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    I've always worked at clubs where the bouncers collect the money for you before you do dances or champagne rooms. Started at a new club where you have to collect your own money? What are good things to say to get them to pay up front? Pay for multiple dances? Tip?

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    Default Re: Collecting money before dances

    I also recently worked at a club where I had to collect my own money for dances and for being bought off the list (they didn't have a VIP/Champagne room per se'). We had to pay the club upfront when we got off the list so that was easy I just told the customer the policy by saying something like "Lets get the business out of the way so we can relax and enjoy our hour; it's the club policy, anyway".

    As for dances; most of the time I just used the "club policy" line to get paid for the 1st dance upfront, then if the customer was getting multiple dances I'd stop every 2-3 songs to collect and make it seem like I was "trusting" them by not making them pay before EVERY song. I always found it to be a tricky balancing act between not breaking the mood yet making sure I got paid.

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    I recently got ripped off by trying to do repeat dances in the style mentioned on these forums. I didn't want to break the mood by getting money before each repeat, so I asked if he wanted to do another, and another, then I told him when we'd done 2 more, does he want to carry on. "Oh was that not just one??"

    Anyways after that I suggest we continue as usual, get close and start dancing then just put on a feisty attitude and say something like "get us another 10 out then baby and I'll keep going" *boobs* It's working pretty well- and much better than trying to deal with young scumbags like this! They like it when you tell them what to do, and I've read that men enjoy the act of handing over money more than the dances, like it makes them feel superior or something. Not sure how true that one is though!

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    Ohhhhh YEAH!!! Thanks Smeca, I should have added that disclaimer to my post, as well....ALWAYS get money upfront for EVERY dance from young scumbag type guys. The odds are way higher of them trying to get out of paying for all the dances or trying to "negotiate" a lower price if you even give them 1 song w/out the money first.

    I try not to complain, be negative, or stereo type a "general" type...but seriously, I get the impression sometimes that it's a game to the young douchey type guys to see if they can rip off the entertainers. Grrrrrrr!!! lol!!

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    Yeah not everyone's the same, but I don't really like the youngish ones that come out in packs, you have to know how to deal with them to make much money. The quieter ones can be broke time wasters or absolute sweethearts!

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    The bouncers don't keep track at this place, it's up to you to do so. I'd rather avoid getting into any arguments over songs and money and have it all paid up front. I'm soooo not used to having to collect my own money! I like the club policy thing, though.

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    Default Re: Collecting money before dances

    The only time I EVER collect money up front is if it's a CR, and I'm not 100% confident they really have the cash.
    In which case I just tell them that the club makes me collect up front. OR, if it's night time and ALL the CR's are closed and there's a wait, I tell them I need to collect the money to reserve the room.

    I've never collected up front for dances, and NEVER stopped to get money inbetween dances... so I have no advice about how to collect up front there... except maybe to do the same thing and just say that it's club policy and encourage them to keep their wallet out/on the table in the booth so it's easier to get to when they need to grab another $20 and keep going.
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    Default Re: Collecting money before dances

    "Business before play," seems to be a favorite.
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    The only time I ever collect upfront for a dance is if I'm suspicious that they don't have enough money, or if I've stacked a few hundred dollars on them already. It really depends on the situation and the feeling I get from the customer, but since asking for money in the middle of dancing completely ruins the mood I try and do it as little as possible. I just make the customer aware of how many songs we are doing so that there's no surprise at the end. I've very rarely had a problem with someone not having money to pay at the end. More often then that, I've gotten suspicious and asked the custie to pay upfront or after several dances (in the nicest way possible of course) and ended up not selling as much as I could have if I hadn't demanded the money beforehand.

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    ^Yeah... once you've gotten enough money from them already that you're starting to worry about them hitting the limit on their CC it's time to start collecting up front.
    Usually then what I do is, while he's getting money from the LAST CR, suggest he just go ahead and grab the cash for the NEXT one, too... then after that one, since he's already in the habit of going to the ATM in between each CR, you just walk over to it after the dance like you have been and you've wordlessly transitioned into being payed up front.
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    Default Re: Collecting money before dances

    The one time I didn't collect money upfront I got burnt, never again! I always roll with variations of the 'business before pleasure' line, and make it sound like I'm doing them a favor by being so highly organized. When customers extend I get the money up front too, telling them it's so we can both keep track of what's been paid for.

    At my current venue private shows are paid for at a counter before proceeding into the dance area, this is really helpful because I can always use management as an excuse to get money upfront if the guy is being a little difficult.

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    I work at a club now that all they will do is kick the guy out if he stiffs you. It has actually only happened to me twice in my entire dancing career and only in South. First guy was club regular and he ran up a $1200 with 3 diff girls. He maxed his ATM and card limits earlier in the night. We each got as much as we could and seeing how his base was down the street we knew he was good for it. Very next day he called at 10am wanting to know where to meet to pay me. The other guy was a young dbag who bought two paid for first and then thought he got a freebie pulled the ATM broke thing with me. I waited until I saw him go to ATM again and when he took money out I snatched $40 and left. He started to follow me and I yelled "You left your card in machine". He immediately turned away.

    Now I peep in wallet when they pay waitress for drinks to get an idea of cash on hand and what kind of cards they have. I'll do a max of 2 before I collect from a new customer after I've peeped the wallet funds and depending on how much cash they have on hand I'll either continue to get payment every few dances or wait til end. Club regulars don't have to go through this with me. Also, old men who buy strings of dances can always pay me at the end.
    Thank Goodness I smartened up! The old me is dead and gone.

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    I don't get the money up front for dances, but I make sure the customer is clear on the price of each song before we start and I always ask after a song ends if he wants to do one more and I keep count.

    again, MAKE SURE HE IS CLEAR. speak loudly and clearly and say "just so you know, the dances are x dollars a song, ok?" and DON'T start dancing until he says "ok" and repeat yourself if necessary. some assholes try to pull that whole "I didn't know it was that much!!!" at the end of the dance.

    use your intuition. if you get the feeling a guy's not gonna pay you, ask for the money up front.

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