focus on it again. Nothing like getting money in lumpsumps of $30 , $60 , $90 and $180.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bun View Post
    Damn, CW, between the indy discouragement and this doomed business, I think you need to be reminded that you are a fucking master of cam.
    OMG this. When I'm sitting in my pjs playing a facebook game I'll think... damn, I bet CW is working on some video or doing a show right now... I need to stop being so damn lazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by CamWhore View Post
    maybe i have unrealistic expectations or something....

    but i expect to get paid everytime i get on cam,,....


    and uhm, wtf? sometimes I spend over 3 hrs, and make shit.... that gets to me very bad, especially coming from indy....
    I had one of my worst days ever on mfc today. I didn't even make minimum wage in the hour I was on! I was feeling a little stiff from moving boxes (packing) all day yesterday, so I guess it showed... but still! Ugh, MFC is starting to suck.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistyRose View Post
    First of, I love how you put wonderful under quotation marks. It just MUST automatically make you better than me, doesn't it?
    And of course, criminals are all unplanned children...holy molly, lets call the authorities, that way we can nip that thing in the bud, they can just go to the house of every single mother and snag that lil criminal right from her lactating boob and imprison, or shoot to prevent all criminal.
    And finally...how it makes your blood boil to "see poor people lugging around an army of kids". Man, this one really opens up my eyes. Until you said it, I was unaware that parenting is a privilege of rich people... Now, through your grace, I see it...WHO on Earth would allow POOR people who use PUBLIC transportation (of all horrors) to have children? Now I see it...that's not a very wise decision...poor people with children in buses, turning criminals right there before our eyes... *gasp*

    You really changed my view of the world today. *content sigh*
    And this is why I <3 Misty. A total Jonathan Swift of SW. (wrote a book about how Irish people should just eat their babies - people won't starve, and the population will be down! Solving all their problems!)
    The criminals = unplanned kids thing really threw me, I'm not even sure how she could have come to that conclusion logically...
    "Poor people" take their kids with them because they can't afford daycare, obvs. When I was little my mom was a SAHM and she took my sister and I on the bus when we went grocery shopping, or else we walked. We also lived with my mom's parents, even though my mom and dad were together, and *well over* the age of 18.. Dad worked, Mom did a little "here and there" stuff (babysat, cleaned houses, etc. etc.), so when Mom wasn't home my Granny would watch us. My grandparents moved in with US, not the other way around, and my grandparents loved being able to just come up the stairs to our part of the house and hang out with my sister and I. Nobody forced anyone to do anything.
    If you don't know someone's situation, don't judge.


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    I hustle hard , yes I do. but you know what my problem is yall? coming to SW. yup I said it. I was perfectly fine. seeing how everyone was doing great blah blah, made me want to take a peek at other sites. Now im a mess, having an account on damn near every site you can think of. Featured shows and passive income (videos) are saving my ass. but if i depended on logging onto streamate or AW for 100% of my income, Id be on welfare.

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    I just don't get how some of you can come here and argue. I don't have that kind of strength. Why let someone you will never even meet take that energy from you? It does not make sense to me at all. The negativity makes no sense.

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    I fxckin despise newbies. Now i see why everyone hated me when i was a newbie on this one site..... but the truth was, I did know it all.

    These 2011 newbies are a bit different. they are strange little aliens. Or maybe its this 420 *evil laugh*

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    I didn't talk when I was a newbie. I lurked for so goddamn long, because I didn't want to offend anyone, or ask something stupid. I just wanted to soak in all the information I could. I would never think of telling someone how to do their job. I don't understand why so many are doing that on SW lately. Am I just a bigger bitch now that it bothers me more?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CamWhore View Post
    My vent :

    I come to stripperweb for motviation but latetly it has been doing the opposite. It seems like no one is getting steady income from the site they work ( bouncing from site to site to site to site to site.....). I think im doomed to working multiple sites just to make what I want. Are we fucking doomed?
    I really really like being on multiple sites though. Sometimes regulars really get obsessed and/or they begin to bore me. I can log out and ditch em for a bit and go to another site for a break. (which can be nice too because your regs from that particular site missed you and sometimes it's a nice burst of money).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissEgo View Post
    I didn't talk when I was a newbie. I lurked for so goddamn long, because I didn't want to offend anyone, or ask something stupid. I just wanted to soak in all the information I could. I would never think of telling someone how to do their job. I don't understand why so many are doing that on SW lately. Am I just a bigger bitch now that it bothers me more?
    No... lately there's an outburst of newbies giving tryna tell everyone how it's done!
    When they're not telling vets how to make money... they're running around offering terrible advice to other new girls.
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    i am losing my fucking mind and i really just want this chloroform dream because i think that would just get me right with jesus.

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    It's horribly, horribly annoying. How do we make them stop!?!?!?!?


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    we press the report button and they get banned! BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

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    <3 CW. lol


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    I wish I knew how to stop it. It's sooo annoying. The really bad ones are the ones who are "I don't make any money QQ" and then the next day it's "Well I make $500 every day and I do it by wearing my glasses and not brushing my hair! Guys like it natural!" to someone 5 years into the biz.


    LOL @ CW.
    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    i am losing my fucking mind and i really just want this chloroform dream because i think that would just get me right with jesus.

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    Why cant we start another forum like AmberCutie? Just for cam models who need to VERIFY before they post. We could make stickies, have a section for newbies. Im gonna day dream about it for a bit lol. I have no idea how hard it is to run a forum though. Its probably a huge pain in the ass.

    The people here on SW that I like, respect, and admire are outweighing those that I dont thankfully. Those that are annoying, ignorant, idiots are few but are for some reason are impacting me more than Id like. I need to mute the guests and basics somehow I guess lol.

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