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    Im not the aggressive type when it comes to guys.. Im a really attractive girl and guys tell me that all the time so i can go up to any guy, but half of the guys i can normally get a lap dance from but then they wanna know what im going to differently if they do a CR room with me...and i know they mean sexually... Im not going to feed them bullshit that im going to play with them or anything..so they i get pissed cuz thats what they want and then i get mad..... Plus guys will ask me to "sell myself" and im going going to..i think if they like me they will do a dance...
    Should i BS them i say i will do stuff i they do a room with me and then dont...
    i only been dancing for 6 months and im already frustrated with trying to sell dances...the nights i make really big money is when i run into a guy that tips me like crazy....
    other then that im doing like 6-15 dances a night
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    ugh. i hate it when guys ask me to "sell myself" or for my "sales pitch". like they outright ask. to me, when i hear that all i hear is "i think i'm way too cool to spend money on you, but i want to make you think it's your fault for not having a good enough pitch, instead of knowing that i'm a worthless time-waster". i might be wrong, but i don't care. they are lucky that clubs have gotten so strict with girls, or else i'd hurt them very badly.
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    Default Re: getting frustrated with scum bags

    Quote Originally Posted by she sells sanctuary View Post
    ugh. i hate it when guys ask me to "sell myself" or for my "sales pitch". like they outright ask. to me, when i hear that all i hear is "i think i'm way too cool to spend money on you, but i want to make you think it's your fault for not having a good enough pitch, instead of knowing that i'm a worthless time-waster". i might be wrong, but i don't care. they are lucky that clubs have gotten so strict with girls, or else i'd hurt them very badly.
    That's exactly how I take those fools too. I "pitch them with a non pitch. Either they want to have fun or they want to sit and talk nonsense. But I'm out if they're not up for a good time. I'm sure as shit not going to beg or work for it. Most of the time they don't have the cash but want to keep you there or they are assholes who want to torture and demean their dancer for every dollar they spend.
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    "Oh... Your one of those boring guys.. You stay here and I'll go look for someone that knows how to have fun."

    You have no idea how this pisses them off and if they got money they want to prove they are not boring. But drag it out abit, try to make then say what they want you to do before using it.

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    I refuse to let a guy have the upper hand like that. It makes me so uncomfortable when they push me to 'sell myself'.
    I smile sweetly, lean in to their ear and try 'Well there's no touching, but we're gonna have SO much fun. I give the BEST dances here, especially in the CR where we'll be all alone and I can REALLY relax'
    If they don't go for that and its quiet, then I'll say 'Thats okay, we can have a regular dance and I can show you why we should have gone straight to CR'
    Generally I have very little patience for these guys.

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    "come to the CR and I'll make you cum"

    a guy could cum from a LD. if he doesnt cum and he complains be like "well that's not my fault!!!"

    you gotta be a bitch with these guys. if he's a scumbag looking for that type of shit, he deserves it.

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    yea they are assholes... or if they talk all kinds of bs...esp trying to take you home and they hand you a dollar i put them right in there place and say wont you start handing me 20's and take me in the CR and put your money were your mouth is..and stop trying to take me home..i did that last night to a drunk guy and he left!!!
    I started to go up to the older guys and just put my arms around them and look at them all cute and chat and then say i think we should do a dance instead of asking...if your cute and they like you normally they wont turn you down if u just tell them your going to instead of asking them...but im not wasting my time "selling" myself to get a dance or talking to a guy that right aways wants more...my club is clean and great they can go somewhere else...
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    Default Re: getting frustrated with scum bags

    Why lie about waht you are going to do down there? Just be honest and straightfoward, its not worth it to lie. Could lead to a lot of serious BS. After a while of working, you will attract enough fans and guys who respect you that they will want to buy the VIP room out of respect and admiration for you.

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    Girls, I hate to burst your bubble, but dancing IS sales, which means that often you're going to have to put in a little more effort than just "It's a lapdance, you stupid!". The customer often needs a reason to justify this large amount of money he is going to spend on someone being naked with him and him not being able to do anything. So, don't get angry at them. They might be uncomfortable splashing out this money on something they are unsure of.

    Be creative and say something like:

    "Oh, I'm sure you came here tonight to spend some lovely time with beautiful women, didn't you?" "I think you deserve a treat. I'm sure you've been working hard this week and need some special female treatment!"
    "I promise you it will be awesome. You seem like a really cool guy and I'd hate you to miss out on my lap dancing skills!"

    Basically make them feel like it's ALL about them. It's not about you getting paid. It's about them having this amazing experience and you being sincere about their wellbeing and happiness.

    What I strongly suggest is ALWAYS being honest! Lying and not following through is not worth it in the long term and you will quickly gain a reputation of an untrustworthy dancer. Never promise them anything you're not going to deliver. If they want sex and you're not going to give it to them, then just say so and move on. Don't waste your energy on them and don't get angry. It's like trying to sell an apple to someone that wants an orange. Makes sense?
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    it is a game play it well and make money or get frustrated and walk out with less than you could have had

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    With most guys I'll say "We might as well do VIP. If you're a typical man you're going to spend equally as much or more than what a VIP costs. The typical red blooded guy never stops after one dance and it's more private, more intimate/ naughty, better quality but no pressure or anything...."

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    To the OP:

    It reads to me a little like you have trouble justifying the cost of the champagne room. I don't know why that is: if it's because you don't believe the room is worth how much it costs, if it's because you genuinely don't know how to sell it, or if the guys really are scumbags with no money.

    First of all, you have to believe your CR is worth the cost. Not doing this is a reason a lot of girls don't sell them: they simply can't justify why someone would spend hundred or thousands on those things, so they don't believe in their hustle. The point is, it's not about us (the dancer), it's about the customer. If they are there, then they are willing to part with the money (or at least seriously considering doing so).

    Second, honesty is the best policy. There was a point I used to always be jealous of girls who used to sell rooms, wondering what magic words they said. These dancers were not stunning and they were never cheesy. I discovered late that there really was no huge secret to it. They sold those rooms based on exactly what it was offering - privacy, intimacy, undivided attention and beautiful surroundings. They just were charming and sold the rooms like they believed they were worth every dime, not a cent less, and could describe this to a man in a manner that gives him an element of anticipation. The minute a dancer starts stuttering in her pitch is the minute she's lost the sale. Noone will spend a lot of money on a product that the seller shows little knowledge of or confidence in.

    If you are beautiful, then work it to your advantage. But just remember that beauty alone is not what sells CRs. It's communication skills. That's how extended VIPs (2+ hours) get sold.

    All I will say is whatever you do - do not lie. It is never worth it and word spreads amongst customers. You might make a quick buck at the expense of thousands.

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    Awesome post, Union Jackie!

    Confidence really is key. Customers don't buy the "dance", they buy "you" - your confidence, enthusiasm and overall attitude. If you don't believe it's worth it, why should they? So keep on polishing your lines and affirm to yourself that you are worth X$ per hour.

    Also, if you call your customers "scum bags", "wankers", "assholes", "idiots", that's the "lens" that you're seeing them through from and you're automatically looking for the signs to justify your opinion. You only see the ugly part of them. Shift your attention from what you don't want to what you DO want. You create your own experiences in every aspect in your life.

    Happy hustling!
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