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    I bought the domain in Summer of '09 but after falling out with my original designer (he was a flake), I commissioned GirlProfit to build my indy/members' site. I started in late September and as of tonight, I have only $100 left to pay until my members' site is completely paid for. It was a lot of work but I got a deep discount, since I bought a ton of add-ons and features to be incorporated, on a Black Friday sale.
    My site's features will include:

    Member Area Design & Integration
    Authentication Software
    Content Management System
    SSL Member Area - Initial Cost & Set-Up
    Affiliate Program - Site Design, Set-Up & Integration
    E-Commerce System
    Live Video Broadcasting (****SO excited for this!!)
    Monthly Custom Hosting Package

    Plus at least a couple of years worth of webmastering services among other things. I'm also planning to integrate the software for my remote-controlled fucking machine very soon. That's taking some time, seeing as the machine's software is so new, itself. My members' area is being designed right now and I'm headed out of town to do my quarterly content shoot for the site.

    I can't recommend GirlProfit for this stuff, enough, y'all. They've been so patient with me, never fucked with me about payments (my custies paid for the bulk of this), helped me flesh out ideas and really heard me out when I wanted to go in a different direction than what the designers brought. It was always changed to my specifications and that made me relax enough to really allow them more creative license.

    Its so great to know that very soon, I won't need a single site to cam from ever again. I'll work on sites here and there to gain exposure but I plan to very personally drive traffic to my site and build an extremely devoted customer-base. I have a pretty good base of followers as it is and I'm hoping that for those who have yet to meet me, they'll be sold on the presentation. I'm just so proud of it. I worked so hard to get to this point and now it's almost done.
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    Very very very wonderful! This is the direction ALL girls should go in. As soon as I pump out the panty site, my next contribution will be REALLY fun. And it will take us all in this direction.

    Congrats!

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    Congratulations! It's definitely hard to get a site done these days. I got so frustrated with how many webmasters will dick you around that I learned content management and did my site myself! Very awesome that you were able to find someone you can trust and congrats on paying for it all already too!


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    Only thing I would suggest is that you look into member area security setups. Member areas are favorites for content thieves - password sharers and file sharers who will join your site, download all your content immediately then cancel or even file a chargeback so you get NO money. Then they'll post all your content on file-sharing sites and forums. It's one thing to have some wanker posts a file or 3, but having your entire site ripped is very bad for business.

    A good member area security program and content management system on your backend can help minimize this. This can help block multiple IPs from accessing your site with same username/password, rotate content and links so everything isn't available all at once (and so the member area looks more fresh), and limit downloading so someone can't just log in and download all your stuff in one day then leave and/or share it with the world for free.


    I had a member area myself for a while and found it to be way more hassle than it was worth. Too much time to maintain for not enough return. Individual video and pic sales is much more profitable and less bs for me. But that doesn't mean it will be this way for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SupaByoch View Post
    Individual video and pic sales is much more profitable and less bs for me. But that doesn\'t mean it will be this way for you.
    Exactly!

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    For anyone interested, is worth checking out for your members area security.


    tessarubyxoxo: somehow i ended up on SW's homepage.... then i clicked on "forums." & i was in fucking narnia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    Very very very wonderful! This is the direction ALL girls should go in. As soon as I pump out the panty site, my next contribution will be REALLY fun. And it will take us all in this direction.

    Congrats!

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    Oohh.. sounds fascinating. Yeah, keep in touch. I obviously want to collaborate with anyone who's allying themselves with more independent camgirls.

    Quote Originally Posted by mzdeniro View Post
    I've been thinking about doing a website again so I'm glad you posted this. I may just have to look into them cause I really don't feel like building a site by myself again.
    I know! Building a site seems so daunting a task for me. The first time around, nothing was happening fast enough and I had to let it sit there. Finally, I just decided I would either build it up or take it all down and not do it again. I started with a small idea but it grew pretty fast and I just jumped on it. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have gone far in my camming, for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by IsobelWren View Post
    Congratulations! It's definitely hard to get a site done these days. I got so frustrated with how many webmasters will dick you around that I learned content management and did my site myself! Very awesome that you were able to find someone you can trust and congrats on paying for it all already too!
    Thanks! Man, I tried to do this by myself but its just not my strong suit. I'm good at doing the job but not at all on the technical side. And for the most part, I don't care to be. Once I came to the conclusion that I don't want to shoot my own content or manually build anything, I realized I needed a stronger budget and a good strategy to allow myself the ability to outsource. This has worked out well, in the end. I'm still in full control and ownership of my content and my site and I can now move forward, letting others lay out the stuff that I simply never could or would.

    I'd like to learn content management someday, really. GP is very open and transparent about their methods and I'm sure I'l pick up the basics as I go along. Contracting them for webmastering seems like the right thing to do, since I'm more focused on fund-raising for the site and building up the customer base (something no one can do for me). Perhaps, I'll take the web-mastering reigns someday but as long as their services are free/cheap, I'll stay with what works for me, until I more get comfortable.
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    May I ask what it costs you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambalina View Post
    May I ask what it costs you?

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    I'm not going to give the cost they quoted me as they are very fluctuating. GP tends to run A LOT of sales and promotional offers. I got over a $7K value in services, added. That's all I'm going to say. I was very flexible in my sites' structure to allow a more easy fit for them to build the custom layout and templates, got bundled services and took advantage of a HUGE sale (Black Friday), where I added most of the more crucial and expensive elements (Live Video Broadcasting, Affiliate Program Setup, E-Commerce System among others). I saved at least a couple thousand dollars that way, right there.

    Let's just say, it wasn't cheap but I got a great deal. I really do feel like I OWN my work now. It feels like a boutique to me. I'm psyched.

    It was great to have an easy way for custies to funnel money into it, too. I couldn't have done it, otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SupaByoch View Post
    For anyone interested, https://www.bettercgi.com/strongbox/ is worth checking out for your members area security.
    This is ESSENTIAL for anyone with a member site. I get reports everyday from people trying to hack in. Or idiots sharing their passwords and getting locked out. Strongbox notices if multiple IP addresses are using the same username/password

    I also recently set ccbill to auto generate passwords for members. So they get something totally random in a string of letters, numbers, special characters, in upper and lower case.

    I did this after I saw a member using 'password' for his password

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    I really appreciate the security concerns and recommendations but I'm not going to discuss how I've implemented those measures or what methods I'll be using in my site for a purpose:

    SECURITY.

    Why would I broadcast online, on a public forum, how I go about securing the members' area of my site? So every hacker in the world can try to crack into it? Doesn't make much sense to me. But thanks. Trust me, if you think I just dropped this kind of cash on a site and didn't consider excellent security in the making of it, you're kidding yourself. That base is well-covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    I really appreciate the security concerns and recommendations but I'm not going to discuss how I've implemented those measures or what methods I'll be using in my site for a purpose:

    SECURITY.

    Why would I broadcast online, on a public forum, how I go about securing the members' area of my site? So every hacker in the world can try to crack into it? Doesn't make much sense to me. But thanks. Trust me, if you think I just dropped this kind of cash on a site and didn't consider excellent security in the making of it, you're kidding yourself. That base is well-covered.
    They can tell from your login page what security system you are using. It doesn't matter what you use. Just use more than what ccbill or zombaio etc provide. And that sounds like you are doing exactly that

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellini View Post
    They can tell from your login page what security system you are using. It doesn't matter what you use. Just use more than what ccbill or zombaio etc provide. And that sounds like you are doing exactly that
    Agree.


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    I believe that you will have to work harder with your own site
    then you do working cams...do you girls find this to be true?

    But I also believe that the more you put into it the more you
    get out of it...

    If you are a slouch on working cams then you will be a slouch
    on putting your own site together and getting it to produce a
    nice income...

    If you are on fire when it comes to cams then this will only help
    and spill over onto your own sites success...

    Am I wrong in thinking this way?
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    ^mmm I don't know about all of that. I think the issue with that boils down to mentality. Personally I'm one lazy ass bitch when it comes to working on cams because honestly I think it's a stupid way to work. Most of these shitty ass camsites out here want to give us %35 to %50, regulate what we can or can not say, whether or not we can promote what we *should* be promoting, what types of shows we can provide, or have slow to no traffic anyway. Under those conditions I'm sorry if I'm sounding crass, but I think being a "go-getter" is one of the dumbest things any woman can do. You will never, ever, ever see me sitting in front of a camera on a mainstream site for hours and hours letting somebody else take the lion's share of what I work damn hard for with my body and my mind. Does that make me lazy? You be the judge...

    But I can tell you that working on my OWN shit, I will stay awake for 22 out of 24 hours in a day, for days of end, promoting, researching, tweeting, designing, creating, editing, uploading, searching, optimizing, performing, scheduling, recording, mailing, listing, and everything else under the sun to make sure that all of my time works to whose benefit? Mine. And that is NOT lazy. That's indy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellyConnors View Post

    But I can tell you that working on my OWN shit, I will stay awake for 22 out of 24 hours in a day, for days of end, promoting, researching, tweeting, designing, creating, editing, uploading, searching, optimizing, performing, scheduling, recording, mailing, listing, and everything else under the sun to make sure that all of my time works to whose benefit? Mine. And that is NOT lazy. That's indy.
    ha ha...no I understand you 100% as long as you have that mentality...I try to get
    my friends to go indy all the time. But it's like giving a group of 5 year olds a choice
    between a nickel today or a dime tomorrow. They all will take the nickel...maybe
    because it is instant gratification or maybe because the nickel is bigger in size!

    Mentality and motivation is what you need along with vision and foresight. All of
    which you seem to posses. But you said it yourself you will stay awake 22 out of
    24 hours....trust me I know...i have worked many sleepless days because I would
    rather have the money in my pocket then getting 10 to 20% for housing a studio
    where I have to pay rent, internet, equipment, furniture, Tech support and on
    and on not to mention training spanking new models!

    I posted this so that I can show them what it will take to become a success with
    an Indy site...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickvid View Post
    But it's like giving a group of 5 year olds a choice
    between a nickel today or a dime tomorrow. They all will take the nickel...maybe
    because it is instant gratification or maybe because the nickel is bigger in size!
    OMG high-5... this is like... great! Haha PREACH!

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    Ehh, I do think camsites have their place. They market (for example MFC has by far the biggest marketing budget of all, about $6k per day and that is a verifiable FACT), process payments, provide a platform from which to work requiring minimal startup time / investment for models, allow models to help control who sees their profiles/cams (regional blocking), etc. For those who just want to plug in and start making money and don't have the time / knowledge / patience to build their own thing, or who simply want to limit risk of being seen by family/friends, camsites are a perfectly viable and acceptable option.

    But for those willing to put in the work, who have the knowledge or are willing to learn, who have the patience to build, who can afford to be totally public with their business, indy is the way to go.

    It is a matter of personal priorities and choice. There are lots of reasons why camsites are better for some and indy is better for some.

    Personally I use a combo of both. I mainly operate as an independent but I use sites like niteflirt for billing simply because it is easy and allows me to maximize my profit/time. I bring a lot of my own traffic there. I also use other venues to get business - I don't push my own site on any other camsite, but by using the exact same name on all sites, including my url, I make it extremely easy for customers to find me if they want, and plenty do


    As for camsites "controlling" what you can or can't say - they have to. There are legal limits and business reasons which make this necessary. A good camsite has a lot of money invested, so why would they risk it by letting models say or do whatever the hell they want on THEIR sites? I will never understand why girls seem to have such a problem with this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wickvid View Post
    ha ha...no I understand you 100% as long as you have that mentality...I try to get
    my friends to go indy all the time. But it's like giving a group of 5 year olds a choice
    between a nickel today or a dime tomorrow. They all will take the nickel...maybe
    because it is instant gratification or maybe because the nickel is bigger in size!

    ...
    You are wrong - Not ALL the kids will take the nickel at all . In fact the infamous marshmallow test ( first carried out in the 60s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX_oy9614HQ ) , did in fact prove that the kids who waited the 15 minutes to get 2 marshmallows instead of eating 1 marshmallow in the 15 minute wait - 20 years later were proven to be higher achievers, and generally doing better in life......... I understand this isn't the place for a psychology debate, but your fact was not a fact



    As human beings , we're mixed , some will sacrifice ''instant gratification'' after rationally considering the benefits gained post wait

    ( and the very nature of this thread proves that some of us are willing to do that )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukmissy View Post
    As human beings , we're mixed , some will sacrifice ''instant gratification'' after rationally considering the benefits gained post wait

    ( and the very nature of this thread proves that some of us are willing to do that )
    This. Thanks, again for acknowledging that it was really no accident that I should pursue this path. I obviously worked hard when I was a beginning cam-girl enough to know that should I work harder, I'll gain more (and ultimately have to work less) in the long run.

    I also believe this isn't an either/or scenario. Like I said, originally, I can always cam wherever I want on various sites and I will. I just don't have to, anymore. That's the essence of indy-camming to me. I can take or leave absolutely any option because I can still work, regardless of the platform. The platform is mine now. Sure, that wasn't a huge benefit to me when I first started. But now it is.

    The best thing about this path is I'm so close to being totally confident in defining my own terms and being able to negotiate to my benefit. I can afford to turn down sites and offers from customers and I do, quite often. I love this. I love knowing I can work as much or as little as I'd like and the results are completely in my control.
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    Strongbox is the shit, and Ray is a super nice guy. Extremely helpful. He will install and test it for you and is always available if you have issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukmissy View Post
    You are wrong - Not ALL the kids will take the nickel at all . In fact the infamous marshmallow test ( first carried out in the 60s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX_oy9614HQ ) , did in fact prove that the kids who waited the 15 minutes to get 2 marshmallows instead of eating 1 marshmallow in the 15 minute wait - 20 years later were proven to be higher achievers, and generally doing better in life......... I understand this isn't the place for a psychology debate, but your fact was not a fact



    As human beings , we're mixed , some will sacrifice ''instant gratification'' after rationally considering the benefits gained post wait

    ( and the very nature of this thread proves that some of us are willing to do that )
    Ok well...you still understand the point I was trying to make.

    Maybe it's just that I hear a lot of models complain about the money they are not
    making but they never change things...they continue to do the same old routine
    week after week month after month...

    They say...you can't continue doing the same things and expect different results!

    Besides humans as a whole do we gravitate towards instant gratification or
    or are we willing to wait...the webcam business as a whole is based on instant
    gratification...guys join the site or logon cuz they want it and want it now...please
    don't argue that one!

    Models jump online to work cams because they know they have to work 9 to 5.
    They know they will only get a set dollar amount for the work they put in. They
    know they have to study hard and work many years before they can make decent
    money. Strippers do it for the same reasons...right!

    On both sides members and models....it is about instant gratification....not that
    there is anything wrong with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuliaSands View Post
    Strongbox is the shit, and Ray is a super nice guy. Extremely helpful. He will install and test it for you and is always available if you have issues.
    Their support is amazing. I want to tell them to increase their yearly support contract charge. They have been invaluable to me. Support for $39 a year is ridiculously good value for money.

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    @wickvid

    its so true though, look at how many people are signed on for daily pay just for the sake of instant money? it may only be 6% but damn 6% of my monthly income pays most of my bills besides rent!!!

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    @wickvid

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