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    I just watched AspenRae and Jaclyn on MFC! Each of them just made over £300 in ONE HOUR!!!! Aspen is now on around £500. Each had over 1800 people in their room. Very different approaches, one totally relaxed, chatting about rock music, the other going for it, but the same result. It was awesome!! I must say i can see the appeal of MFC now.

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    HOW do they get to the point where so many people are in their room, they're on the first page (first positions even), and the tips are so big and so fast??? Is it even worth it if you're not on the first page?
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    MFC and the most successful models are an enigma. No one will ever crack the code of why certain models make $20,000 per month and certain models can't even make $20. Certain MFC models are hot and entertaining and make pennies; some look like crackheads and just chat and make hundreds per night. Isn't it fascinating? I still wonder who gets the fake tips from themselves and their studio managers and who gets real tips from real guys.
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    Yeah well I guess if you're making that much per month it's easy to funnel it back into your own tips and thereby keep the camscore high and the money coming

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    The top 20 girls up near the very top make over $50,000 a month. It's insane!

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    LOL!

    Let's be real here. If anyone's making that kind of money webcamming and they're still webcamming and haven't retired on some exclusive Island somewhere after months/years of 50k a month then they have issues. I'm not buying it. If it were me I would have left the industry. Buy a few homes, invest in a non-adult busines, have a few kids and be sitting pretty in my mansion happy as can be.... wait.. I thought that was the goal here? no? hmmmm...

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    ^^A non-adult business is certainly my goal!! I already have the child

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    $50k a month? Thats like $500/hr for part time work (25hrs/week) as an average when most other models are getting a $35-$50/hr. If they are getting that from just a few members who tip hundreds of bucks at a time, the site needs to be worried about being shut-down if investigated for money laundering activities. Hope they are pro-active about that, and have some kind of policy in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie Evers View Post

    HOW do they get to the point where so many people are in their room, they're on the first page (first positions even), and the tips are so big and so fast??? Is it even worth it if you're not on the first page?
    Because many of them have promotional teams behind them, pulling in their traffic from the outside eg. Aspen. Therefore, a certain portion of her cut will go straight to them.

    It is sometimes misleading to look at the top MFC girls and their earnings, because so much of it is not how it appears. Gone are the days when you can climb your way up there the straight forward way- and yes, I do remember those days lol. Further, the girls I know got up there that way have slowly dropped down a little, gradually in the last year. It's not without exception, just that the general trend for the top girls is very different now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolejess View Post
    The top 20 girls up near the very top make over $50,000 a month. It's insane!
    and exactly how do you know this?? proof please

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    LOL!

    Let's be real here. If anyone's making that kind of money webcamming and they're still webcamming and haven't retired on some exclusive Island somewhere after months/years of 50k a month then they have issues. I'm not buying it. If it were me I would have left the industry. Buy a few homes, invest in a non-adult busines, have a few kids and be sitting pretty in my mansion happy as can be.... wait.. I thought that was the goal here? no? hmmmm...
    TouringGirlfriend, I believe some girls do make that kind of money. The problem is they may not be saving, and spending their money wisely. I think a lot of camgirls would see the fruit of their labor if they budget, save, and know where the money is going. I know it seems unreal that people make that much and still sit on cam everyday, but it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCummings View Post
    and exactly how do you know this?? proof please
    LOL I sometimes wonder where people get this info from. I swear I am not trying to be a hater but 50k a month?
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    ^ I for one get this stuff from AmberCutie's forums, on which at least half of the regular top 20 girls post regularly. But take that with a grain of salt

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    Does anyone know who AspenRae's promoter is? I want to jump on that wagon lol I wish I had a promoter

    p.s. to the OP: you might want to edit the title of this thread and put MFC in it, it may attract more valuable contributors that way and it will be easier for newbies to find this is in the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by BustyAmeera View Post
    TouringGirlfriend, I believe some girls do make that kind of money. The problem is they may not be saving, and spending their money wisely. I think a lot of camgirls would see the fruit of their labor if they budget, save, and know where the money is going. I know it seems unreal that people make that much and still sit on cam everyday, but it happens.
    I want to see paycheck stubs. I want to see payoneer receipts. DevonSantos (a member here on sw!) is one of the top earners on Ifriends and MFC and she has even said that a lot of the tips come from girls tipping themselves. When you are making 50k a month it is very easy to funnel that money back into the system. I'm calling BS but If that is what the majority of the ladies here wants to think then let them think that but it has been said several times that the MFC system can be easily manipulated.

    You just said it yourself here:

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    LOL I sometimes wonder where people get this info from. I swear I am not trying to be a hater but 50k a month?
    Unbelievable isn't it?
    20k a month? I can see that coming from someone that has no life, no kids and sits on cam all day maybe or wait let's be nice.. someone that just doesn't have an SO or kids. Maybe it's doable but to say that someone is making 50k a month and they're not saving it? I am guessing that person is mentally challenged (the millionaire). I'm sorry but that's just as real as it gets. Let me make 100k in two months camming, I bet you 10k that I won't cam anymore or post on sw anymore. I'm 21 and my goal is to retire from this business and sit pretty with my 10 kids in 5 years. Give me 50k a month and it'll happen sooner than that I betcha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    I want to see paycheck stubs. I want to see payoneer receipts. DevonSantos (a member here on sw!) is one of the top earners on Ifriends and MFC and she has even said that a lot of the tips come from girls tipping themselves. When you are making 50k a month it is very easy to funnel that money back into the system. I'm calling BS but If that is what the majority of the ladies here wants to think then let them think that but it has been said several times that the MFC system can be easily manipulated.

    You just said it yourself here:



    Unbelievable isn't it?
    20k a month? I can see that coming from someone that has no life, no kids and sits on cam all day maybe or wait let's be nice.. someone that just doesn't have an SO or kids. Maybe it's doable but to say that someone is making 50k a month and they're not saving it? I am guessing that person is mentally challenged (the millionaire). I'm sorry but that's just as real as it gets. Let me make 100k in two months camming, I bet you 10k that I won't cam anymore or post on sw anymore. I'm 21 and my goal is to retire from this business and sit pretty with my 10 kids in 5 years. Give me 50k a month and it'll happen sooner than that I betcha!
    ...I dunno. I can kind of believe it after watching the top 20 girls in envy for a couple of months, and going on the ambercutie forum.
    OP said that Aspen made £500 in just over a hour. So lets suppose she does that every day. That's £8000 every pay period (2 weeks) which is £16,000 per month. That is in £ not $. So that's what....$26,000 per month. And that's supposing that Aspen only goes on for an hour every day, which she doesn't, she stays on for a fair amount longer and does lots of groupshows and occasionally arranged privates. She also does a lot of offline promotions like pictures for sale, panties for sale AND she hooks up with a lot of other MFC top 20 girls and does g/g shows with them. Which would pull in even more money, I have absoloutly no problem believing that she can make $50, 000 a month.

    If you watch her, she makes a 2000 token countdown to naked, and does it in blocks of '500 for bra off' etc to make it seem smaller...and it will take her about 15 minutes to reach countdown, soemtimes less. It's not that hard if you are number 1 on the page and have thousands of people in your room.

    One of the models wrote on Ambers forum that the month she made top 20, she made around $50, 000, however, she didn't get to keep all of it. A lot of it had to be paid to the other models who she had done g/g shows with, also she had bought things like shirts and calanders and ipods filled with pictures of her and other mechandise to raffle off. I think she said she was left with about half.

    I definitely believe that self tipping DOES go on, but I honestly doubt that SOME of the girls need it. People like Aspen are so popular because she's cool and chatty, shes BEAUTIFUL, she's slim and young and fresh looking, has a banging body, a good cam set up, good lighting and mirrors etc...and most of all... she just got really lucky.
    She was online talking about her first day the other day, and some of the members were talkig about how they had rained down with tips when she first came on because they wanted her to feel loved.

    Haha i'm gonna stop now cos it just looks like I'm a massive Aspen cheerleader/stalker. Which I kind of am. She's just so...sunny.

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    A lot of the top MFC girls say they are in college/university too, plus a lot of them own their own houses, so mortgages and expensive college fee's PLUS wanting to save are a good reasos to keep camming.

    Plus, a lot of the cam girls who ARE in top 20, have only been camming a year, or little over a year, the ones I can think of anyway, with the exception of Candie Cane who I think has been doing it for 2 years. And presumably some of them wernt Miss MFC from the word go, so there would be some building up to it.

    I dunno. If I was getting $50,000 a month (before tax and other payments)and it wasn't getting in the way of my life too much...I'd definitely continue longer than a year! Why give up if theres more to be made? At least work for 5 years then retire.

    Hahaha. I know it seems unbeliveable and yeah I believe there is a remarkable amount of self tipping that goes on with some models and some shady as hell studios. But as much as my jealous, $200 dollar-a-day-if-im lucky- ass would love to believe that no one is making THAT much money without some shady behaviour, I think a small proportion of the top 20 definitely are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamofluxie View Post

    I definitely believe that self tipping DOES go on, but I honestly doubt that SOME of the girls need it. People like Aspen are so popular because she's cool and chatty, shes BEAUTIFUL, she's slim and young and fresh looking, has a banging body, a good cam set up, good lighting and mirrors etc...and most of all... she just got really lucky.
    She was online talking about her first day the other day, and some of the members were talkig about how they had rained down with tips when she first came on because they wanted her to feel loved.

    Haha i'm gonna stop now cos it just looks like I'm a massive Aspen cheerleader/stalker. Which I kind of am. She's just so...sunny.
    I've been in this business long enough to know that sometimes you have to fake it before you make it. I am not saying that they don't get big tips. I am saying that those girls are not making 50k a month. I am saying that I want to see proof. I am also saying that if such is happening then the majority of the tips are fake. We have had top earners from MFC attest to this here on sw.

    I also never said the girls weren't HOT. There is one girl that could make a man cum by just opening her mouth. Her voice is that sexy and she looks damn good (forgot her name/I don't stare too long). I'm sure she makes a killing but 50k a month? and she's been on MFC for a year and half now? C'mon now. You'd be silly not to save that money and get out of the industry.

    Let's get back to the whole faking it to make it thing: Fem dommes do it all the time. Some will claim a slave bought them a car or sent them 10k. Not saying that it doesn't happen but a lot of them fake it before they make it. I have friends that are online fem dommes so I'm not talking out of my ass here. It's very easy to fake anything on the internet just like SOME of the tips are fake on MFC! I am friends with one of the top girls on MFC and she makes 15k a month. A bad month to her is 8-10k. Even she has admitted to tipping herself to get the room going and she's super HOTTTTTT! Hello??!!

    Again.. there is no point convincing me. I am stubborn, hard-headed but I give props when it's needed. Ava alexander? I really admire her! She makes me laugh. I can see her making a killing but 50k a month? I am sure ava would have gotten out of the business a long time ago. Just saying.

    Then again.. maybe there are those people that say "Fuck retiring, I want to cam until I am 90!" or "Fuck this, camming is my dreamjob". See I'd understand that. However, it's sad to be beautiful and not have other goals than camming. If you're one of those people, not really much to say. Good luck! Like I said, this ain't my dreamjob and I'm sure that's not the case for everyone here. When I have my boutique in an upscale neighborhood with people buying MY wedding dresses? I'll be happy. Fucking myself on cam is not the meaning of "the life" for me though i love it and it's a very easy job.

    Now when one of you ladies here get that lovely 20k paycheck PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Prove me wrong by sending me a picture. I would love to see. I'm a realist sowwy!
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    One more thing kiddos:

    I am also pretty HOT and make damn good money doing what I do. I have worn several titles in this industry and have seen 16k a month (not camming). My biggest pay day lately has been $487 camming. When I get online I put on my game face and cam my heart out. My bills are 4k so I don't have to make 20-30k a month. Two years ago $500 a day was nothing for me to make on cam. Just stay on until you make your goal right? Well 2 years ago, I was also childless so I had a lot of time on my hands. Now If I told you I made $500 a day everyday I'd be lying but I use as heck came very close to it yesterday .

    Edit: For those of you that don't save, I sure as hell hope nothing happens to you physically and you are unable to cam. Good businesswomen save and get out of the business. When you are making "50k a month" and you're not saving .. you have a problem. Camming is not supposed to be a long term career unless you want it to be. It's supposed to get you from one point to the next. Don't tell me when you were a little girl you dreamed of fucking yourself a cam for money. Can't be. If you did then, Hats of to you for finding your dreamjob but for me? not the case.
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    Why is everyone assuming that these girls aren't saving or making wise financial decisions? If I could make 20K-50K per month, I wouldn't cam for two months and quit! I'd ride it out as long as I could until I either 1) reached a particular financial goal (let's say 250K - 500K), 2) Got completely burnt out from camming and decided to quit, 3) Lost my popularity on the site.

    To those saying that 20K-50K a month for the top models is BS, I'd recommend you browse the AmberCutie forums (the models only forum in particular), where the mechanics of the top 20 are broken down in terms of camscore and earnings. Models in that forum aren't bragging saying "Oh look at all this money I made!" but they're bringing information to light.

    If you still aren't convinced, turn on MFC, watch one of the top models perform a full shift and try to count all the tokens she earns. Most likely, you won't be able to keep up. There have been MANY MANY times I've turned on MFC, spied on a model for an hour and watched her earn over $1000. If $1000/hr isn't all that uncommon, then you can see how $50K/mo is do-able.

    I'm not saying that some of them don't tip themselves, but from my understanding it's mostly studio models / Romanians who do that. And yeah, some of those models are on MFC for 10-12 hours per day, so it does take a big commitment.

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    ^^ This. Just because I'm not hot enough/appealing enough/lucky enough/have enough business sense to be in that bracket, I can't claim everyone who is is necessarily a scammer or a liar.

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    I never assumed anything. Another member here said the girls probably didn't save so.. I took that comment and ran with it.

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    If you still aren't convinced, turn on MFC, watch one of the top models perform a full shift and try to count all the tokens she earns. Most likely, you won't be able to keep up. There have been MANY MANY times I've turned on MFC, spied on a model for an hour and watched her earn over $1000. If $1000/hr isn't all that uncommon, then you can see how $50K/mo is do-able.
    I did. I am not. Funny thing is my friend doesn't work for a studio and her husband has a customer account, comes in her room and gets the tipping started and voila.. it works like a charm. Each and every single time! So you really believe it's just romanian studos? keep believing that love. Seems a lot of you ladies put too much faith in MFC. The system there is really deceiving. It is all about the packaging. I am not saying the models there DON'T bank. I am saying.. all the glitters ain't really GOLD .. literally. Now there's no need debating about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyRose View Post
    ^^ This. Just because I'm not hot enough/appealing enough/lucky enough/have enough business sense to be in that bracket, I can't claim everyone who is is necessarily a scammer or a liar.
    First of all, I am not on MFC. I do not work there. I repeat, I am not on MFC. I do not need mfc to "bank". I AM hot enough/appealing enough/have enough business sense to make that kind of money but for what do I need 50k a month for? I do not have 10-12 hours to put into camming a day. Oh wait.. and I also have a life outside of camming. Oh wait.. and I also don't want to exploit myself for free in hopes of tokens or a big tipper. That concept doesn't seems a little fucked up to anyone here? Guess not. Lol! I guess I am in the minority. It seems a lot of you ladies feel you need MFC to make big bucks... think again loves. Sorry for discrediting your precious MFC .

    I have also said I don't need convincing. If you want to work there, go and work there. If you want to start threads about your favorite MFC models praising their work ethic, start the threads. You can't tell me that most of those tips are not scams. You cannot. My own girlfriend has admitted to her hubby tipping her to "get things started". DevonSantos has also said it here herself. Do I need to find that link? Nuff said.

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    TouringGirlfriend, I wasn't talking specifically to you. I was speaking in general, and not praising MFC, because I don't work there, either, so I have no reason to consider it anything special. I was just saying that just because I am not making that kind of money, I cannot assume the possibility of someone else making that kind of money doesn't exist.

    Also, you wouldn't work 10 hours a day for 50 grand? I sure as heck would. Also, I get it. You're HOT. You mention it in every other post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    I want to see paycheck stubs. I want to see payoneer receipts. DevonSantos (a member here on sw!) is one of the top earners on Ifriends and MFC and she has even said that a lot of the tips come from girls tipping themselves. When you are making 50k a month it is very easy to funnel that money back into the system. I'm calling BS but If that is what the majority of the ladies here wants to think then let them think that but it has been said several times that the MFC system can be easily manipulated.

    You just said it yourself here:



    Unbelievable isn't it?
    20k a month? I can see that coming from someone that has no life, no kids and sits on cam all day maybe or wait let's be nice.. someone that just doesn't have an SO or kids. Maybe it's doable but to say that someone is making 50k a month and they're not saving it? I am guessing that person is mentally challenged (the millionaire). I'm sorry but that's just as real as it gets. Let me make 100k in two months camming, I bet you 10k that I won't cam anymore or post on sw anymore. I'm 21 and my goal is to retire from this business and sit pretty with my 10 kids in 5 years. Give me 50k a month and it'll happen sooner than that I betcha!
    To be honest, I don't believe the majority of what people say here. JUst being honest and not trying to offend anyone here. I think if anyone has the time to always be here and argue or talk shit all day then they cleary are not making money. Let me just clear up what I said a LITTLE. I think it is possible to make $300 to $500 a day. I saw someone make $89 in tips in less than 30 minutes last week, then she went pvt. So no telling how much she made for the hour. If she is online up to 8 hours or more then she probably made 100's.

    Now. Do I believe people make that every single day that they log on for work? Hell no. Being a webcam model is hard even for the the most talented, and you are not going to make that kind of money everyday. Could I be wrong? Maybe. I don't sit around watching pple all the time. So I would not know how much everyone makes. So I just want to make it clear that yes I believe people make that in one day, but I do not believe they make it everyday. I WISH I made good money everytime I log on, but the reality is that I do not. It takes a lot of work and I am building up my business slowly but surely. I am not even going to front and tell yall that I have made $500 in a day because that would be a bold face lie.
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    ^ You're not discrediting "[our] precious MFC." I'm not on MFC, and probably never will be. The hustle doesn't appeal to me. The free chat doesn't appeal to me.

    I can't speak for MistyRose, but I'm actually fairly sure none of us are defending MFC in particular. We're asking that you not discredit super-successful models out the gate, point-blank, just because 50K/month is unfathomable to you. Is it rare? Yes. Did AspenRae get extremely lucky? Also yes.

    But seriously, read around AC a little more, and you'll be inspired (if you have an open mind) by the example set by models like CandieCane, MilaMilanXXX, AmberCutie, and more. None of them "exploit [themselves] in free in hopes of tokens," and to say that they do is really, astoundingly condescending. And paternalistic. It smacks of some woebegone lovechild of the sex-negative feminists and the conservative right.

    In writing workshops, the first word of advice is usually: Write what you know. So, you know, I get that you're just writing what you know, but you're also slandering a whole bunch of smart, hustling chicas whose paychecks speak volumes.

    She wonders how much he'd pay to see her innards, what it is guys think girls are hiding so that they always want to see them in every place.
    - Virginie Despentes,


    All I wanna do is get my pussy sucked / count a million bucks in the back of an armored truck.
    - Lil' Kim, "Suck My Dick"

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