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    Quote Originally Posted by sexandgrammar View Post
    I read the whole thing, babe. Where I come from, we cite our sources. But that's besides the point.

    It is naive to think that we as cam-girls will not be recorded. Hell, we record ourselves--and sell the clips! Yes, in a vacuum, webcam work is legal--it is as legal as peepshow work is. But that is not taking into account the medium, and its dissemination.
    I have been in this business longer than you have, sweetie. I know what I am talking about. I don't need anyone to tell me webcam modeling if it's legal or not. I made my comment and you started with your rudeness. The point of the whole thread : Is webcam modeling legal? Yes. If you're stupid enough to fuck an animal or cam in front of your kid then you deserve to be arrested. Nuff said.

    .. and that was my point.

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    Oh and naive to think that we won't be recorded? Like I said "sexandgrammar", I have been in this business a long time. That is why I have joked many times that there is no need to make videos of myself and sell when there are millions of them out there already. Heck I was just telling Camwhore that today. Where did I say we weren't being recorded?

    No point in debating with you, seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    In general, performing on a webcam
    from your home is 100% legal in all 50 states and worldwide; as
    long as the performer is over the age of 18. Whereas, "modeling"
    for adult videos and photos at any age is NOT. The production of
    sexually explicit movies, videos and photography... as far as the
    USA is concerned... is only legal in the state of California. In all
    other states, it is illegal.
    <---Dying of laughter!

    Performing masturbation on a webcam is modeling for adult videos & photos. When you sign up do do web cam work you are presented with a contract that states that your "performaces" may be recorded and distributed.

    The act of recording for distrubtion is production.
    The product being produced is pornagraphic material.
    The production of pornagraphic material for disturbution is not legal in 48 states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkerBee View Post
    <---Dying of laughter!

    Performing masturbation on a webcam is modeling for adult videos & photos. When you sign up do do web cam work you are presented with a contract that states that your "performaces" may be recorded and distributed.

    The act of recording for distrubtion is production.
    The product being produced is pornagraphic material.
    The production of pornagraphic material for disturbution is not legal in 48 states.
    and I still stick by everything I have posted.

    By the way, Those were not my words. I should have made that clear.
    I did a quick google search. A lot of people don't agree with you.


    Dying of laughter now? I can post more resources if you want. That's just a page someone threw together.

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    Default Re: Is webcam modeling really legal in the usa?

    some quick googling:

    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Adult-Fil...legal-only.htm

    if you're concerned speak with your lawyer

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    And for those that think a D.A. will never touch this.

    Remember, it wasn't too long ago that salvia was "unknown" and legal.
    As soon as word got out politicians made it a priority.

    What's going to be the downfall of webcamming is that underage girls do perform, sex slaves in 3rd countries are made to perform, and the cam companies do nothing to prevent this. Street smart (aka, criminally aware) girls who don't want to leave a paper trail get a fake ID made and take a screen shot. Teens and pimps do this all the time and there is no stopping it.

    YOU CAN NOT VALIDATE WITH A SCREEN SHOT IF AN ID IS AUTHENTIC.

    People don't get real jobs with screen shots.
    People can't get bank accounts with screen shots.
    People can't shoot porn with screen shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    some quick googling:



    if you're concerned speak with your lawyer
    Hey, That's my attorney for escorting! He helped remove my pictures from a site that I did not give authorization. Geisha diaries also uses him. Dan pepper knows his stuff. Very adult friendly. I will call him and ask him more about this. Good idea. I never thought it could be an issue but I'm sure I have nothing to worry about.

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    well that's pleasantly surprising! I figured I was being a smartass & was expecting to get bitched at lol!

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    Hahaha I'm Canadian suckas! It's aaaall good north of the border. Well, unless you're in Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan hates strippers. But that's why the rest of the country hates Saskatchewan, so boo on them. My point being, you should all just move to Canada and then you won't even have to worry about thus anymore !

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    well that's pleasantly surprising! I figured I was being a smartass & was expecting to get bitched at lol!
    Oh no. He has been there for us big time. He's the guy we go to when we run into legal trouble, some chick/website steals our pictures, anything and Dan knows! Awesome link!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    Hahaha I'm Canadian suckas! It's aaaall good north of the border. Well, unless you're in Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan hates strippers. But that's why the rest of the country hates Saskatchewan, so boo on them. My point being, you should all just move to Canada and then you won't even have to worry about thus anymore !

    ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH! CANADIANS!!!!!!

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    Whoa whoa whoooooah! Girl you better back up off me with that rolling pin. Canada is AWESOME. it's ok to be jealous. I mean, between stronger beer, relaxed sex laws, and everyone being super friendly I can see why being stuck on the lame side of the border would make you cranky. Want a hug? You look like you need some Tim Hortons hot chocolate. *HUGS!*

    (hopefully the jokeing tone in my voice translated. Except about Tim Hortons. You don't joke about Tim Hortons)

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    She trying to trap me with hot chocolate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    You know you waaaaant it!

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    Hey, it's all good. I saw an episode of CSI Miami where the backdrop took place at some wharehouse being used as a studio for adult webcams, and it was just "accepted" as part of the adult entertainment world.

    2257 SHOULD be used to track-down a model that L E suspects is under age, but the reality is that FBI agents just go around making sure adult companies have records that are in complience with the law (and as far as I know, haven't even been doing much of that lately). The IRS could only go after cam sites with an office in the States, but wouldn't need to if those sites were sending out 1099-MISC every year.

    The only danger is some pain in the ass neighbor that finds what you do and has deep moral objections, getting the local community all in a tissy over it, which puts pressure on local government that could actually care less. Actually, the perfect example would be some kind of "born again" type like WorkerBee :p

    As for the whole "production" thing, it's the sites that claim the right to record your live stream, and have ownership over it, so technically THEY have to comply with such laws, not the models.

    Final thought: There is not going to be a crack-down on adult entertainment, and the effort required just to get a few guys that pirate adult DVD's is just the snowflake on the tip of the iceburg. So stop with the hate. Stop trying to convert. And WorkerBee, stop thinking your going to put everyone on the right path by pushing them over or knocking them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slab4508 View Post

    The only danger is some pain in the ass neighbor that finds what you do and has deep moral objections, getting the local community all in a tissy over it, which puts pressure on local government that could actually care less. Actually, the perfect example would be some kind of "born again" type like WorkerBee :p

    As for the whole "production" thing, it's the sites that claim the right to record your live stream, and have ownership over it, so technically THEY have to comply with such laws, not the models.

    Final thought: There is not going to be a crack-down on adult entertainment, and the effort required just to get a few guys that pirate adult DVD's is just the snowflake on the tip of the iceburg. So stop with the hate. Stop trying to convert. And WorkerBee, stop thinking your going to put everyone on the right path by pushing them over or knocking them down.

    AMEN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    Whoa whoa whoooooah! Girl you better back up off me with that rolling pin. Canada is AWESOME. it's ok to be jealous. I mean, between stronger beer, relaxed sex laws, and everyone being super friendly I can see why being stuck on the lame side of the border would make you cranky. Want a hug? You look like you need some Tim Hortons hot chocolate. *HUGS!*

    (hopefully the jokeing tone in my voice translated. Except about Tim Hortons. You don't joke about Tim Hortons)
    Tim Hortons FRENCH VANILLA
    it just cures all problems

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    2257 SHOULD be used to track-down a model that L E suspects is under age,
    --->and thats mean nothing if the information is forged or stored on an offshore harddrive

    but the reality is that FBI agents just go around making sure adult companies have records that are in complience with the law (and as far as I know, haven't even been doing much of that lately).
    ----in states where production of porn is legal

    The IRS could only go after cam sites with an office in the States, but wouldn't need to if those sites were sending out 1099-MISC every year.
    ---->Who said anything about the IRS? Doesn't matter if you pay taxes on illegally obtained money or not. Wire fraud is still a felony.

    The only danger is some pain in the ass neighbor that finds what you do and has deep moral objections, getting the local community all in a tissy over it,
    ---->the internet is one huge neighborhood and news travels fast

    Actually, the perfect example would be some kind of "born again" type like WorkerBee :p
    ---->I'm not born again. I'm not Christian. And I'm not putting on the cape trying to save anyone.

    As for the whole "production" thing, it's the sites that claim the right to record your live stream, and have ownership over it, so technically THEY have to comply with such laws, not the models.
    ---->Participation puts you in violation of state and federal law. Do you think you could participate in cooking crack but not be procecuted because you didn't sell it?

    Im not trying to put anyone on any path.
    A question was asked.
    I answered it.

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    LOL, can we back up? Why I got to be accused of putting on the cape? I'm very pro-sex work. I believe it all should be legal. I've never dissed anyone for how they choose to make money. Someone asked about the LEGALITY of webcamming not MORALITY.

    Some people are getting the two confused.

    If anything this thread should have dropped some serious knowledge on how to cover your azz. You can either move to where it is legal and not worry about being caught or erase your paper trail and hope you don't get caught, and work independently as so not to be affiliated with cam companies who violate child pornagraphy, sex trafficking, and wire fraud laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leyla2 View Post
    Tim Hortons FRENCH VANILLA
    it just cures all problems
    I'm addited to the fritters, both apple and blueberry. And the caramel lattes. A Tim Hortons apple fritter and Carmel latte would have everyone on this thread holding hands and singing kumbayah.

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    ... hahah. I've been under the impression that it's illegal. Of course, my homestate is Texas, where buttsex is still illegal and you can still correct your wife. Like the post above, sorry on my phone so I can't credit you, dildo sales are illegal, so when you buy a dildo, it's listed as a "novelty" or "cake topper".

    So I imagine daily I commit more crimes than I care to know.

    I remember this argument before, and the consensus was illegal, with a few bright spots of obvious denial. This time it seems to be mixed. I imagine the next time it will be full of nos.

    I lived in a town in central texas where strippers were arrested for prostitution, described as sexual contact in exchange for money... because her ass touched the copper's lap. A porn store person got arrested for describing a DVD as hardcore, which apparently violated obscenity laws.

    .... I'm babbling, but I'm just trying to share the thought of laws being interpreted by people, so depending on who interprets it, you could be commiting a crime.

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    Pornlaw has weighed in. Perhaps Pepperlaw will now as well? Regardless of how the general public interprets the law, I think it's important to know if it's technically legal or illegal. Don't you? Technically, it sounds as if it's illegal in almost every US state. I did the research too, and it seems pretty cut and dried. Or am I missing something?

    Realistically, it doesn't seem to be a problem right now. But that doesn't mean it won't ever be in the future. Personally, I'd rather know the law and see it coming, rather than be blindsided by it.

    Breeze

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolBreeze View Post
    Personally, I'd rather know the law and see it coming, rather than be blindsided by it.
    Precisely. I'll be in the stacks reading up instead of trying to reckon with TG's flash-in-the-pan rhetoric.

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    Oh Canada!

    Touche, Arialandre you are too funny. Canada is much more relaxed about stuff like this from the research I've done.

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    I really don't webcam well at least not nude and certainly no penetration since I am a Femme Domme. I also live outside of NY city, so I highly doubt anyone is going to come knocking on my door with a warrant, when they are murdering prostitutes all along Long Island.

    That said I would LOVE to be the one to take this issue to the Supreme Court. The two women who are bit over zealous in my opinion,(Thou doest protest to much?) are technically correct about pornography.

    I would love to argue how this could be significant enough to waste money and law enforcement time on such nonsense. You see the war on drugs is profitable to the US, the war on pornography not so much. So until your making a shitload of money that the government can steal from you in their war on obscenity I think individuals are safe. And these huge cam sites I am sure have teams lawyers skirting the law for all of us to have the right to get naked!!!!

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