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    Default Would cam models make good spies?

    I bring this up cause during my interview with Monica Foster (who I discovered thanks to SW) when I asked her about how she approached guys to get them to buy lap dances she mentions how she thinks exotic dancers would make ultimate spies and secret agents because they learn so much about people while dancing (ie profiling their customers).

    Here's the section where she talks about it (fyi i linked to the part in the video):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtzWTuXO7-Y#t=04m28s

    This got me thinking... would cam models make good spies? For you cam models out there do you learn a lot about your customers...and in general about people?

    There was another part that stood out to me during the interview as well. Right after she told me about how dancers could be spies she had this nugget of wisdom dropped in:

    Once you've shed your clothes and are brave enough to be naked physically in front of people it does open up a part of you spiritually as well that many men and women are closed off of from ever experiencing.

    I thought that made a lot of sense...have you guys experienced this feeling?

    Would love to hear your thoughts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by benic View Post
    I bring this up cause during my interview with Monica Foster (who I discovered thanks to SW) when I asked her about how she approached guys to get them to buy lap dances she mentions how she thinks exotic dancers would make ultimate spies and secret agents because they learn so much about people while dancing (ie profiling their customers).

    Here's the section where she talks about it (fyi i linked to the part in the video):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtzWTuXO7-Y#t=04m28s

    This got me thinking... would cam models make good spies? For you cam models out there do you learn a lot about your customers...and in general about people?

    There was another part that stood out to me during the interview as well. Right after she told me about how dancers could be spies she had this nugget of wisdom dropped in:
    Once you've shed your clothes and are brave enough to be naked physically in front of people it does open up a part of you spiritually as well that many men and women are closed off of from ever experiencing.
    I thought that made a lot of sense...have you guys experienced this feeling?

    Would love to hear your thoughts...
    Well there is actually a long US and Russian history of escorts/strippers working as spies. (history channel) Usually with the intent of blackmailing the client/poor soul.

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    Default Re: Would cam models make good spies?

    i really dont think that, that would work for camgirls only because there is a void in between (the internet). however it would definitely work for strippers and escorts because there is an intimacy between the customer and the stripper/escort. they are there with the guy physically and get to know them on a more intimate level and of course the guy thinking with his penis will spill anything and everything to the girl, which definitely makes the perfect spy.

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    I love the history channel! I did not know about actual cases of strippers as spies...but it does make sense. I did a quick google search and found this snippet about Mata Hari (courtesty of about.com)

    If asked to name a female spy, probably most people would be able to cite Mata Hari of World War I fame. Her real name was Margaretha Geertruida Zelle McLeod, born in the Netherlands but who posed as an exotic dancer who was supposed to come from India. While there is little doubt about Mata Hari's life as a stripper and a sometimes prostitute, there is actually some controversy about whether she was ever actually a spy. Famous as she was, if she was a spy she was fairly inept at it and she was caught as the result of an informant and executed by France as a spy. It later became known that her accuser was himself a German spy and that her real role was in doubt. Likely she is remembered both for being executed and for having a memorable name and profession.


    makes me wonder about cam models....any spies out there?
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    Yeah I do believe that as a cam model, we're too far removed from the guys to be on that kind of level. The nuances of being able to read body language, facial expression and tone of voice are all key elements that we have no access to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    Yeah I do believe that as a cam model, we're too far removed from the guys to be on that kind of level. The nuances of being able to read body language, facial expression and tone of voice are all key elements that we have no access to.
    What about your private shows? I can understand how things would be more removed in a public show where lots of people are watching...but is a private show more intimate...especially ones where there's two camming? (is that what even happens in a private show? just goes to show how much of a noob I am!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by benic View Post
    What about your private shows? I can understand how things would be more removed in a public show where lots of people are watching...but is a private show more intimate...especially ones where there's two camming? (is that what even happens in a private show? just goes to show how much of a noob I am!)
    well the i think the real reason being is that, it is the internet itself that is in the way of it all. yes camgirls are personal and interactive, but you can never be on that intimate level as you are in person. there is already a distrust cuz the guy already knows that its not just you two together, its you and him and the INTERNET in between. everything on the internet is exposed and open for everyone to see. the guys wouldn't be that dumb.

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    it's true, some men really open up sometimes. I have had a few regulars send me links to their personal FB pages and it really weirded me out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger_belle View Post
    it's true, some men really open up sometimes. I have had a few regulars send me links to their personal FB pages and it really weirded me out!
    What part was it that weirded you out? That he was being too open? And you'd rather keep your distance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger_belle View Post
    it's true, some men really open up sometimes. I have had a few regulars send me links to their personal FB pages and it really weirded me out!

    yea but if he was important enough to have a spy after him, then he wouldnt be stupid enough to spill his guts over the internet where everything is being seen and recorded by everyone and everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benic View Post
    What about your private shows? I can understand how things would be more removed in a public show where lots of people are watching...but is a private show more intimate...especially ones where there's two camming? (is that what even happens in a private show? just goes to show how much of a noob I am!)
    I only ever do private shows... I think Ive done all of 2 group shows in all the years I cammed and hated it, and I dont do the free vid chat either. But yes...being with someone in person and being able to converse with them is way different than being with someone online.

    Ever met someone and with them just standing there not saying a word or doing anything remarkable you get a vibe from them? Either that you feel comfortable talking to them or feel for whatever reason to keep your distance? That vibe is something you cannot get or feel through online/cam...the impression you get is soley through time spent chatting and talking to them.

    And I will say, there are a few guys through the years that I really did grow to connect with after many months and even years of camming with them and we really got to know each other on a level that isnt there with a 10m or half hr cam show...so Im not discounting the vibe that can develop, just saying...being with someone in person is on a whole different level than distant contact.

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    Default Re: Would cam models make good spies?

    Hell I have always thought escorts could make damn good spies/CIA agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouringGirlfriend View Post
    Hell I have always thought escorts could make damn good spies/CIA agents.
    No joke..from all the screening Ive been doing, I think putting Escort on a resume to a PI agency would be a bigger plus than any amount of military/police history. Jeez man the things Im finding out about these guys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    No joke..from all the screening Ive been doing, I think putting Escort on a resume to a PI agency would be a bigger plus than any amount of military/police history. Jeez man the things Im finding out about these guys...
    Exactly! It amazes me sometimes. We need to apply to be lol. I bet they wouldn't mind having some hot ladies on their team .
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    i don't really do privates and spend most of my time in free chat with a group of over 100+ guys. i actually like it better that way. there's a level of impersonality between individuals and more of a group mentality which is better for me cuz i like the more party vibe on cam instead of a one-on-one intimate experience. do i remember all my regulars names? nope, but they dont get mad because we're always in a group setting and you cant blame me for not remembering so many names. i think it actually boosts competition between guys because they see i give more attention to those who spend and they'll tip their way into my heart =)

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    When I worked as an escort, it was amazing how much information men would divulge to me in comparison to what I was telling them. They'd tell me all about their jobs, stress, wives...ugh I don't miss that shit!
    I thought it wouldn't be the same when I started dancing because a lot of guys have a different persona in the club, but little did I know...

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    No. Guys worth spying on aren't stupid enough to spill their guts to some random girl on the Internet.

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    Demi, That's what they were paying you for... .

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    No!! Camgirls wouldn't make good spies/ Secret agents. than any other occupation.


    They work from behind a pc screen. Catering to male’s fantasies and fetish.
    Your job is to make the client part with his money. The member is there for a sex show.

    Strippers also work in a closed environment/ loop where they interact with clients there to fulfill sexual desire.

    It's no more or no less than what a barman observes going about his work, what type of customers are in his work environment. Or a car sales person profiling a client in his work environment. Or the waiter in a restaurant seconding guessing what customers will order off the menu.

    People with narcissist personalities tend to be more effective in roles at covert business.

    Now!! Some people are better at sniffing out bullshit than others.

    It didn’t take long for thedunlap to expose his lies that he wasn't a cam model.

    I’m sure the real cam models here have suspicions people are pretending to be models when they were not. There is at least one that posts here every day.


    Could a camgirl be a spy? Yes!! Could a bar man be a spy? Yes!!

    https://www.cia.gov/careers/opportunities/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    No. Guys worth spying on aren't stupid enough to spill their guts to some random girl on the Internet.
    Yeah maybe when they don't have a raging hard-on they aren't stupid enough to. Plus, you have to take into account that not only does dealing with people over the internet give some individuals a false sense of anonymity and secruity (hence trolling and other forms of internet harrassment), but some guys are intoxicated and/or high when they're looking at camgirls, and at that point there's no telling what will slip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCummings View Post
    Yeah maybe when they don't have a raging hard-on they aren't stupid enough to. Plus, you have to take into account that not only does dealing with people over the internet give some individuals a false sense of anonymity and secruity (hence trolling and other forms of internet harrassment), but some guys are intoxicated and/or high when they're looking at camgirls, and at that point there's no telling what will slip.

    are you talking from experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodhoundgang View Post
    are you talking from experience?

    well if i was a spy i sure wouldn't announce that on this forum, now would i?

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    Originally Posted by AngelCummings
    Yeah maybe when they don't have a raging hard-on they aren't stupid enough to. Plus, you have to take into account that not only does dealing with people over the internet give some individuals a false sense of anonymity and secruity (hence trolling and other forms of internet harrassment), but some guys are intoxicated and/or high when they're looking at camgirls, and at that point there's no telling what will slip.




    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCummings View Post
    well if i was a spy i sure wouldn't announce that on this forum, now would i?
    Interesting response.

    I wasn’t asking if you were a spy, I was asking if you had experience of some guys who were intoxicated and /or high and let something slip

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodhoundgang View Post
    Originally Posted by AngelCummings
    Yeah maybe when they don't have a raging hard-on they aren't stupid enough to. Plus, you have to take into account that not only does dealing with people over the internet give some individuals a false sense of anonymity and secruity (hence trolling and other forms of internet harrassment), but some guys are intoxicated and/or high when they're looking at camgirls, and at that point there's no telling what will slip.






    Interesting response.

    I wasn’t asking if you were a spy, I was asking if you had experience of some guys who were intoxicated and /or high and let something slip
    lol. i've never had guys tell me anything really that serious or interesting while they were high/drunk/jacking off. But I have definitely had some that have told me way more than I needed or wanted to know about their past and their personal lives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedunlap View Post
    Well there is actually a long US and Russian history of escorts/strippers working as spies. (history channel) Usually with the intent of blackmailing the client/poor soul.

    ...and Korea. I was stationed there. They are called "Juicy Girls." I am not going to get into the tactics for getting info from male soldiers..but it does exist...but that is only because when you wave pussy in a man's face, they become weak and "dumb" no matter what race.

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