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    Default Re: Quality vs Quantity : content prices & sales

    I'm going to be playing around with pricing also soon. But my new project is going to be priced HIGH because the services are time intensive. But I'd rather have a a few great clients than thousands of annoying one offs.

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    ^ I'd totally be interested in seeing how things pan out for you! Part of me is thinking being on either extreme would work fairly well. I never sell things to the masses for crazy high prices. Like, I couldn't see myself pricing a standard video at $150 and actually posting it as the price to the masses, but I've sold one photo of my face to a guy for $100 before, then used the same photo as a profile picture after I did it to make a point of who was in control. You are domme, right? See part of me feels like domme stuff can totally get away with more with pricing. But maybe it's juts my mentality holding me back on this one. Idk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellyConnors View Post
    ^ I'd totally be interested in seeing how things pan out for you! Part of me is thinking being on either extreme would work fairly well. I never sell things to the masses for crazy high prices. Like, I couldn't see myself pricing a standard video at $150 and actually posting it as the price to the masses, but I've sold one photo of my face to a guy for $100 before, then used the same photo as a profile picture after I did it to make a point of who was in control. You are domme, right? See part of me feels like domme stuff can totally get away with more with pricing. But maybe it's juts my mentality holding me back on this one. Idk...
    Yes, I'm a Pro Domme and want to offer a monthly training rate that is customized to each sub. Since I charge $300 for an hour for an in person session, more intensive online training would have to come close to that.

    At the moment I do custom videos for my members. But it can end up being a lot of work for the $30 a month. So I want to target different people who really want to get involved in online training.

    I use wordpress for my site and there is a plugin that you can buy called magic members which works with ccbill and might work with Zombaio soon. You can have different levels of membership. So you can offer guys who just want to watch your weekly shows a membership for $15 a month, see some photos and videos for $30, and then pay $X for the highest level of membership

    You could do it with the fetish boys also if you aren't comfortable doing the Domme thing. They will pay more for services also.

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    ^wow that's awesome. thanks for the info.

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    ok so back on this note (since I'm finally at the point where I can seriously think about it, lol!)

    do any of you find that your higher quality content sells better than your lower quality? I'm talking more than lighting here too - like stuff that looks professional vs amateur?

    I'm an artist and a perfectionist (the worst combination) so I know I'm going to get hung up on the details, but it would be good to know from the start if it pays off. any thoughts?

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    Quote Originally Posted by CamWhore View Post
    LOL

    omg girls im so random, but im starting to make mp3s to sell on my site too! I keep finding all these ways to sit on my ass and rake in the income!
    THIS is why EVERYONE should bookmark your site...!!! Do It Now!!

    Quote Originally Posted by crispy View Post
    well, if you want to do the free chat argument you could always record your pvt sessions when you get them, but i get what you mean. im in the process of trying to do that but splitcam keeps giving me a strange error messege and wont let me save them.

    and i dont have time on my hands either thats why i only do customs for ppl that pay what i want them to instead of lowballing and oping for mass traffic.

    how long are your videos your selling? when i make a custom they are usually about 15 min.
    I always think I should record my cam shows! But then I forget until the next time I think about videos. I know some of my regs record my shows, I should just ask them to send me the files.
    OH! You could do that!! Have a contest for the person who has the most recordings of your shows lol. It's kind of rewarding them for stealing your show, BUT... you'll also have the files to sell to other people.

    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    ok so back on this note (since I'm finally at the point where I can seriously think about it, lol!)

    do any of you find that your higher quality content sells better than your lower quality? I'm talking more than lighting here too - like stuff that looks professional vs amateur?

    I'm an artist and a perfectionist (the worst combination) so I know I'm going to get hung up on the details, but it would be good to know from the start if it pays off. any thoughts?
    I used to just use my laptop's internal cam to take webcam screenshots of me. Now I have a $300+ camera. Always been self shot pictures, BUT... even though the quality is waaaay better, sales have been about the same (I was selling my "full body" bra/panties screenshots for $10 EACH). If they like you enough to buy your pics, they're going to buy them anyway. Better quality means more repeats, but don't get hung up on hiring a professional photographer every time you want to do a pic set.


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    @missego

    oh I didn't mean actual professional photography - I mean aesthetically - like if you really put effort into your lighting, music, editing, etc. so that videos look more like art films, and photos look more like artwork.

    but I'm wondering if maybe some dudes like the fact that it all looks amateur? I don't know.....thoughts?

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    I run all my pics through a photo editor to see if I need to make any changes. Crop, brighten, etc. It's easier (for me) to just take a ton of pictures using the timer on my camera and balancing the camera on a dresser or table or whatever, and then edit them that night while watching tv with the bf.
    I DON'T use all the crazy "special effects" that make my pictures look pro though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellyConnors View Post
    I'm pretty sure I've said this several times but I deviated from what's been working for me and made literally $0 in sales since.

    When I first started selling vids, I sold them for like $10. Sometimes more, depending on length and content. I'd sell 3 pics for like $5, more for more. Then a friend of mine told me that she sold everything for $5 a pop. She said some of her stuff was super high quality and long, others were lower quality and short, but no matter what she kept her prices the same, and focused on long term results.

    At the time I thought that was foolish and felt I'd never sell my stuff so cheap, but I tried it anyway and I can say that it's been so good to me. I think because a) I'm not a celebrity/I'm just a regular girl b) not all my stuff IS that great all the time c) I want the most people to have access to my material because it does help "brand" me and get my name out there d) I look at sales across the long-term vs. short-term and e) porn is free nowadays... I think $5 is a great price point.

    Once a video is created and is out there, it's out there. I only have to put in that work I did one time, and it's sold forever. The more people who download it and pay for it, the better because it takes no additional work from me. Also, the knowledge that someone theoretically *could* and probably *has* posted my vids for free makes me want to get them into the hands of as many people as possible for a fee. When videos are as cheap as $5, and I have 40 of them, it's so easy for me to hustle somebody who may have only purchased one at $10 into buying 4 for $20, and because I've put in no additional work to send it... I just earned myself more money! The more they view me, the more interested they become, the more they want to see of me. Of course for financial domination this doesn't work lol.

    Then, of course, you have the psychos who breeze through and buy everything you have for sale in one sitting. That happens at least a few times per month (used to be at least 3x per week but I don't have any new stuff really right now).

    I just put a video on a fetish listing up for sale at $10 and it has not sold once. I'm about to drop the price to $5 and I know for a fact it'll sell. At this point nudity is like, normal to me. Camming and porn online is SO everywhere, I'm like "meh, ok I'm naked... everybody is naked". My watermark is on everything. I won't even really work or sell something on a site where I can't brand myself. I just took pics of myself the other day with my 10 shot timer. 44 of them came out awesome. I'm selling them for $5 with my site name branded on to all of them, and I've earned just under $40 for that photoset in the two days it's been live. In ONE location. That's not a ton, but in another month... another 6 months... another year... that will be hundreds of bucks. And it's so worth the 20 minutes it took me to take those pics, and the 30 minutes it took to edit them, to earn hundreds off of them!

    Sorry this is so long, but this is my reasoning behind selling cheap porn. Which reminds me to go drop some of my prices. If it ain't broke... (you know the rest)
    That is reall y good advice girl! I just signed up for kink bomb .com today and gonnna start making my smoking fedish vids...Which site do you sell on?

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    I sell my videos for an average price of around 20$ or so on MGF. I wouldn't sell them any cheaper tho. I would rather have tons of sales coming in than sit there waiting for 1 sale.

    There is a girl on MGF that always talks all the good shit about "would you rather have 10 people buy your video for 30$ or 3 people buy it for 100$"... I keep thinking, whatever you stupid ho. Good luck with that shit. What guy these days is going to fork over 100$ for a crappy 10 minute webcam video?

    Sure there ARE guys who will do it... but not many. Yeah I will take 10 guys for 30$ a pop any day over selling my vids for 100$.

    Just like the girls who say they refuse to cam for anything less than 10$ a minute... good luck I say

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    I sell my videos 200-400 tokens on mfc. Usually around 10 minutes, vanilla, and solo always.

    I just started content so with my first video I sold around 15 copies for 350 tokens and my second video has only had one sale because I just put it for sale tonight

    I have an average camscore of 6,000 so I think that helps with lots of traffic and affordable prices. We are in a recession after all. I don't think 17.50$ is so bad.

    But I also will be excited to do a simple striptease video to sale for like 90 tokens (to help with my camscore so I get lots of 90+ ratings) and see the outcome of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffyFlame View Post
    If you have the traffic for the massive sales ,then you should lower them just to kjeep the traffic.

    If selling videos is rare , you should keep them high to even out everything.

    I usually sell picture set in groups of 5-10-15-20 so forth , adding 2-6 pics in each group as the price gets higher.
    where do you sell hun?

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    This might be a dumb question, sorry. I was wondering if it's possible to sell content through a blog. That way not giving all your profits to a site and having to wait for said site to pay you.
    I want my own site to sell content, just money is tight at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by southerndesires View Post
    This might be a dumb question, sorry. I was wondering if it's possible to sell content through a blog. That way not giving all your profits to a site and having to wait for said site to pay you.
    I want my own site to sell content, just money is tight at the moment
    Of course it's possible, but you need your own traffic. (plus you take the risk of losing most or all your money in chargebacks).

    If I were good at getting my own traffic I'd never split money with a site. Been trying for years but I can't get anywhere near enough to depend on. If you can tell me how to do that I'll pay you!


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    The boils down to: "Do what work for you."

    I'm still working on figuring out pricing, networking, marketing, growing my brand, converting traffic, making things easier (obvious) for new custies/clients, etc.

    It's a "every day" thing that'll get easier with time. Every single month I'm growing and learning more and more, and my income potential is rising higher and higher. In 6 months I see myself hitting my monthly income goals just in time for me to tour the US and start paying off my student loans.

    But between now and then, I need to re-vamp the layout of my site, create a SHIT TON more content to increase passive sales, and work on having an EFFECTIVE weekly marketing routine that'll notify current and potential custies about what I have to offer.

    My written assignments sell for $25, but my clips sell for $5 because of market pricing. I will probably drop the prices/offer a bundle in the near future once I have some more content out, but I need better promotional tools/traffic flow before I worry about lost sales due to pricing.

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