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    why go at each other often enough over small potatoes. I started this one first because I am composing a Right Wing version just after.

    This is not really intended for people to attack their opposite but, for opposites to stand up and state their position.

    So If your Left wing please step up and state your reasoning, please.
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    I'm more Independent, but I lean towards the left.

    Social programs and issues mean more to me than fiscal issues. I vote left because I am adamantly pro-choice (whatever the case- no fence walker here), pro gay rights (want to get married? adopt kids? go for it!), support socialized and/or affordable medical care (though the USA's health case reform? FAAAAAAAIL.), anti-prohibiton/pro-harm reduction (you're an adult- do what you want as long as you don't hurt anyone else), am anti-fear (seriously? those security checks at airports do NOTHING for safety and only eat up cash), and believe in a secular government (get your religion out of my schools unless they're private and out of my government).

    On to explanations.... First of all, I could never vote for anyone with a primarily Christian agenda (especially one with the oh-so common anti-Muslim sentiments), because it complicates/taints so many issues which are not appropriate. To tie that in with being pro gay rights- the only place it says marriage is between a man and woman is the bible... and the bible is NOT the law. In addition, that is related to my pro-choice stance. Many anti-choice activists are anti-choice BECAUSE of religion. I personally, am atheist... so if I want an abortion, why should I be governed by a religion I don't subscribe to?

    Abortion is always a touchy subject for people but personally I have never understood why. Want one? Have one. Don't? There's other options. I don't get where it affects anyone's life besides the woman, her family, and her doctor- and that's only because he's the one performing the procedure. I don't believe in "certain case" only either; people run around with the whole "abortion is not a form of birth control" argument, but if you sit back at look at the facts, who really gives a rat's ass? Abortions are around $400 a pop ( I've had two, for my own reasons), and that's damn expensive BC. Let a dumb girl like that wreck her uterus by getting it scraped out too much, and go broke using that as her BC- now she can't reproduce anyway and used all her money up. If the woman two streets over from me has an abortion, how does that affect MY life? It doesn't. Abolishing abortion or making it conditional doesn't change ANY of these things; it just causes desperate women who do desperate things, and pay the price for it by dying of complications. Also, if you reference a great book I love called Freakonomics, there's a great chapter in there about how legalizing abortion helped drop crime rates nationwide. Being in Canada now, I no longer have to worry about this BS- but I still retain the same position.

    On the subject of gay rights, this is one I truly don't understand. As far as I am concerned, the only difference between myself and a lesbian, or myself and bisexual, is who we go to bed with at the end of the night- and that's not anyone's business. It baffles me that in the inalienable rights, the "right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" is one that is frequently cited- but not one in frequent practice. Saying you can't get married, have a family, or be on your partner's insurance because you are gay etc is just as bad as saying you can't do these things because you're black, or jewish, or a woman. Discrimination is discrimination; though people will always have their personal discrimination, this personal discrimination are especially inappropriate in government.

    My position on medical care stems from personal experience. When I was 18 years old, I was diagnosed with kidney and bladder disease. As a result, I was unable to work for an extended period of time, and thus unable to pay for my health insurance- which at the time, was United Healthcare. I let my insurance lapse briefly, and when I was able to pay the premiums again, I was told I could not return because now I had a "pre-existing condition". WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?? They paid for the diagnostic surgery, and were aware of the diagnosis itself! If they were aware of my previous care, then why are they defaulting to "pre-existing condition" after an extremely short lapse? That's inhumane, scummy, and frankly- cheap. I'd go into it further, but it pisses me the fuck off.

    The war on drugs is the biggest load of horse shit I have ever had the privilege of encountering. Not only are programs like D.A.R.E ineffective (google about the DARE people in NOLA who got busted with drugs during Mardi Gras last week), but they employ scare tactics which are not steeped in fact. Furthermore, everyone who is 21+ in the USA (or 19+ in Canada, minus QC) has the right to go out and get shit faced whenever they please. There are more alcohol related deaths a year than any other drug out there... and yeah, alcohol is a drug, and one of the worst ones. See those faces of meth etc ads? Look at someone who's a bad alcoholic on the streets and they look about the same. You see ads about crack babies? They don't exist- it's a hype term. What about the ads with junkies ripping through their houses, looking for anything to give them a fix; but what about the alcoholics drinking mouthwash? It's all about knowing yourself, your limits, and what you can handle. Here in Vancouver, they've set up safe injections sites where people with drug problems can be monitored by healthcare professionals- so far, it's caused a reduction in drug related deaths, and showing promising results for disease control.

    I could go on and on, but the point of the matter is, all of these things mean much more to me than how much I pay in taxes.

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    I'm pretty liberal when it comes to a lot of things. Abortion sickens me,but it's not my place to tell someone they aren't allowed to have one. Your body,do what you would like with it.
    Gay marriage should be leagal-and i don't think anyone truely understands why it isn't. It's not hurting anyone.
    Health care should be free or cost very little. This is the one that angers me the most. Why should I have to pay some company to give me a plastic card that says I can go to the Dr. or not? Why should I have to pay a CO PAY after i've spent a shit ton of money on health insurance. It's so fucking retarded,and I can't really wrap my mind around the whole health insurance concept.
    anyways-i dont really have the time or energy to really get into politics right now.
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    I am a strange combination of left and right. For instance, I believe in having a strong military, but not to the extent that the munitions manufacturers run the country, like we are seeing today. And not so we can use it to invade the wrong country after being force fed false propaganda about weapons of mass destruction, etc.

    Definitely left-wing as far as civil liberties go. It seems like most right-wingers want no government intervention in business, but turn a blind eye to government interference in civil liberties--and the sex industry in particular. I have personally seen the stripclub business slammed down hard in two cities by right wingers, and of course we have the same shit recently in Ohio and Missouri.

    I vote democratic (though I have no special admiration for the party) and will continue to do so as long as the republicans ally themselves with the jesus freaks who are trying to shut down sexually oriented businesses like stripclubs, etc. Once in a while you'll get a democrat trying to pull this shit as well, but by far the most of them are not.
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    And high-tax social welfare states only work for more than a generation when you have a relatively homogeneous population, lots of natural raw resources and conservative values among the populace (that is separate from what is legally permissible).

    and even then, you end up with the populace not producing enough taxpayers to sustain the edifice because government-directed social welfare is too diffuse to deal well with the various free rider problems of charity. and you can't solve the taxpayer problem with immigration unless the immigrants assimilate your culture and thus become like you, starting the cycle all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    And "trickle-down" economics is one of the silliest theories ever presented.
    Seriously, this has been one of the most disgusting, self-serving, obscene hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American public. It's the equivalent of 'Let them eat cake crumbs.' Not even a real cake, just the fucking crumbs falling from the table.

    I just saw an article about how the number of millionaires has been continuously growing at higher and higher rates, despite severe recession and economic chaos. If the wealthy elite of this nation don't wake up and see the light soon, we could be in for some dangerous social upheaval. Most revolutions begin with a disgruntled, disenfranchised middle class. I'd rather not see that happen here.
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    I too am a mixture on both left and right. These mostly boil down to left on social issues, right when it comes to fiscal.

    Things I agree with the left:

    I support abortion. I don't support it as a form of birth control, and likely wouldn't have one personally, but I have no business telling a woman whether she should or not. I have given money to NARAL.

    I support gay rights. I am not gay, have no intentions of getting married to a woman, but it's not my business if someone does. I think it's bs when gay couples aren't allowed to get married but straight couples can keep getting married and married. Who's the bigger loser in this case? Also, I think it's wrong when gay couples aren't allowed to adopt kids, especially kids in need of homes like older kids or those with problems. Wouldn't it be better to have kids with parents than in group homes? I think so.

    I support legalizing drugs. I think it's bs that alcoholics can get their drugs but not pot smokers. Alcohol is more dangerous than pot. If we legalized many drugs and taxed it wouldn't we make a lot on that?

    Corporation corruption. Enough said but I resent many companies getting tax breaks to outsource. I am also offended when the CEOs are overpaid while the workers are often underpaid. Also, I resent how many women and minorities are still discriminated against.

    Gender stereotypes. Just because I am a woman I shouldn't be expected to like certain things. I never attend bridal or baby showers that are women only, nor am I into shoes or am a clothes horse. I should be able to both work and have a family if I choose to.

    Civil liberties. I support free speech and anything that we should have in a free society.


    Things I am right wing on:

    Welfare. I support welfare as a temporary measure, but not as a lifetime. I would put restrictions on it by not allowing those on welfare to get it longer than a year or so, while proving to me they are looking for a job. I do not support women who get pregnant just to get welfare.

    Related to this are those single parents. I have no problem if someone wants to adopt as a single parent. What I do not support are those who intentionally get pregnant but don't plan to marry. In most of the cases they do this for welfare and this offends me. Otherwise I don't care. I also resent the men who intentionally get a woman pregnant than abandon her. The states need to go after these guys.

    The tax system. In Illinois single people pay more in taxes than either married or especially parents. Meanwhile there are several programs set up for parents I am not qualified for. Among these are the family medical program that parents who make up to $60,000. Meanwhile I am uninsured and can't receive this assistance. This is discrimination against childless people.

    The military. I am pro military. I support them completely and feel we should be doing more for them. I think instead of supporting welfare leeches we should be offering veterans more programs like medical care forever. They deserve it. I generally don't support war though unless it's needed.

    Illegal immigration. I am tired of catering to illegals who refuse to learn the language and get welfare. Let all of them go back where they came from. Same with the thugs. However I am more mixed when it comes to illegals trying to better themselves and I would look at each situation case by case.

    Unions. I have seen so much corruption with them. Yes we used to need them but so many now are to protect lazy workers and make sure they are overpaid.

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    I am viciously liberal, both socially and fiscally. I think the conservative frame of mind that the government SHOULD have control over your body and personal life, but should NOT regulate business or business practices, is extraordinarily offensive.

    I am viciously pro-choice, to the point of being pro-abortion. It's not my business that some people use it as a form of birth control. It's a personal decision. I'd rather they abort it than have kids they don't want and can't afford.

    I am viciously pro-gay marriage. I don't understand why some people have a problem with it. It's quite literally nobody's business. If your gay neighbors down the street get married, how the fuck does it affect you? It doesn't. I feel like Republicans make a big deal out of this shit that really doesn't affect the public just to distract the morons from the shit the Republicans do that negatively affects everyone who isn't obscenely wealthy.

    I am pro health reform. I think this country desperately needs it. We should be ashamed of the fact that we are so far behind the rest of the world on this.

    I really, really think we need to spend a hell of a lot more money on research in alternative energy sources. We should be at least 30 years ahead of where we are now. We have a finite amount of oil left, and that's a major problem. But in any case, we should be advancing that science simply because it improves society in general, not simply because we're about to run out. The Stone Age didn't end because they ran out of stones. It ended because they advanced to something better.

    I think we spend waaaaay too much money on defense. We don't need all the shit that we have. When we invade a country, we keep a military presence there indefinitely, and it's simply not necessary.

    I am very pro-education reform. The No Child Left Behind Act is a crock of shit. It's turned all American schools into little testing factories. Nobody learns anything they will ever use or remember. The teachers aren't allowed to teach anything but what is supposed to be on the tests, and that's fucking ridiculous. Americans should WANT to learn, they should WANT to have an education. We are an incredibly ignorant country, and we shouldn't be.

    I am pro-taxes. If anyone watches Bill Maher, you'll know that his theme this season is "Reclaiming Patriotism" from the Republicans. It's Patriotic to pay taxes. If they taxed the wealthy like they taxed everyone else, this country would be out of debt really fucking fast. I don't understand how you can say otherwise. We know this to be mathematically true. And I can honestly say that if I had that kind of serious money, I would honestly have no problem paying the same taxes on it that I paid as a middle-class citizen, because it's something that helps the country in general.

    I think that the government should interfere more in business than they do. Regulations are important. Without government regulation, we wouldn't have laws stating that companies cannot sell adulterated food products or medicines that are poisonous, as was legal in the early 20th century, before muckrakers exposed the shocking conditions of the factories producing these items.

    I am very anti-organized religion, and find the very idea that religion should take precedence in schools and government personally offensive. I am not Christian. I do not need or want their religious dogma in my life in any way, shape, or form. The founding fathers desperately wanted a separation between church and state, especially since they knew how badly that could turn out. Look at the Salem Witch Trials.

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    Add my name to the list. Djoser and firemaiden pretty much share the same opinions I do for the most part.

    I also think there needs to be welfare reform. Not to be done away with completely, but it is out of control. I do hate that there are so many taking advantage of it. I also think that ending it completely will bring an avalanche worth of problems. You think there is a crime/homeless problem now....

    I do have a problem with illegal immigration, but to be honest I don't know what to do about that. They are a burden, yet one reason I love this country is because we welcomed people from all over the world.

    My passions are better sex education, protecting and promoting birth control to all, and ensuring abortion is always on the table for those who may use it one day. If some women abuse that, well only they need to bear that burden. I don't care either way. I'm all about options and having available resources.
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    I define myself, like many here, pretty much as a moderate (socially liberal, fiscally conservative.)

    I am pretty much "pro" everything:

    • choice
    • gay rights (although NOT marriage - "separate but equal" is my mantra!)
    • gun
    • death penalty
    • military
    • welfare reform


    The only issues that I am "anti" about are:

    • labor unions
    • organized religion (for the most part. Non-judgmental organized religions seem to be few & far between)

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    I'm left wing because it is the only thing that makes sense.

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    Coming to SW to debate political philosophy makes as much sense as visiting a petting zoo to learn about Quantum Mechanics. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penandink1019 View Post
    Coming to SW to debate political philosophy makes as much sense as visiting a petting zoo to learn about Quantum Mechanics. LOL.
    Why do you say that? On this site, I can discuss anything and everything under the sun, and no one will jump down my throat for working in the sex industry. Most other online forums, the instant people discover I'm a stripper, they become extremely insulting and begin to claim that I have nothing legitimate to say, since I must be a whore and a drug addict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penandink1019 View Post
    Coming to SW to debate political philosophy makes as much sense as visiting a petting zoo to learn about Quantum Mechanics. LOL.
    Coming to StripperWeb to dictate how others should think, and act; makes as much sense, as walking to Hawaii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    It's one thing to be opposed to gay marriage, but to have "separate but equal" as your mantra is retarded. After years of color segregation, Brown v Board ruled that separate is NOT equal, and that has been the legal opinion since. I'm not trying to convince you that your view is wrong, but you should really reconsider being publicly proud of a stance that most people agree is inherently wrong and a part of our country's history that we should be ashamed about.


    I'm sorry but that's how I feel.
    And don't call my mantra retarded.

    As a gay woman, I dislike the word "marriage" because IMHO straight people have destroyed it and made it ugly and undesirable. I want all of the legal rights that "marriage" brings, but I don't want it called "marriage". Civil unions is fine....domestic partnership (what I have now) is fine. Give me all of the legal rights and just don't call it "marriage". So in that respect, "separate but equal" in terms of wording is something I believe in, even though it may be an unusual stance amongst my gay brethren.

    And I'm not pulling the "gay" card to try to back up my argument....I think I would feel this way even if I was straight.

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    Love it Lopaw! Makes me want a gay civil union. Fuck marriage! But, of course, I will be marrying all of my cats instead.

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    There was a stand up comedian who made a joke to the effect of "The fact that gay's can't marry isn't fair - they should suffer just like the rest of us straight folks". I still think they should have the right to have a 'marriage' if they indeed want one, although I can see why anyone (gay or straight) would want to avoid the term and just get the benefits.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    There was a stand up comedian who made a joke to the effect of "The fact that gay's can't marry isn't fair - they should suffer just like the rest of us straight folks". I still think they should have the right to have a 'marriage' if they indeed want one, although I can see why anyone (gay or straight) would want to avoid the term and just get the benefits.
    My opinion about this is if gay marriages aren't allowed then I support gay unions. However, I've heard about civil unions for straight unmarried people, such as allowing benefits for straight partners who aren't married. I do not support under any circumstances civil unions, or any benefits for people who aren't married. If you want the benefits given to married couples then you get married. Otherwise you are just boyfriend/girlfriend. If you don't believe in marriage (and I know many don't) then you don't get the benefits, end of story. I would actually vote against civil unions for straight people. I figure if you are committed enough you'll get married.

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    Nice thread, like to see a lot of peoples opinion.

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    LMAO...what is the point with these "sides"?
    When I lived in other countries for a while, I learned so much...the US is far behind in things that they think they are 1st in, that these "sides" are stupid and divide "US" more and make us more vulnerable to being divided and attacked. SMDH.

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    In general, I have a live and let live attitude. As long as people aren't harming others, they should be able to live their lives the way they see fit. Being liberal goes along with this a lot better than being conservative. On the other hand, I am conservative when it comes to dealing with people who do harm others. I support strong punishment for murderers and other violent criminals. I do believe that there are crimes so horrible, that the perpetrator should be put to death.

    Unlike conservatives, I not only believe people should not be allowed to harm other innocent people, I also believe businesses should not be allowed to harm people. Businesses should not be allowed to poison our air or water or sell defective/harmful products. Workers for businesses should have decent working conditions and reasonable pay that they are able to live on.

    I also believe in basing my views and decisions on facts and evidence, not ideology and religious superstitions. If the evidence shows that humans evolved from more primitive creatures, then there is no reason to reject this evidence, even if it goes against what some people want to believe. I find conservatism to be based much more on what people want to believe rather than what the facts and evidence shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    I am a strange combination of left and right. For instance, I believe in having a strong military, but not to the extent that the munitions manufacturers run the country, like we are seeing today. And not so we can use it to invade the wrong country after being force fed false propaganda about weapons of mass destruction, etc.

    Definitely left-wing as far as civil liberties go. It seems like most right-wingers want no government intervention in business, but turn a blind eye to government interference in civil liberties--and the sex industry in particular. I have personally seen the stripclub business slammed down hard in two cities by right wingers, and of course we have the same shit recently in Ohio and Missouri.

    I vote democratic (though I have no special admiration for the party) and will continue to do so as long as the republicans ally themselves with the jesus freaks who are trying to shut down sexually oriented businesses like stripclubs, etc. Once in a while you'll get a democrat trying to pull this shit as well, but by far the most of them are not.
    I'm much the same in terms of having combination politics (the last political spectrum quiz I took called me a left-ish libertarian, which explains a lot). I'm strongly in favour of civil liberties, but also a strong criminal justice system and other right-ish mods - for instance, I favour capitalism and limits on immigration.

    Also a pro-choice atheist.

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    In general, I have a live and let live attitude. As long as people aren't harming others, they should be able to live their lives the way they see fit. Being liberal goes along with this a lot better than being conservative. On the other hand, I am conservative when it comes to dealing with people who do harm others. I support strong punishment for murderers and other violent criminals. I do believe that there are crimes so horrible, that the perpetrator should be put to death.

    Unlike conservatives, I not only believe people should not be allowed to harm other innocent people, I also believe businesses should not be allowed to harm people. Businesses should not be allowed to poison our air or water or sell defective/harmful products. Workers for businesses should have decent working conditions and reasonable pay that they are able to live on.

    I also believe in basing my views and decisions on facts and evidence, not ideology and religious superstitions. If the evidence shows that humans evolved from more primitive creatures, then there is no reason to reject this evidence, even if it goes against what some people want to believe. I find conservatism to be based much more on what people want to believe rather than what the facts and evidence shows.
    This sums my position up fairly well, also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    I do believe that there are crimes so horrible, that the perpetrator should be put to death.
    I agree that there are crimes so horrible that the criminal deserves death, i simply do not trust in cops and lawyers enough to give them that kind of power. I would be all for the death penalty if it was me deciding who got to live or die, anyone else? no, fuck that.

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    "Left" and "Right" can mean many things, but with regards to welfare and social programs:

    Philosophically - In a perfect world, I'd lean to the left and be in favor of social programs, etc.

    Practically/In the Real World - I believe that people tend to get lazy and dependent with social programs. There has to be some incentive to work hard and lift yourself by your own bootstraps.

    My personal experience is this (I don't mean to offend anyone): I grew up working class. When I was 14, my parents bought their first home in an owner-occupied, safe, decent, hard-working and proud blue-collar/working-class neighborhood. This neighborhood and its school turned to shit when Section 8 renters (gov't subsidized renters) came in.
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