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    How do you deal with people assuming they know “how the club works” when they couldn’t be more wrong in some cases? For instance, the other night I sat next to a guy who wouldn’t tip anyone that came around after getting off stage. He finally said to me, “I think it’s so rude to ask for tips. I would rather they ask for a dance because at least then they’re being paid to do something. I don’t think girls should be allowed to ask for tips.” In my small club, every girl there makes more in tips than dances. There have been nights were girls didn’t get any dances but made over $200 in tips. I tried explaining this to him as briefly and politely as possible, but he just kept going on about how it was “rude” to ask for tips and “it shouldn’t be allowed.” (Btw, after all his talk about how it would be better for girls to ask for dances, he never got a single dance from any girl who asked… ugh) He’s just one example of the kind of guy, who we get a lot in my club, who likes to whine about “why can’t you girls just sit and be chill? Why can’t you just be real instead of looking at us as ‘dollar signs’?” I just really don’t know how to respond to these sorts of statements without a long-winded, bitchy rant about this being our job.

    I also had a friend come in and see me once with her male cousin, and while I was sitting with them, girls would come up asking for tips, and her cousin would awkwardly turn them down, looking like he felt bad. My friend turned to him and said “If you don’t want to tip them, just say so. They get rejected all the time – it’s no big deal.” Yeeeah, to an extent that’s true, but I don’t promote sitting there watching all the girls on stage and then saying “no, I don’t want to tip you,” while assuming that it’s “no big deal” to the dancer. I didn’t really know what to say to her without seeming like I was getting bitchy and on a high-horse.

    Idk, I guess in general, I feel like when I “correct” people, I just come across as preachy/bitchy/angry. But then again, I don’t want to sit there, letting stupid customers believe stupid things about how the club works.

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    Default Re: Should you "correct" people?

    I think the politest way, would be to smile and be a little off-put that they "don't know" and say that maybe you can get the manager/waittress/doorman/bouncer/dj to explain some of the customs here. Even if you don't go hook them up w/ an impartial staff member- maybe it will give the impression you're searching for (which is one of: YOU"RE INCORRECT SIR) without offending too much OR making YOU look bad in any way.

    Just straightforward and helpful, because if you come right out and say it- it DOES sound exactly like you think.

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    Default Re: Should you "correct" people?

    Honestly, I find when guys talk like that "I think it's rude to ask for tips, blah, blah, blah" then they're just looking for an excuse to be cheap. It's like when customers complain about drink prices being higher.

    The men SHOULD understand that it's a strip club and they're paying for more than beer. They're expected to pay their entertainers (not every dancer, and not every stage show, but they should purchase a dance or tip someone). If they don't know that flat out, then their head is up their ass so far they can't use common sense.You can try explaining it to them once by saying "It's how we make our money babe, and really it's a deal, because my ass is so great it's priceless!"

    I just walk away from cheapo's like this; they're not worth the time or effort.



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    I politely mention that different clubs work in different ways, and then say how much I love the system here.
    And when I'm told 'you don't seem like the stripper type' I bring up the film 'The Goods: Live Hard, Sell Hard' and the 3 stereotypes of strippers, explaining that everyone expects a certain type of girl because of how we're portrayed in films, but in reality we're here because we want to be, not because we have to be.

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    Ignore guys like that, either try to sell it to them or leave. When Im in a pissy mood, or just for my entertainment value I like to get moody on guys. When I see guys sitting there the whole night and not wasting a dime on a girl, I like to time to him and be rude, if im bored or let to vent. hah... I dont think you should be correcting them. Use your time better, you can but it might get into an agruement, or worse, but can do it for giggles or boredom. These guys are cheap, want more, complain about everything.

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    usually if guys complain to me about club policy/culture, i'll tell them they should say something to the manager. they almost always know they're full of shit. though, in his case, i'd probably say "i don't recall asking you".

    frankly, he's probably the sort who feels he's entitled to sexually assault a girl for the price of a dance, so be thankful he didn't get any.

    they almost always know how it works. they're just assholes.
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    Default Re: Should you "correct" people?

    Yes! I do it all the time!

    I even had to correct customers about other things that aren't even related to dancing. One time, I had a naval pilot as a customer; just because he was an officer he thought he knew everything about aircraft and it turned out to be the opposite. He had no idea that the type of aircraft he flies deals with logistics; I had to explain to him (during the dance) what logistics are and about fixed wing aircraft designation. He came by the next day thanking me (with a big tip) for my knowledge. He still doesn't know that I'm just an enlisted reservist!





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    Default Re: Should you "correct" people?

    Quote Originally Posted by kitinboots View Post
    but in reality we're here because we want to be, not because we have to be.
    I wish I could explain this to my family...they're still stuck with the mentality that girls who take their clothes off are stuck in some sort of drug addiction, alcoholism, or they're just prostitutes.

    Back to the subject; I already said yes.





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    Default Re: Should you "correct" people?

    I agree with the time waster concept. Next time just shake your head, smile and walk away.. If he's bitching about $1 tip, he's a cheapskate. You seem somewhat new to the biz... I suggest reading hustle hut... start from the first page and work your way up

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    But they're not always timewasters who act like this. I've been in the VIP with guys who have then gone on to talk a load of bullshit about how they knows how it works and how much they think I make in a night (which I wish he was right about cause I'd be making €4000 a week!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    Yes! I do it all the time!

    I even had to correct customers about other things that aren't even related to dancing. One time, I had a naval pilot as a customer; just because he was an officer he thought he knew everything about aircraft and it turned out to be the opposite. He had no idea that the type of aircraft he flies deals with logistics; I had to explain to him (during the dance) what logistics are and about fixed wing aircraft designation. He came by the next day thanking me (with a big tip) for my knowledge. He still doesn't know that I'm just an enlisted reservist!

    Good lord, I didn't think your stories could get any more ridiculous than they already were. LOL, guess I was wrong.

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    if a guy's sitting at the stage not tipping the girls I'll say "if you're not tipping you shouldn't sit at the stage" and if they don't get up or start tipping then I get bitchy. personally I don't give a fuck. you would get kicked out of a grocery store if you ate all the free samples without buying anything. how is the club any different? it's a BUSINESS.

    oh and my favorite one is when they're like "well you make so much money why do I have to buy a dance/tip you?" and then I inform them that we don't absorb the money by walking past customers. customers have to GIVE US the money.

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    customers need to be trained to spend and behave. if a guy is being blatantly cheap, i reprimand them. we are not free entertainment. if they are not willing to spend, they should not be having fun.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    ^ VERY true. Customers have to be trained. I know a lot of the blues wouldn't like hearing that, but it's true. They shouldn't expect to be able to come in and watch for free. They MUST be told/taught that it's pay to play (or view, whatever).



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    I tell people that if they want to go somewhere, where the girls dont ask for dances (its not really a thing were ive worked to tip) then they should go to a normal bar, buy a girl a bucket load of drinks, and still get no action at the end of the night, at least we dancers get naked for thier dosh.

    i hate cheap skates in any walk of life, if people cant afford it, or dont wanna give it, dont waste my breathing space dude, jog on! lol move onto the guy who does wanna see u naked and tips/pays for a dance in appreciation for your beauty and willingness to share what you have.

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    I felt so bad last night, I was with not 1, but 2 dudes over the same night that were extremely rude to the SAME waitress that came up to us, one waved her off in a very inappropriate manner, the other did not tip AT ALL when she brought us both drinks on two occasions. I wanted to say something, and probably should have, but the rudeness occured just as I could tell that they were almost 100% interested and would more than likely purchase dances--both of them did. I tipped her a little later on and appologized for their rudeness, I don't know if that was appropriate but I thought it was better than nothing since I didn't say anything to the customers in either scenario.

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    I completly agree with customers have to be trained. Train them right cause there will be about 10 other bitches who will train em wrong.

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    Last night sat down with a guy who was a complete dick about everything. I started to sell him the idea of a CR and he turned everything back on me 'You're not selling this to me. I want to see your tits. let me see you naked first'. I told him no free samples.
    It took me a while but I got him in there. The waitress came in and he gave her such a hard time 'This is just like Vegas. This is a scam. You give me the best at the cheapest price. I never pay full price. I know your game.' that she had to leave and send in another girl.
    Then he wouldn't shut up the whole time, comparing me to girls who had danced for him previously, telling me he knows I'm going to take his card details and charge him 7 times.
    He was a fucking nightmare to work with!

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    ^i hate the free samples guys. i had a couple the other day. my line is "do i look like i work at the food court at the mall? nope? well then no free samples!"

    im surprised you stuck with him. i have no patience for these guys. it might pay off once in a while but i feel like the emotional headache of dealing with them isnt worth it. the free samples guys i worked with were all like "we have 800$ in our pocket and we are ready to spend. but we need a sample first." i told them off and they ended up leaving. was it my loss? no, i dont think so, because the customer i talked to immediately after was a perfect gentleman, did not ask for free samples, and spent over 2 Grand.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kitinboots View Post
    Last night sat down with a guy who was a complete dick about everything. I started to sell him the idea of a CR and he turned everything back on me 'You're not selling this to me. I want to see your tits. let me see you naked first'. I told him no free samples.
    It took me a while but I got him in there. The waitress came in and he gave her such a hard time 'This is just like Vegas. This is a scam. You give me the best at the cheapest price. I never pay full price. I know your game.' that she had to leave and send in another girl.
    Then he wouldn't shut up the whole time, comparing me to girls who had danced for him previously, telling me he knows I'm going to take his card details and charge him 7 times.
    He was a fucking nightmare to work with!
    What's a "CR"? I tried to google it but couldn't find any hits.

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    There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with correcting customers like this. Either they honestly don't understand how it works... or... they're pathetic cheapass scumbags who need to be called out frequently enough to discourage them from coming back empty handed.

    I don't do "free samples".. to the extent that I won't even sit on somebody's lap unless we're taking breaks in between dances. And, the entire looking at you as dollar signs thing is a fucking joke. Yes, this is a sales job.. if you want to get to know me, that's dandy.. but, my time is valuable.. There are lots of customers I genuinely get along with and enjoy spending time with when I'm at work.. But, they understand the system and compensate me for my time. If they just want to talk to women.. there are regular bars for that..

    If they don't want to spend money on women... internet porn and jerking off is still free last time I checked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arielbriel View Post
    Train them right cause there will be about 10 other bitches who will train em wrong.
    Damn straight!

    I always, always correct customers. Sometimes they genuinely don't know how the club works and with a gentle presentation of the facts they come good.

    However, as everyone else has said, some guys are just douche bags... and this is when I take advantage of the opportunity to be aggressive/condescending/etc right back at them. Very rarely did they ever intend to buy a dance or tip anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherryblossomsinspring View Post
    What's a "CR"? I tried to google it but couldn't find any hits.
    CR = Champagne Room

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    im surprised you stuck with him. i have no patience for these guys.
    I stuck with him because my friend who works the cloakroom (I actually got her the job) told me to go to him. It doesn't always work out well I guess, even if the other staff have seen a healthy wallet, but when I'm sober I'm patient and I actually enjoy this type of customer in a weird 'he's-a-challenge-I-want-to-be-the-one-that-breaks-him' kind of way. We made a killing off him and his friends in the end, and I genuinely believe no other girl at my club would have had the patience to pull this off. Most of the girls are so up themselves they think they don't have to try.

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    ^lol im one of those girls. im a very fast sales person and it is rare that i will spend time talking to a customer unless i see a lot of promise for spending or i find his demeanor unusually pleasant and suspect he will spend or i am already in the CR (then i can talk for an hr straight and convince him he wants to buy another hour of my bullshit). it depends on your personality though... i dont like being aggravated at work because it burns me out quickly, but if you are able to get enjoyment and earnings out of the challenge than props to you .
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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